Adam and Eve=2
Adam new Eve ( guess what that was) and made 2 Sons.
Cain and Abel. Cain Kills Abel . 4-1=3
Cain goes away . So here is where my confusion is. On on side of the earth we have Adam and Eve. On other is Cain. WHo did Cain had to screw to Create a city of Enoh?
2006-06-16
06:53:54
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"Lilith. The bible leaves her out, but, Lilith was the first woman made."
It does nto say anywhere in the bible but they are references to it. Tough got killed Lilith before he create Eve. God was so msart he knew 2 females could not share the same kitchen.
2006-06-16
06:58:09 ·
update #1
I see some ppl still calculating from 4. Have you noticed that after Cain cancel his Brother GOd punished him and send away.
I understand for Cristians 2 ppl in 500 years before NOah could simply create millions just by imitating bunnies but the Question is for Cain.
He went alone , Who did Cain had to screw to start his own City and name it after his Son?
2006-06-16
07:00:55 ·
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TO zharantan
UNlike some i read the whole story many times but you did not manage to read the question even once.
Before Adam and Eve create zilions of kids and girl they create only 2 Cain and Abel. Read Geneses before making any comments. And i don't care who screwed adam and others duaghters of him. I care to find out Who did screw Cain since he was punished by god and had to leave teh family.
2006-06-16
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Lets try to clear teh Question again. I don't care how many kids were from adam and Eve. The question is how did Cain got hsi generation. There were only 2 kids at first Cain and Abel, Period. THat's what geneses writes.
Then cain leaves since he is punished. He leaves alone because there are no more kids yet. If you look at the story other kids came after Cain. Geneses tells us the full story who begat who and so on and so boring. But now Ppl invent thier own ideas what was, who create who and so on. I am not looking for some one interpretation of would be nice to have. If we concider that Bible is the word of GOD ( many Cristians do) then i only interesting in calculation where Cain start his own City By him Self. And , while some Cristians trying to tell me Cain probably was married before he was punished by GOD , please don't ivent your stories, we already have enough of them. Read what it says and based on what it says i would like to know how to Produce Generations from 1 Men.
2006-06-16
09:57:52 ·
update #4
Many skeptics have claimed that, for Cain to find a wife, there must have been other "races" of people on the earth who were not descendants of Adam and Eve. To many people, this question is a stumbling block to accepting the creation account in Genesis and its record of only one man and woman at the beginning of history -- a record on which many Old and New Testament doctrines depend.
Defenders of the gospel must be able to show that all human beings are descendants of one man and one woman (Adam and Eve) -- as only those people who are descendants of Adam and Eve can be saved. Thus, believers need to be able to account for Cain's wife and show clearly that she was a descendant of Adam and Eve. (The relevant Bible passage is Genesis 4:1-5:5.)
Thus, there was only one man at the beginning -- made from the dust of the earth (Genesis 2:7).
This also means that Cain's wife was a descendant of Adam. She could not have come from another "race" of people and must be one of Adam's descendants.
In Genesis 3:20 we read, "And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living."[10] In other words, all people are descendants of Adam and Eve -- she was the first woman.
Eve was made from Adam's rib (or side) (Genesis 2:21-24) -- this was a unique event. Jesus (Matthew 19:4-6) and Paul (Ephesians 5:31) use this historical and one-time event as the doctrinal foundation for the marriage of one man to one woman.
Also, in Genesis 2:20, we are told that when Adam looked at the animals, he could not find a mate -- there was no one of his kind.
All this makes it obvious that there was only one woman, Adam's wife, at the beginning. There were never any other women around who were not Eve's descendants.
If Christians cannot defend that all humans (including Cain's wife) can trace their ancestry ultimately to Adam and Eve, then how can they understand and explain the gospel? How can they justify sending missionaries to every tribe and nation? Therefore, one needs to be able to answer the question about Cain's wife, to illustrate that Christians can defend the gospel and all that it teaches.
Cain's Brothers and Sisters
Cain was the first child of Adam and Eve recorded in Scripture (Genesis 4:1). His brothers, Abel (Genesis 4:2) and Seth (Genesis 4:25), were part of the first generation of children ever born on this earth.
Even though only these three males are mentioned by name, Adam and Eve had other children. In Genesis 5:4 a statement sums up the life of Adam and Eve -- "And the days of Adam after he had fathered Seth were eight hundred years. And he fathered sons and daughters." This does not say when they were born. Many could have been born in the 130 years (Genesis 5:3) before Seth was born.
During their lives, Adam and Eve had a number of male and female children. The Jewish historian Josephus wrote that, "The number of Adam's children, as says the old tradition, was thirty-three sons and twenty-three daughters."[11]
The Bible does not tell us how many children were born to Adam and Eve. However, considering their long life spans (Adam lived for 930 years -- Genesis 5:5), it would seem reasonable to suggest there were many! Remember, They were commanded to "Be fruitful, and multiply" (Genesis 1:28).
