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2006-06-16 09:55:50
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answer #1
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answered by topher 4
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This has been debated for two millenia.
Personally, I think not. I believe that salvation is an ongoing work, (as in Phillippians, "that this good work may be come to completion in you until the day of Christ"), not a once-and-for-all sort of thing. I know everyone else who posts here will take the exegetic (Scriptural derivation) route. I'll go with logic to be the rebel:
If we are saved once, then we are either always saved, or can lose our salvation.
If we are always saved, then we will either never sin (and hence fall) or that sin we do won't matter.
The first is impossible (except for the Grace of Christ alone), the second leads to an Albigensian heresy, the idea that it doesn't matter what you do, you're always saved. Further, if you can tell a person by the fruit they bear, then what does the terrible fruit of the person whose sins are committed with impunity foretell? Also, have you ever known any one who is without sin? For these reasons, I reject the idea of once-saved-always-saved.
Can you lose your salvation? Well, if salvation is a right relationship with God, and your relationship deteriorates or splits, then your salvation is lost. If salvation is believing on Christ, and you cease believing on Him, your salvation is lost
Let's assume instead that salvation isn't something gained once, but rather comes as the salvific process, that throughout one's life, one comes to choose Christ or reject Christ. If you neglect that process, if you do not comply with the grace given you, how does that process move forward? How do you become more Christlike? How do you allow the Spirit to move within you? But if you embrace that grace given you, if you respond with faith and let the Spirit move you through good works (which do not earn salvation, but are a compliance with the grace of Christ and with His commands), then you allow Christ to work within you.
So I'd answer no, you are not once-saved-always-saved and only obligated to go to church on Sunday. We were created for so much more and we are far too important to the Lord to be limited such.
"The Glory of God is man fully alive" - St. Iranaeus
2006-06-16 10:07:21
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answer #2
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answered by Veritatum17 6
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Everything is in your heart. If you say the words, no your not saved, but if you truely believe them, and accept Jesus in you life, then yes you are saved for life. Everything is between you and Jesus. Only He knows your true heart and can save you. And yes it is a gift. Church has nothing to do with you being saved. Just as an alcoholic can stop drinking without the aid of AA meetings, but the meetings help to encourage him, and hold him accountable, church does the same for Christians. It's not required but it is highly recommended, to keep you where you need to be, and keep your relationship growing in Christ. Accepting Christ is not the end. It is the beginning, of a very hard, bumpy jouney that is worth the trek.
2006-06-16 10:09:05
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answer #3
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answered by Anonymous
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I have been taught that once you are saved you are always saved. My father is a Baptist Minister. Be careful of some of the responses that you get. Those peolple better be careful also because they will be held accountable for misleading you.
I don't want to mislead you. I am a growing Christian and I am learning just like you are. Once you are saved, that means that you have accepted Jesus Christ as your personal Savior, you believe that he is the son of God and you know that he died on the cross for your sins, your next step is to repent (turn from your evil and wicked ways and try to live your life the way Christ lived). Christ was perfect and we know that we will never be, but our duties as Christians are to carry out God's will and to not only be hearers, but to also be doers of his word. I don't believe that it is acceptable to Christ for us to continue living life in a worldly way. If after becoming saved, you return to your evil ways, I believe that you have fallen out of fellowship with Christ (backslid) and have detoured to the broad way of destruction.
Don't confuse being saved as the same as going to church. Some people go to church just out of tradition and they could very well be the biggest devils ever. Church is trully in the heart and it is everywhere. It is good to attend church to stay in fellowship with God. As a babe in Christ, be careful and be wise. Don't put all of your faith in the preacher or in those that led you to Christ; they can't save you...only God can save you. Remember a preacher is a man and like all men he makes mistakes. So please don't throw your faith to the wind when you see someone that proclaims to be saved, do something totally against God's word. The church cannot save you...once again, only God can. I also believe that being kind and charitable will NOT get you into heaven, it will only make your stay here on earth a little more comfortable. Get you a Bible that has footnotes that helps explain the text to you.
