Do you feel as if too many civilians have been killed in Iraq?

Question

We are forced into killing way too many Civilians because Rumsfeld/Bush/Cheney and the other Chickenhawks who started this War refused to listen to their Generals and refused to take enough troops into Iraq to Secure it, defeating IRaq's Army was no big deal for the most powerful Military Force in the World, but unless you have enough troops to Occupy and Secure the places where you have defeated the Enemy Forces, you cannot Secure the Country.

As far as fighting a War using the enemies "Rules", or lack of them, that remidns me of an old saying...."If you lay down with Pigs long enough, pretty soon no one will be able to tell the difference".......

The World is starting to have a hard time telling the Difference...

"As the war in Iraq continues for a fourth year, the global image of America has slipped further, even among publics in countries closely allied with the United States, a new global opinion poll has found......."
http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/06/13/news/pew1.ph

Answer 1

I see that you have posted another question you really don't want an answer to. Stop telling us what we already know. People die in wars. Here are some numbers for you:

Top ten wars with the most US military fatalities: as of 2003

10: Gulf War: 148
9: Spanish/American war of 1898: 385
8: Mexican war of 1846: 1733
7: War of 1812: 2,260
6: Revolutionary War: 4,435
5: Korean War: 33,651
4: World War l: 53,513
3: Vietnam: 58,193
2: Civil War: 140,414 (Union only: Confederates recorded at 74,000 est)

NUMBER ONE: World War ll: 292,131

The greatest civilian losses in all world history are from World War ll: Across the globe, a shocking tally of: 25,568,400.

42,747 Civilian deaths are reported at http://iraqbodycount.net/ and that doesn't compare to the lowest civilian body count of WWll which was 300,000 suffered in Hungary.

Current death toll of our service men totals in at 2500 estimate, with changes daily. That currently puts Iraq in at #7 on the top ten.

I don't want to see this war climb to number 6 any more than any one else. Beyond that, what I am trying to say, is that what you are saying has been known for centuries (speaking of the fact that people die in wars) so you aren't presenting anything new and in fact you are just ranting. Yet, I will answer you question by saying this. ONE death from this war, was too many. That is the reality of war. It is hell and good people die. I wish it weren't happening, but there it is. Support our troops, and welcome them home when they come!

Answer 2

So. How many have been killed, actually? How many have been killed by coalition forces and how many by the terrorist insurgents?

Try focusing on the big picture here. There are always personal tragedies during a war.

There is nothing that shows that Gen. Tommy Franks wanted more troops. As for the occupation, there was quite a difference in opinion in how many troops would be enough or too many. I still do not see that the theory we didn't have enough has been proven to any extent.

As for global opinion, who cares what they think? I don't. Their opinion carries no weight, has no value, helps my life in no way whatsoever. If they don't like us, fvckem.

And we're not using the enemy's rules. That's just stuck on stupid.

Answer 3

One civilian being killed, accidentally or deliberately, is one too many.

Of course civilians in Iraq have been killed, but almost all of them were inadvertent deaths -- and their numbers are nowhere near as high as the propaganda spewed out by the radical anti-war crowd.

The overwhelmingly vast majority of Iraqi civilian deaths have been caused by the "insurgents" -- I put that term in quotes because I think they're more accurately described as terrorists.

Fortunately, we got the main terrorist in Iraq last week -- it won't put an end to the "insurgency" over there, but it sure puts a dent in it.

Even with Hadithah -- for which the Marines involved were being convicted by the media and by liberal politicians before they even had a fair trial -- is now turning out to be different that originally portrayed.

Turns out now that the Marines very well may have legitimately returned fire on a building where "insurgents" were firing on them and holding civilians as "human shields" at the same time.

Answer 4

Civilian deaths are indeed a harsh reality of war and one innocent death is too much in my opinion. However, I would suggest that you take a look back into history to WWII and realize the civilian destruction that the Axis and Allies thrust upon one another. The bombing runs of that Nazi Germany conducted over Great Britain resulted in horrendous devastation. A few years later, the carpet bombings of German cities killed hundreds of millions. Then there were the Japanese attacks on China, the Philippines and Hawaii. Not to mention the fire bombing of Tokyo and the dropping of the atomic bombs.

The number of civilian deaths in Iraq pale in comparison to these.

Answer 5

The terrorists are the ones to blame. We are simply protecting Iraq until it is stong enough to govern, police, and sustain itself. Iraq has a democractically-elected government, which removes any excuse for terrorists because they can elicit change through the political process. However, they choose to impose their anti-democratic, Islama-fascist will on the rest of the country.

Remember, the terrorists are not being forced to fight us. In fact, the harder they fight, the longer we'll have to stay there and stabilize the country.

Do don't blame the liberators for civilian deaths. Blame the terrorists.

Answer 6

Oh God Yes! Those poor people did nothing to deserve being bombed back to the stone age. I hate to think what the real death count is. As always, rich man's war, poor man's blood. Sure wish Saddam and Bush would have just had a duel. But hey, how can anyone get rich that way......Right?

Answer 7

What the US is doing to the iraqis people and Iraq is complete barbarism and crime against humanity..

It was a complete illegal war for all the wrong reasons, by all mean the current occupation can be labelled as state terrorism..

( simply put, the US export more terrorism than it export cars..)

Answer 8

Does it suck that many civilians have died? Yes. Are we the people doing the killing? In most cases, no.
Instead of just repeating the propaganda, why don't you independently think about the facts that we had a depleted military force to start with, and they sent in as many people as they possibly could.

Answer 9

How many is WAY too many? Isn't one bad enough?
This is what happens when fascists invade a country for no reason other than their own greed. Civilians suffer the consequences and get beaten down for standing up for themselves.

Answer 10

One question for you...How many AMERICAN citizens died in the Semptember 11 attacks. And how many AMERICAN families were ripped apart because some idiots decided they hated our country! How many AMERICAN families are grieving because their loved ones went over and fought for YOU and YOUR FAMILY and the rest of the AMERICANS here. Find that out and then come talk to me.