Was it by design or Mistakes? Please read and think before answering!?

Question

Before GOD creates anything he already knows in advance what it would be and how it would work.
1.God creates Angels and they rebel. He create all the angels him self. Angels can’t reproduce so each one of them was designed by GOD. It does not matter why they rebel. One thing is clear there was a flaw or it was designed that way. And since Angels did not inherit sins like humans did than it will be logical to think they all were design by using the same approach. Tough they all were different.
2.God creates ADAM and Eve. Adam deceives the GOD. Regardless of free will is it a mistake by design or he was purposely designed that way?
3.The only ppl God spared from the destruction of Sodom were Lot and his daughters. Genesis 19:33-36 goes on to say how the daughters got Lot drunk and committed incest with him. Was it by design or GOD did not know who he spared?

4.So the Lord said, 'I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them' " (Genesis 6:5-7).

“For I am sorry that I have made them”? AM I missing something?

God destroys the earth literally and saves only Noah and his family. “6:9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. “ Notice Noah was perfect according to GOD. And we are all coming from Noah. WE still all with sins and corrupted according to God. Did GOD know we will be this way when he saved only Noah? God is sorry for doing it? 8:21 And the LORD smelled a sweet savour; and the LORD said in his heart, I will not again curse the ground any more for man's sake; for the imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth ; neither will I again smite any more every thing living, as I have done.

5.Finally. About a time GOD realizes that his creations on his own don’t work that well. And he chooses Human female to produce the only pure of sins man. Human female and GOD? All his other creations were not that good that he was needed female?


In this Question I don’t need any one explanation why Angel’s did rebel, why Lot got corrupted, Noah did not do a good job after all and so on. There are 1000 explanations by every denomination of Christians. And they all can’t be right. But the result of it is the fact for them. The question is if it WAS done by ***Design*** or there were "Mistakes"

Some one just answered "God doesn't make mistakes" weel it seems they aplying that all that happened by his own imagination and design. How cruel of a design

It so amazing that ppl always go for the same lame argument "What He did was give what He created "free will.""
Excuse me, there was no free will before us, he is the one who created and said i give it to you the way i design it.
Before you answer any question just think for a second that when god create Adam and Eve he already knew that today you will asnwer this way. Way before you even existed. SO much for FREE WILL . You could this you could that, but the only thing you could do as what GOD originally assigned to you. But free will is ncie specialy when we don't udnerstand wtf that is. Just draw the line and they say Line had a free will, it could go other way but sudently it went the way i draw.

May be my QUestion is too long but it seems that no1 reads it or understand ( does not suprise me) Therefore GOD exists

"Question: Do you have children? If so, are they mistakes? Did one please you and the other rebel on every count? Why did you have babies anyway?

Your logic assumes that free will is not in place
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Well yes i do have childrens but unlike your free will and GODs knolwege i have no idea what happenes when i do till its done. He did know before you even could come up with Free will idea. See the point?
He knew, i don't.
Free will like everything else was created by him. Was free will a mistake? So armagedon is comming then we all be gone from this planet either to heaven either to Hell? Then no more free will? Temporary effect? Therefore GOD exists.

Answer 1

In a nutshell...
1. Angels don't get jealous...they weren't made with human characteristics and emotions. They were made "godlier" in the sense that they only love. Because what is God? Love. Therefore, rebelling, falling angels don't exist. They were created to protect humans.
2. The whole Adam and Eve story is a parable. God created us in spirit form first, so we weren't here on earth, we were in "heaven". He gave us the choice to incarnate without the knowledge of God. When "Eve" decided to "eat the forbidden fruit" it was the choice to come here and experience everything from the good and bad.
3. The God of the old testament and the God of the new testament are two different Gods. Which I don't believe in either of them.

Answer 2

Question: Do you have children? If so, are they mistakes? Did one please you and the other rebel on every count? Why did you have babies anyway?

Your logic assumes that free will is not in place

1. Not all the Angels rebelled against God - just a set number. Free will in play.., as to why God created them is non of your concern but his alone

2. God created man with a free will. He was not destined to sin, nor to be cursed. God knows the outcome of what a man will do no matter what direction he takes. Unless God intervenes and causes a man to veer one way or another for a specific purpose - the man has absolute ability to decide what he will do.

3. READ THE BOOK! The daughters of Lott assumed it was the end of all life - thats how catastrophic the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah was. It doesn't matter how primitive you think people were in that time.., they knew (in their minds) that as the last of mankind (so they assumed) that humanity must continue anbd would have to be through their father's seed seeing no man was available to them (the son-in-laws stayed behind in Sodom)....,

The daughters also knew their father would object to such a thing as reproducing with his own daughters - THAT is why the daughters made him drunk to avoid any objections. As for incest - the Law was not created yet.., while it was deemed a sin, there was nothing to make it iron clad - UNTIL the law became a written code.