Hope to see you in Heaven.
2006-06-16 10:35:22
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answer #4
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answered by Anonymous
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yes and no, If you believe in your heart that Jesus died and rose again. Yes you r saved. But, you must confess this. You must talk the talk and walk the walk. Being saved is not just going to church on Sunday. It is a way of life. I know we all sin and fall short. That is why Jesus died for us so that we could have a right to life and more abundtly. He knows your heart just trust him and he will direct your path and always read you Bible!
2006-06-16 10:17:15
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answer #5
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answered by Jazzy Faye 2
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For a baptist, yes once saved always saved, but that doesn't mean you go back to doing bad stuff if you were before. Just saying the words without truly meaning what you say when asking jesus into your heart doesn't do the trick.
2006-06-16 09:58:04
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answer #6
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answered by Thrasher 5
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Depends on your religion. Most protestant religions say all you have to do is believe. Then you can be as bad as you want to, so long as you keep believing in God, which of course means feeling guilty for all that bad stuff you keep doing. A few say you should repent for sin but don't go into any details as to how so I suppose you could be eating pancakes and call it repenting and that would do.
If you go Catholic you have to actually do stuff, like confession and penance. If you don't you can do it in purgatory. So either way I guess your good to go. Unless you're damned. You just don't get to know for sure.
2006-06-16 10:05:49
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answer #7
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answered by tenaciousd 6
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No one can say that they are saved forever or that the way to be saved is to be in church every Sunday..
If you have faith you are saved but that dosent mean you have to be a hypocrite either
2006-06-16 10:02:51
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answer #8
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answered by Anonymous
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you left out the part about the money. You go to church on Sunday, and you give some money to make the sin go away. Long as jesus can get a new gold candlestick, he'll look the other way.
2006-06-16 10:01:25
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answer #9
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answered by BarronVonUnderbeiht 3
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NO!!
The bible says:
Romans 10:44 For Christ is the end of the Law, so that everyone >>exercising faith may have righteousness.<<<
John 3:16 “For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, in order that everyone >exercising faith< in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent forth his Son into the world, not for him to judge the world, but for the world to be saved through him. 18 He that >exercises faith< in him is not to be judged. He that does not exercise faith has been judged already, because he has not exercised faith in the name of the only-begotten Son of God.
Jude 5, RS: “I desire to remind you, though you were once for all fully informed, that he who saved a people out of the land of Egypt, afterward destroyed those who did not believe.” (Italics added.)
Matt. 24:13, RS: “He who endures to the end will be saved.” (So a person’s final salvation is not determined at the moment that he begins to put faith in Jesus.)
Phil. 2:12, RS: “As you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling.” (This was addressed to “the saints,” or holy ones, at Philippi, as stated in Philippians 1:1. Paul urged them not to be overly confident but to realize that their final salvation was not yet assured.)
Heb. 10:26, 27, RS: “If we sin deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a fearful prospect of judgment, and a fury of fire which will consume the adversaries.” (Thus the Bible does not go along with the idea that no matter what sins a person may commit after he is “saved” he will not lose his salvation. It encourages faithfulness. See also Hebrews 6:4-6, where it is shown that even a person anointed with holy spirit can lose his hope of salvation.)
So you see, once saved allways saved is not a bible teaching!
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loj
2006-06-16 10:09:22
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answer #10
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answered by ? 5
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Being saved has nothing to do with going to church. To be saved is to consciencly turn your life over to God, repent your sins(repent here means to turn away), You must first believe, then follow God with all your heart(heart in this sense means soul) Being saved is not an act, it is a loving relationship with God. The question at this point does someone have a said faith or is it a real faith. This is not my call to make, but I would not want to take that chance. Tomorrow is never guaranteed. Read Romans 10:9-10
The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,"[d] that is, the word of faith we are proclaiming: 9That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 11As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame."[e] 12For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."[f]
2006-06-16 10:02:30
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answer #11
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answered by brokentogether 3
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