could we be living in a modern Biblical Babylon ?

Question

I think so, ..as we see holocaust of the innocents(abortion),homosexual lifestyles being accepted,immoral behavors condoned,plague of profanity,rich getting richer while poor getting poorer,lack of spirituality,abundance of materialism,etc etc.

Answer 1

Rev.17:1-6, 1014[This is the world that Satan is in From Eden, most especially after the flood. # 1 to # 5 had fallen when Jesus was crucified and ascended in Rome #6, John was on Patmos to write the book of Revelations in Rome #6, the world would get the Word of truth for the last days and it would have to be over 300 years old, KJV 1611 + 303 = 1914 and this Word is an excepted translation to the second coming of christ to end the 8th for Satan as he is cast out of heaven after #7, he has a short time in the 8th Rev.12:7-12]; Matt.24:3,7,14,15,22,36[Jesus tells us about the end of this world and only God knows the day and the hour];
The bible gives 6,130 yers after Eden and Satan faces Rev.20:1-6; The 1000 year reign of Jesus. Eph.3:21; the world of Jesus never ends.

Rev.18:1-6; Make sure not to be a part of Babylon.

Heb.2:9,14,16; John 17:3; 1 John 2:22; With these scripture, one will be no part of any antichrist.

Matt.22:37-40; The great commandment as Jesus gives. Rom.13:8-10; 14:9-12;

Avoid 2 Tim.3:1-7; for next Gal.5:19-22[the fruits of the spirit]; Take up your cross and follow Jesus and Identify those that do not as Matt.10:34-38; They will let you know.

You may think you are in Babylon. That is a mass of confused persons.

THESE TWO WEMON ARE OF OLDEST PROPHECY Gen3:15;

Rev.17:1-6[Satan's woman Babylon]; Rev.21:1-5,9,10[The lamb has a Bride]; Gal.4:26[new Jerusalem is the mother of us all]; Rev.3:12[Heb.12:22-24[new Jerusalem];

Answer 2

I agree with you, that it is a very good likelyhood that we are living in what some may call the Last Days. Yet no man knows the exact day or hour. But we are given some signs to watch for. Many of those signs listed in Scripture are clearly present. Sin is becoming more & more prevalent. The Earth itself is beginning to rebel in various ways. Mankind is beginning to call evil good & good evil...So the Biblical adice is to "look up for thy redemption draws near" keep youir focus on the Lord Jesus Christ

Answer 3

All those things are indeed true, but don’t forget that the core of the Babylonian empire was their false religion. Remember the Tower of Babel? Their quest was to gain entrance to heaven by their own means, apart from YHVH. The same thing can be said today of our society, e.g. new age, cults, false religions, etc and more importantly to the so called ‘church’ with it’s demonic stress on ecumenicalism; forgetting all our doctrinal differences for the sake of unity. You have the Catholics joining hands with the Baptists, the Methodists with the Unitarians, the gays with anybody, the Calvinists agreeing with (gasp) the Armenians. All with the goal of gaining heaven on their collectively agreed terms and not on the terms of the Cross and Christ. Their folly is evident to all but themselves and those who are co-conspirators by passive association. How’s your sight? 20/20 0r 20/2006?

Answer 4

We definitely are in Babylon, read Revelations.

It is more global than ever and will only get worse until Satan, the fake Messiah aka Antichrist, shows up with all the answers to the problems he has helped us to create. The worse it gets, the better he will look when he comes to 'save us' from it all.

Makes me want to puke, he is so obvious.

Answer 5

Haven't these things always been around? Doesn't every generation think its generation is the worst? Also, why name abortion? what about the innocent children being killed by American guns and bombs? What about the millions of children dying of starvation?
As for acceptance of homosexuality, people said the same thing about women voting, desegregation, blah blah blah.

Answer 6

Babylon that city of seven hills is the vatican. The first beast is the succesion of popes. Rome was sacked by Napolean's general in 1798.

