What else is allegory in the Bible, Noah's Ark, Resurrection of Jesus? Second coming?

Question

Following up, the debate from 500 years ago was on heliocentric universe, now 2006 its a debate from 1920 on evolution, with evolution clearly winning and the future is obvious: adam and eve will be seen as alegory.

So my question here is what will be the debate in 500 years. Will my descendents be saying "the jesus resurrection is allegorical"; and questions like "What happens to Fundamentalist Christianity when it is proven that the jesus resurrection goes against the laws of science".

The thing regarding second coming, hasn't this been a debate since 70CE regarding the temple of jerussalem falling?

Answer 1

Man, emmie is nuts.

Answer 2

First of all, evolution has never been proven. So far, it's still just a theory. That's why it's always referred to as the THEORY of evolution.

Second, science is not perfect either. You seem to be implying that religion was the only institution that has ever rejected the idea that the sun is the center of the solar system.

But for thousands of years, science thought so too!

Third, Galileo theorized that the sun was not only the center of our solar system, but also the center of the universe. We now know that this was not correct.

So, if the Church had blindly accepted Galileo's theory at face value -- rather than demanding that he prove his theory before teaching it, which was really the issue between him and the Church -- then the Church would have accepted a teaching that was WRONG.

Fourth, the Catholic Church was very open to Galileo's ideas. It only had a problem with the fact that Galileo was going around teaching his ideas as FACT before he had actually proven them!

All the Church wanted Galileo was to prove his ideas -- something that champions of science such as yourself surely would appreciate and respect.

There's a LOT of misinformation about Galileo and the Church. Most people see it in simple terms: Galileo discovered something that the Church blindlly rejected.

Well, it was not that simple. The Church-Galileo saga was MUCH more complicated than that.

Answer 3

I'll tackle the "second coming" prophecy.

Although Jesus won't be coming down from the sky, gathering his "children" up and taking them to heaven, there will be an ascension taking place some time around 2012. Nor will the earth be destroyed. The Mayan calendar ends 12/21/12. Many people believed it was the end of the world, but properly translated it means a change. This ascension will move some souls into fourth density. And any empath like myself who can feel the vibrational changes of earth's energies (explaining the ferocious hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunami, etc) know that earth, herself, is evolving, like some of our souls are doing. And by that I mean, our souls vibrations are accelerating which leaves us with dizzy spells, fatigue, lack of an appetite, overly emotional, alot of suppressed memories surfacing, etc. It's our souls way of getting us ready for it. And hasn't the day turned into a 16 hour day instead of a 24 hour day. Time, itself, is speeding up. It's a personal process, some people may not be experiencing any of it, some might just beginning, and some know exactly what I'm talking about.

Answer 4

There have been scholars since the Enlightenment saying the resurrection is not physical fact, and plenty of Christian scholars today who don't affirm that Jesus did in fact bodily rise from the dead. As for the "second coming," yes that has been a centuries long debate.
I don't think of those things as allegory, but myth, in that they speak to the origin of things, and nature of things.
It really wasn't until the beginnings of fundamentalism in the early 20th century that Christians began to move to a literal and inerrant view of the Bible. Up until then the predominant views were an intelligent understand of the Bible as a book of faith, and people had no thought of making it a science text.

Answer 5

None of these things you are speaking of are allegories. Noah's Ark, Adam and Eve, the resurrection of Jesus, all these things actually happened.

My personal opinion is, in 500 years, people will no longer be debating anything about the bible, since by that time, God willing, Jesus will be ruling and reigning. That will pretty much wrap up the debates.

Answer 6

be careful now... the be conscious "delusion" would not recommend "completely made up". delusion is an historic mechanism of speaking a significant tale. All myths originate someplace. the great Flood, as an celebration... all historic cultures have some large flood tale, just about like a fuzzy memory of a few thing that got here about lengthy in the previous human beings wrote stuff down.

Answer 7

A lot of scholars will say that the creation myth and genesis are all allegory and metaphor, especially with the discoveries of the big bang theory and evolution, not just of humans but also of the planet.

Answer 8

Christians who embrace the idea of an allegorical bible generally hold that allegory is only present in the old testament (and of course in Jesus's parables).

Answer 9

Julia, I have a question for you. You are saying that the church wanted Galileo to prove his teachings before he brought them forth as truth. Why is it that they church doesn't have to prove their teachings as true before they force them on everyone, the catholic church isn't the all knowing. It has been proven through history that they change their teachings to suit the current scientific evidence once they cannot deny it anymore.

Don't be so hypocritical, if your going to call out science as false, then why won't you call out religion too.

Answer 10

An allegory referring to Being needs overcoming Deficit needs.
Or the mind's needs over the flesh.
To be human is to always to struggle with this.

Answer 11

Emmanuel Swedenborg argued that the Second Coming has already occured, but that most Christians missed it because they were/are too blindly literal in their approach.