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Why is it that the Talmud completely disregards Jesus, good or bad?

Islam talks about Jesus.

Judaism is the rock of Christianity. Why does it not say anything about him in the Torah. At least something. (good or bad)
Shouldn't we face the truth with our heads up and not avoid it completely? I'm not attacking anyone. I went to Ask Moses and they don't respond to this question: Why? They are simple question. Of course, I am going somewhere with them. I think they see my point. But, why not respond wiht the truth. I don't get mad. I could never get mad anymore. I just want to know the reasons behind "everythin"

"Which one of you would not lay your hand and lift up your sheep if it fell into a pit on the Sabbath?"

Are the "psalms" in the Talmud?
"The LORD said to my Lord, sit thou on my right hand till I make thine enemies thy footstool." If David called him Lord, how is he his son?

2006-06-14 11:29:49 · 10 answers · asked by lam_9 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I absolutely welcome any comment good or bad. It's always good to get all sides.

~ADIOS~

2006-06-14 11:30:55 · update #1

10 answers

1) "Why is it that the Talmud completely disregards Jesus, good or bad?" First of all, the Torah was written thousands of years before J came around. How could anything be written about him in there? You ask good or bad? It tell you. According to the Jew J (we may not even say his name) was a Jew who turned his back on G-d, his people, and the Rabbi's. He was a heretic and is despised by us. He started Christianity, a religion which persecuted and killed thousands of Jews. Think about the Spanish Inquisition when thousand were tortured and then burned at the stake. How about the Crusades when they stormed into peaceful Jewish villages and killed every Jew they came in contact with. How about all the Christian counties who expelled the Jews from their land - we have to live somewhere. There were pogroms, killings, blood libels and so much more. What do we think of J? We try not to think of him at all!

2) "Moses is the 'greatest' prophet according to the Torah?" Yes, Moses was the greatest prophet according to the Torah. (we dont consider J a prophet at all. First of all he turned away from his religion, secondly he didn't fullfil any of the requirment that a Messiah is supposed to. He called himself the son of G-d. He wanted people to worship him. That is a form of idoltry according to the Torah and punishable by death.

3)"Which one of you would not lay your hand and lift up your sheep if it fell into a pit on the Sabbath?" I dont see where this comes in. There are laws on the Sabbath that forbids us from doing many things with our animals. But there is 1 thing (Hebrew) "tzar ba'al Hachaim" which means that an animal is in pain. We may do anything to help an animal in pain. For example, it would really be forbidden to milk a cow on Shabbos, but since it would put the cow in pain we may milk her but must throw out the milk.

I hope I answered your questions, contact me if not!

2006-06-20 04:22:06 · answer #1 · answered by Sunshine 3 · 0 0

Why should the Talmud mention anything about Jesus?

Here is what the truth is as far as Judaism is concerned. Jesus was not the Messiah, nor the son of G-d, nor a prophet, nor a rabbi. In short, he is irrelevant. So, why does the Talmud have to mention something that is irrelevant?
Islam mentions him because of their view of him as a prophet.

I will also note that the Talmud was compiled in a place and an era where Christianity was not the dominant religion so there was also no element of rabbis having to answer for why they didn't beleive in Jesus (unlike in Christian dominated areas during the middle ages where rabbis were sometimes forced to have a public debate about the subject).

Psalms is widely quoted in the Talmud.

As to the verse you quote, the hebrew word for the second lord is adoni, which means "my lord" or "my master" and is not really used as a reference to THE Lord as the Christian capitalization of the first letter is trying to imply (on purpose).

2006-06-18 04:17:08 · answer #2 · answered by BMCR 7 · 0 0

It's unimaginable for it to be a connection with Jesus. Even the NT does not make any declare that Jesus was once a prophet. It might reference any of the prophets we all know of within the bible. See the Jewish Bible for the record. It might even be the messiah. One transparent factor is that it's speakme of a human, and isn't speakme of a divine being. Moses was once now not divine. We additionally realize it can't be Jesus or Muhammed due to the fact the phrases they spoke clash with His phrase within the Jewish Bible. Another passage within the JB states that any alleged prophet that presents teachings in clash with the Jewish Bible is a fake prophet. So any teachings of the Koran or the New Testament ought to be in comparison to the lessons of the JB. Any factor of clash proves fake prophecy.

2016-09-09 01:49:23 · answer #3 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Actually, I think the Elijah was the greatest Jewish prophet. And he does prophecize about a Messiah. Other than vague prophecies, OF COURSE there's nothing in the Talmud or anywhere else in the Old Testament about Jesus - all of those things were written well before 4 A.D. (when Jesus was supposedly born).

2006-06-14 11:35:49 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

The Torah consists of the first five books of our bible.
They were written by Moses.
To the Jewish people moses is the greatest of all prophets and i would even, as a Christian, agree.
It was Moses that brought the children of Israel out of captivity and began the foundation from which Christianity would spring.
Jesus Christ is not the messiah in the eyes and heart of the Jew.

2006-06-14 11:35:42 · answer #5 · answered by drg5609 6 · 0 0

Maybe one reason that people are not responding is because we don't know exactly where to start. You have no less than 6 questions written above which are vaguely related. I think discussions would be more constructive for you if you only asked one at a time.

2006-06-14 11:40:26 · answer #6 · answered by bwjordan 4 · 0 0

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2006-06-14 11:32:46 · answer #7 · answered by my_hottie_boyfriend 1 · 0 0

Because Jesus is not the Messiah...Moses is the most important prophet he had a special relationship with god that no other person had!

2006-06-14 11:32:20 · answer #8 · answered by Assad 3 · 0 0

Moses was a "great terror"-ist, according to Moses in Deut 34:12. Those who sat in Moses' seat: law, where called hypocrites, fools, vipers, and blind guides in Mt 23. Moses' law was the accuser of the brethren, according to JC in Jn 5:45. Moses' law also the strength of sin's death sting in 1Cor 15:56. It's also ministrations of condemnation & death in 2Cor 3:7,9.

As for Moses being the greatest of "them"(male and female Adam: Gen 5), you may want to note "as in Adam("them") all die": 1Cor 15; and that Moses is listed in a hall of shame (not of fame) in Heb 11, where it also notes these all died and received not the promise.

Solomon concludes the law and prophets as "all vanity and vexation of spirit(grace)": Eccl. Solomon also says, "with all thy getting, get understanding", which results in "grace" glory as the crowning glory for thy head(Christ, whose head is God): Prov 4.

Hence after comparing spiritual(law) with spiritual(grace), which is also as comparing a motal and corruptible crown of glory with an immortal and incorruptible crown glory (1Cor 9; 1Cor 15; 2Cor 3) the Bible concludes

The "grace" of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

2006-06-14 12:03:36 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

jesus. is the christ. we love him. jesus is god.

2006-06-14 11:34:22 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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