The second beast that causes all to worship and follow the first beast is again the succession of popes. The Vatican became an independent church state again in 1929 when Mussolini signed the "Lateran Accord" with them.

"The Roman question tonight was a thing of the past, and the Vatican was at peace with Italy... In affixing the autographs to the memorable document healing the wound of many years, extreme cordiality was displayed on both sides" -The San Francisco Chronicle. Feb. 11, 1929

Rev 13:3, "And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast."

Why does He (the second beast) not kill 50,000,000+ like the first beast??? prophecy fortold of this:
Rev 13:11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

Lambs don't kill. The "lamb" also alludes to the fact that he will claim to be Christian. Speaking as a dragon is to blaspheme and decieve. Calling or letting yourself be called " the head of the church", "Holy father" "high priest (pontifex maximus)" or the "vicar (substitute) of Christ" is blasphemy. Telling people your an angel of light when your really satan's own, is real deception.
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.

"You're wrong, the Pope is humble, takes a vow of poverty, loves the poor and spreads the gosple of Christ", some will say.

They're wrong. The pope demonstrates false piety by claiming to be humble and at the same time claiming to be your "Holy Father" and allowing millions to worship him up close and at a distance.
The pope live in a palace, is chauffer driven in various high end automobiles, flies around the world in a private jet and eats meals fit for royalty.
The pope doesn't love the poor, when to support his lifestyle, he is willing to take BILLIONS of dollars from them worldwide.
The pope doesn't preach the gospel of Christ; but, his own Gospel of Grace and salvation by works (penance, tithes, sacrements, Mary and idol worship etc).

Most other "churches" have joined themselves in ecumenical error to the beast. Making themselves the harlots daughters.
Rev 17:5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
(Rev 17:6) And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
(Rev 17:7) And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
(Rev 17:8) The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
(Rev 17:9) And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

ROME is the city of seven hills (mountains). The first papal beast (538-1798) killed 50,000,000 plus true Christian martyrs.

The beast that was (538-1798) and is not shall ascend (1929-present) is that same papal beast.

"they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life"...wonder means admire... which most so called Christians, Muslims, Jews and in fact all the world (except the elect...whose names are written in the book of life)

(2Th 2:9) Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
(2Th 2:10) And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
(2Th 2:11) And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

It is our duty as Christians to flee from the Harlot of Rome...even though all the rest of the world will not!!! (every head of state attended John Paul's funeral including 3 of our US..presidents, two Bushs and Clinton...first time a sitting US pres. has ever done it)

(Rev 18:3) For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
(Rev 18:4) And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.
(Rev 18:5) For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities.

Please, research this for yourself and know the truth!!!
The papal beasts fulfill EVERY requirement in the scriptures!!!
This is what fueled the Protestant Reformation and until recent times was preached in all the protestant churchs.
No one has every said (scripturally) why they don't consider the papacy as the antichrist anymore...other than "they've changed".
They indeed have not..Vatican II confirmed the infallibility of EVERY pope and all the other heresies as well!!!

Answer 7

well of course we are....history repeating itself...because we don't learn....man still governed by greed, power, wealth, etc etc...not until man can think of others first...will it change.....

Answer 8

you're right. you can read what a modern servant of God has to say about this:

"Last summer, my wife and I had the opportunity to travel to San Diego, California, and there see Shakespeare's Macbeth at the Old Globe Theatre. We saw two performances, because our daughter Carolyn was playing the part of one of the three witches in that play. Of course, we were delighted to see her in the play and even more delighted when, at a dramatic moment, she said those famous lines: "By the pricking of my thumbs, / Something wicked this way comes" (act 4, scene 1, lines 40–41).

When I heard that, I thought how useful it would be to have an early-warning system which would tell us about the approach of evil and allow us to be prepared for it. Evil is coming toward us, whether or not we have an early-warning system.