This still did not allow for every wrongful act as being okay. Evil was still evil and held according to that standard. The reason these daughters copulated were not in an evil intent.

Non the less - now we have a Law which identifies sin. Excuses don't cut it.

Answer 3

Your question is another variant of, "If there is a loving God, then why does...?" It assumes a moral law. After all, who are you to decide what is moral, or cruel, and what is not? You are obviously appealing to a standardized moral law. Otherwise you could not make any case. In order to judge the morality of God's design, you must understand two things: 1) Everything about the plan, and 2) The reasons for it. Both of which you cannot understand. Beyond that, who dictates the moral law? If there is a standardized moral law there must of necessity be a moral lawgiver. This lawgiver must be higher than anything on this earth (otherwise it would be unqualified), uncaused or created, and innately good. Logic demands it. Because of this, God is good. God knows everything about His plan, and every reason why it is occurring. Because you do not know this doesn't make it wrong. Unfortunately, logic demands that God is true, and every man a liar.

Answer 4

This may be sacrilegious, but I believe the bible, and every version we believe to be the scripture, was written by man. Don't get me wrong, I do believe in God, but I do not believe in words in a book that some man thousands of years ago could have written. I believe that our goal is to be the best human beings we can be and God will be happy with us. If everyone had the same goal, the world would be a much better place.

Answer 5

the whole concept of god is a mistake..there are too many inconsistency's and beliefs that contradict every bit of scientific fact we have discovered. I went to church for 15 years, i have studied religions in general as a purely academic interest since I lost all faith in god, and the last ones that seemed to have a good thing going were the old pagan religions that believed in respecting nature and humanity and simply living well and helping yourself rather than relying on some god to do everything for you.

Answer 6

God doesn't make mistakes.

What God wants is for his Creation to come to him with love. He wants us to love him as he loves us.

Free will given to us, God knew what would happen, but also knows the ultimate end of this time. Everything happens for a reason. We may not know the reason or understand, but in the end, the ultimate reasoning works out perfectly as planned by God. We do not have the capacity to understand all things of God, we just have to have faith that God is in Control, because he is.

Answer 7

1. God doesn't make mistakes. 2. Our mistakes are the results of free-will and sin. God created us with the right to choose because it would not be satisfying to have a bunch of robot-like worship that wasn't genuinely from choice.
So, it was His designed free will and our mistakes.

Answer 8

God did not create something that was flawed. What He did was give what He created "free will." He wants us, angels included, to accept Him at will. Otherwise, He would have robots automatically doing His bidding without thought or choice. Would you want someone to love you because you're "paying them" to do so, or would you perfer that they loved you from the heart? With "free will" comes the danger of what happened to Lucifer and the angels who followed him. The seed of iniquity. Iniquity is an evil that we, ourselves, permit to root inside our psycho. It tells us to indulge in sinful things and, by choice, we either do so our we ignore it. Yes, iniquity is a flaw but it's "our" flaw, not God's.

Answer 9

I think you're wandering a little off-track.

The "flaw" you're referring to IS free will.

And it was given to the angels and to humans as part of God's *design*.

Why? His essence is love, and his highest desire for us (as we worship him) is to love and be loved.

You cannot love without free will. Love has to be a choice; otherwise you are just an extension of the person controlling you. If God had not given angels and people free will, He would have simply been "loving himself" through us... not real love at all.

You're really off-track by suggesting "design" means that God was making men who would either always be good or would eventually fail.

Man was not designed to always do good, nor was he designed to eventually fail; he was designed, rather, to have the CHOICE to do either. That's an important distinction you seem to be failing to make.

God designed for the possibility of evil, as an unfortunate but necessary byproduct of giving man the capacity to love. He did not design nor desire evil to occur.

Your third point is very confusing. God knew exactly who he spared from Sodom; he sent angels to them; while Lot was at heart a "good man" apparently, his being saved was not due to him but due to God's grace and Abraham's intervention.

You seem to be insinuating that God did something wrong by deciding to save people who could still sin so grievously. But obviously their time in Sodom had still corrupted them to some degree... just as we (including you and I) are ALL corrupt to some degree.

Which leads to another interesting gem to mull over: God's "design" since the Fall has been to save not perfect but *corrupt* people, providing them righteousness not because they deserve it but because of His grace.

That's a good thing, I think.

Answer 10

Angels apparently were made to choose who they would serve. Even though God knew who each would choose He still created them.
God created man to make choices also. God knew what would happen and still made Adam.
God knew what Lots daughters would ultimately do but still he spared their lives.
GOd was not sorry but sorrowed.
I was sorrowed that my father died but I am sorry that He died because HE was in great pain.
God did not make mistake but kept His plan even though we would flaw it.