The Wife
If we now work totally from Scripture, without any personal prejudices or other extra-biblical ideas, then back at the beginning, when there was only the first generation, brothers would have had to have married sisters or there would be no more generations!
We are not told when Cain married or any of the details of other marriages and children, but we can say for certain that some brothers had to marry their sisters at the beginning of human history.
Many people immediately reject the conclusion that Adam and Eve's sons and daughters married each other by appealing to the law against brother-sister intermarriage. Some say that you cannot marry your relation. Actually, if you don't marry your relation, you don't marry a human! A wife is related to her husband even before they marry because all people are descendants of Adam and Eve — all are of "one blood." The law forbidding marriage between close relatives was not given until the time of Moses (Leviticus 18-20). Provided marriage was one man to one woman for life (based on Genesis 1 and 2), there was no disobedience to God's law originally when close relatives (even brothers and sisters) married each other.
Remember that Abraham married his half-sister (Genesis 20:12). God blessed this union to produce the Hebrew people through Isaac and Jacob. It was not until some 400 years later that God gave Moses laws that forbade such marriages.
Today, brothers and sisters (and half-brothers and half-sisters, etc.) are not permitted by law to marry because their children have an unacceptably high risk of being deformed. The more closely the parents are related, the more likely it is that any offspring will be deformed.
There is a very sound genetic reason for such laws that is easy to understand. Every person has two sets of genes, there being some 130,000 pairs that specify how a person is put together and functions. Each person inherits one gene of each pair from each parent. Unfortunately, genes today contain many mistakes (because of sin and the Curse), and these mistakes show up in a variety of ways. For instance, some people let their hair grow over their ears to hide the fact that one ear is lower than the other -- or perhaps someone's nose is not quite in the middle of his or her face, or someone's jaw is a little out of shape -- and so on. Let's face it, the main reason we call each other normal is because of our common agreement to do so!
The more distantly related parents are, the more likely it is that they will have different mistakes in their genes. Children, inheriting one set of genes from each parent, are likely to end up with pairs of genes containing a maximum of one bad gene in each pair. The good gene tends to override the bad so that a deformity (a serious one, anyway) does not occur. Instead of having totally deformed ears, for instance, a person may only have crooked ones! (Overall, though, the human race is slowly degenerating as mistakes accumulate, generation after generation.)
However, the more closely related two people are, the more likely it is that they will have similar mistakes in their genes, since these have been inherited from the same parents. Therefore, a brother and a sister are more likely to have similar mistakes in their genes. A child of a union between such siblings could inherit the same bad gene on the same gene pair from both, resulting in two bad copies of the gene and serious defects.
Adam and Eve did not have accumulated genetic mistakes. When the first two people were created, they were physically perfect. Everything God made was "very good" (Genesis 1:31), so their genes were perfect -- no mistakes! But, when sin entered the world (because of Adam -- Genesis 3:6, Romans 5:12), God cursed the world so that the perfect creation then began to degenerate, that is, suffer death and decay (Romans 8:22). Over thousands of years, this degeneration has produced all sorts of genetic mistakes in living things.
Cain was in the first generation of children ever born. He (as well as his brothers and sisters) would have have received virtually no imperfect genes from Adam or Eve, since the effects of sin and the Curse would have been minimal to start with (it takes time for these copying errors to accumulate). In that situation, brother and sister could have married with God's approval, without any potential to produce deformed offspring.
By the time of Moses (a few thousand years later), degenerative mistakes would have built up in the human race to such an extent that it was necessary for God to forbid brother-sister (and close relative) marriage (Leviticus 18-20).[12] (Also, there were plenty of people on the earth by then, and there was no reason for close relations to marry.)
Some claim that the passage in Genesis 4:16-17 means that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife. Thus, they can conclude there must have been another race of people on the earth, who were not descendants of Adam, who produced Cain's wife.
And Cain went out from the presence of the Lord, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bore Enoch: and he built a city, and he called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
From what has been stated previously, it is clear that all humans, Cain's wife included, are descendants of Adam. However, this passage does not say that Cain went to the land of Nod and found a wife. John Calvin, commenting on these verses, states:
From the context we may gather that Cain, before he slew his brother, had married a wife; otherwise Moses would now have related something respecting his marriage.[13]
Cain was married before he went to the land of Nod. He didn't find a wife there, but "knew" (had sexual relations with) his wife.[14]
Others have argued that because Cain built a "city" in the land of Nod, there must have been a lot of people there. However, the Hebrew word translated as "city" need not mean what we might imagine from the connotations of "city" today. The word meant a "walled town" or a protected encampment.[15] Even a hundred people would be plenty for such a "city." Nevertheless, there could have been many descendants of Adam on the earth by the time of Abel's death (see below).