On a later occasion, my wife and I were driving cross-country one night and were approaching a great city. As we came over the hills and saw the bright lights on the horizon, I nudged my wife awake and said, "Behold the city of Babylon!"

Of course, there is no particular city today which personifies Babylon. Babylon was, in the time of ancient Israel, a city which had become sensual, decadent, and corrupt. The principal building in the city was a temple to a false god, which we often refer to as Bel or Baal.

However, that sensuality, corruption, and decadence, and the worshipping of false gods are to be seen in many cities, great and small, scattered across the globe. As the Lord has said: "They seek not the Lord to establish his righteousness, but every man walketh in his own way, and after the image of his own god, whose image is in the likeness of the world" (D&C 1:16).

Too many of the people of the world have come to resemble the Babylon of old by walking in their own ways, and following a god "whose image is in the likeness of the world."

One of the greatest challenges we will face is to be able to live in that world but somehow not be of that world. We have to create Zion in the midst of Babylon.

"Zion in the midst of Babylon." What a luminous and incandescent phrase, as a light shining in the midst of spiritual darkness. What a concept to hold close to our hearts, as we see Babylon becoming more widespread. We see Babylon in our cities; we see Babylon in our communities; we see Babylon everywhere.

And with the encroachment of Babylon, we have to create Zion in the midst of it. We should not allow ourselves to be engulfed by the culture which surrounds us. We seldom realize the extent to which we are a product of the culture of our place and time.

During the days of ancient Israel, the people of the Lord were an island of the one true God, surrounded by an ocean of idolatry. The waves of that ocean crashed incessantly upon the shores of Israel. Despite the commandment to make no graven image and bow down before it, Israel seemingly could not help itself, influenced by the culture of the place and time. Over and over again—despite the prohibition of the Lord, despite what prophet and priest had said—Israel went seeking after strange gods and bowed down before them.

How could Israel have forgotten the Lord, who brought them out of Egypt? They were constantly pressured by what was popular in the ambience in which they lived.

What an insidious thing is this culture amidst which we live. It permeates our environment, and we think we are being reasonable and logical when, all too often, we have been molded by the ethos, what the Germans call the zeitgeist, or the culture of our place and time.

Because my wife and I have had the opportunity to live in 10 different countries, we have seen the effect of the ethos on behavior. Customs which are perfectly acceptable in one culture are viewed as unacceptable in another; language which is polite in some places is viewed as abhorrent in others. People in every culture move within a cocoon of self-satisfied self-deception, fully convinced that the way they see things is the way things really are.

Our culture tends to determine what foods we like, how we dress, what constitutes polite behavior, what sports we should follow, what our taste in music should be, the importance of education, and our attitudes toward honesty. It also influences men as to the importance of recreation or religion, influences women about the priority of career or childbearing, and has a powerful effect on how we approach procreation and moral issues. All too often, we are like puppets on a string, as our culture determines what is "cool."

There is, of course, a zeitgeist to which we should pay attention, and that is the ethos of the Lord, the culture of the people of God. As Peter states it, "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light" (1 Peter 2:9).

It is the ethos of those who keep the Lord's commandments, walk in His ways, and "live by every word that proceedeth forth from the mouth of God" (D&C 84:44). If that makes us peculiar, so be it.

My involvement with the building of the Manhattan temple gave me the opportunity to be in the temple quite often prior to the dedication. It was wonderful to sit in the celestial room and be there in perfect silence, without a single sound to be heard coming from the busy New York streets outside. How was it possible that the temple could be so reverently silent when the hustle and bustle of the metropolis was just a few yards away?

The answer was in the construction of the temple. The temple was built within the walls of an existing building, and the inner walls of the temple were connected to the outer walls at only a very few junction points. That is how the temple (Zion) limited the effects of Babylon, or the world outside.

There may be a lesson here for us. We can create the real Zion among us by limiting the extent to which Babylon will influence our lives.

When, about 600 years B.C., Nebuchadnezzar came from Babylon and conquered Judah, he carried away the people of the Lord. Nebuchadnezzar selected some of the young men for special education and training.

Among them were Daniel, Hananiah, Mishael, and Azariah. They were to be the favored ones among the young people brought to Babylon. The king's servant instructed them that they were to eat of the king's meat and drink of the king's wine.

Let us clearly understand the pressures that the four young men were under. They had been carried away as captives by a conquering power and were in the household of a king who held the power of life or death over them. And yet Daniel and his brothers refused to do that which they believed to be wrong, however much the Babylonian culture believed it to be right. And for that fidelity and courage, the Lord blessed them and "gave them knowledge and skill in all learning and wisdom" (Daniel 1:17).

Seduced by our culture, we often hardly recognize our idolatry, as our strings are pulled by that which is popular in the Babylonian world. Indeed, as the poet Wordsworth said: "The world is too much with us" ("The World Is Too Much with Us; Late and Soon," in The Complete Poetical Works of William Wordsworth [1924], 353).

In his first epistle, John writes:

"I have written unto you . . . because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

"Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world" (1 John 2:14–15).

We do not need to adopt the standards, the mores, and the morals of Babylon. We can create Zion in the midst of Babylon. We can have our own standards for music and literature and dance and film and language. We can have our own standards for dress and deportment, for politeness and respect. We can live in accordance with the Lord's moral laws. We can limit how much of Babylon we allow into our homes by the media of communication.

We can live as a Zion people, if we wish to. Will it be hard? Of course it will, for the waves of Babylonian culture crash incessantly against our shores. Will it take courage? Of course it will.

We have always been entranced by tales of courage of those who faced fearsome odds and overcame. Courage is the basis and foundation for all of our other virtues; the lack of courage diminishes every other virtue that we have. If we are to have Zion in the midst of Babylon, we will need courage.

Have you ever imagined that, when it came to the test, you would perform some act of bravery? I know I did, as a boy. I imagined that someone was in peril and that, at the risk of my own life, I saved him. Or in some dangerous confrontation with a fearsome opponent, I had the courage to overcome. Such are our youthful imaginations!

Almost 70 years of life have taught me that those heroic opportunities are few and far between, if they come at all.

But the opportunities to stand for that which is right—when the pressures are subtle and when even our friends are encouraging us to give in to the idolatry of the times—those come along far more frequently. No photographer is there to record the heroism, no journalist will splash it across the newspaper's front page. Just in the quiet contemplation of our conscience, we will know that we faced the test of courage: Zion or Babylon?

Make no mistake about it: much of Babylon, if not most of it, is evil. And we will not have the pricking of our thumbs to warn us. But wave after wave is coming, crashing against our shores. Will it be Zion, or will it be Babylon?

If Babylon is the city of the world, Zion is the city of God. The Lord has said of Zion: "Zion cannot be built up unless it is by the principles of the law of the celestial kingdom" (D&C 105:5) and, "For this is Zion—the pure in heart" (D&C 97:21).

Wherever we are, whatever city we may live in, we can build our own Zion by the principles of the celestial kingdom and ever seek to become the pure in heart. Zion is the beautiful, and the Lord holds it in His own hands. Our homes can be places which are a refuge and protection, as Zion is.

We do not need to become as puppets in the hands of the culture of the place and time. We can be courageous and can walk in the Lord's paths and follow His footsteps. And if we do, we will be called Zion, and we will be the people of the Lord.

I pray that we will be strengthened to resist the onslaught of Babylon and that we can create Zion in our homes and our communities—indeed, that we may have "Zion in the midst of Babylon."

We seek Zion because it is the habitation of our Lord, who is Jesus Christ, our Savior and Redeemer. In Zion and from Zion, His luminous and incandescent light will shine forth, and He will rule forever. I bear witness that He lives and loves us and will watch over us.