2006-06-16 07:01:46
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answered by Iamnotarobot (former believer) 6
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The Bible says, if you read Genesis that Adam and Eve had many children; not just Cain and Abel, so back in Biblical times, people were so close to being perfect that they married people in their own family. That is what Cain did. Adam and Eve had many many children and Cain married one of his sisters. Adam and Eve also had a child named Seth which is mentioned in Genesis. Adam lived to over 900 years (people were close to being perfect then and did not get sick or age like we do now. He had many children.
Mathematically speaking, I would say this:
People have 2 parents, 4 grandparents, 8 great grandparents, etc. So that is 2 to the first power parents, 2 squared grandparents, 2 cubed great grandparents. If you carry this progression out to the time of Adam and Eve, you would have about 2 to the seventy-fifth power relatives which is more people than ever lived on earth, so you and I are related to Adam and Eve too. Adam and Eve lived about 6,000 years ago which is according to the way days are calculated. When God created things in one day, it is not a literal day but is actually about 7,000 years per day. This is all according to Bible chronology which is a long and difficult thing to explain.
So Adam and Eve had Cain, Abel, and Seth, and many other children, and Cain and Seth both married one of their many sisters and being close to perfection, they didn't have any birth defects with their children like would happen if we did that now.
2006-06-16 07:09:43
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answered by fingerpicknboys 3
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Adam and Eve lived and bore children for hundreds of years. Over several hundred years some of these off-spring migrated to other parts of the earth, as God intended. Otherwise, how could the "earth" be popuated? Just like Adam and Eve, their children also lived for hundreds of years, all procreating within families arriving from Adam and Eve and each other. The Bible talks about Cain and Enoh because of the significance of their story. However, several hundred years can produced a lot of people, some likely being off-spring of both Cain and Enoh.
2006-06-16 07:17:26
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answered by Spirit_Rider 1
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Cain and Abel were the only two kids of Adam and Eve mentioned in the Bible. And people used to live a really long time back then, so lets say Eve, and no birth control, could reproduce for 500 years. Lets just say one baby every, I dont know, 2 years, thats 250 children she herself could have had.
2006-06-16 06:57:19
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answered by sweetie_baby 6
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If two people in each generation created two children each, then guess you'd have 2^200 -2^197 within 5000 years as the population of the world,(assuming that the generation gap is 25 years and people live to an average age beyond 60. Check it out, the number is huge, Humanity has been around for mayhaps 2million years.
The one Q that has baffled is where did the spouses for Adam & Eve's children come from?
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2006-06-17 18:29:38
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answered by Starreply 6
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Adam and Eve had a lot of kids, not just Cain and Abel. Cain and Abel are named because they're the victim and perpetrator of the world's first murder. Genesis never said they were Adam & Eve's only children, so I guess their other kids didn't kill anyone.
Also, there is that Lilith story, with her running around out there. She could have had kids with Adam before she left him too.
2006-06-16 07:06:58
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answered by Anonymous
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If you read the whole story, the Bible mentions that Adam and Eve had hundreds of children, not just two. Get the whole story before you start stating partial truth as complete fact. And many of those children may have been born inside the garden of Eden. Cain and Able may have even been grandchildren. And where do you get the absurd notion that Cain crossed the ocean to get to the other side of the world. I don't see that written in Genesis. Where do you get your story? Cuz it ain't from Genesis!
2006-06-16 07:00:39
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answered by zharantan 5
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Adam and Eve had more children - Seth, a son, was named in the Bible, and it is presumed that they also had daughters who did not merit mention in Genesis (as was often the case in Biblical times - women not as "important").
It doesn't take a genius to figure out, though, that if all humankind is literally descended from Adam and Eve, then the third generation HAD to be the product of incest - perhaps that is the "original sin" that has produced sinful, imperfect people ever since?
2006-06-16 06:59:36
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answered by jimbob 6
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Doesn't quite add up does it. There's also the mention of when the Son's of God came here and created the Nepahlim with the women of earth, but you are correct there is no mention of Cain, and who he came across to create/procreate anything.
2006-06-16 07:31:52
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answered by buttercup 5
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in their time they would live for a very long time so sisters and brothers would get together and make kids
so he probably got with one of his sisters
cain and abel were not the only kids from adam and eve
2006-06-16 06:59:37
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answered by hot cheetos 2
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After the flood there were 4 couples. Population growth charts indicate that we are right where we should be for 8 people to start this whole thing about 4,000 years ago. No argument to be had.
2006-06-16 06:56:26
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answered by Anonymous
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