Life woudn't make sense if there is no heaven or hell would it now?

Question

Take a man who has done bad all his life, who's biggest wish was to hurt others and make them suffer the worst things.
Take a man who has loved and helped others all his life, who's biggest wish was to see others happy and was always ready to give before reciving. What difference would this two persons have if they both end up dead in a hole under the earth? What was the point in being good or bad if you end up in the same place? Don't you think life is worthless if there isn't an afterlife?
Please explain and tell your opinion.

Answer 1

The world doesn't change when you put sugar on it.

I agree that it isn't fair that a nice person and an ******'s deeds on earth aren't given some final reward or punishment for their time on earth.

However, this has no bearing on whether heaven and hell really exist. This is a physical reality issue, and physical reality is not dictated by what would be nice or fair. I am an athiest and believe strongly in the natural construction of the universe, not one designed and controlled consciously from above.

I would rather live in a world knowing there is no god or afterlife than believing in a god that loves me and made the world as a testing ground for my loyalty (which isn't real but makes people feel better about themselves and gives them purpose).
This reward in the 'real world' is accepting that life isn't fair and that nature throws tremendous curveballs to us that are explained with much more complicated logic than the binary religious system (on/off, good/bad/ right/wrong, black/white).

Answer 2

Life might make more sense if the argument you presented - that people who hurt other people are punished for it in Hell and that people who help other people are rewarded for it in Heaven - were the case. Unfortunately, according to Christianity at least, there is absolutely no correlation between goodness and Heaven or badness and Hell. You can be the meanest, cruelest, most selfish murdering jerk in the world, and so long as you embrace a belief in Christ in your dying moments, you completely avoid all punishment and ascend straight to Heaven. Talk about warped; it's even a sicker theory than saying everyone ends up in a hole in the ground.

Life does make sense in that you get what you give, at least some of the time. If you're a selfish, backstabbing prick, chances are good that eventually you'll end up miserable and alone or surrounded by other selfish, backstabbing prick. If you're kind and charitable, chances are that people will appreciate your kindness and will thank you for it in innumerable ways. But in the end, good behavior is no guarantee of good fortune, and bad behavior is no guarantee of bad fortune. It comes down to a personal decision to either embrace humanity as a whole or not. And although love of humanity doesn't necessarily make you wealthy or famous, it does carry its own reward. And that reward is one that will be inherited by future generations of people who have benefitted from the love you spread; it's not just something you carry with you to the grave.

Answer 3

Sure it would. I believe in reincarnation. To me, it makes sense that the soul starts out a bit "blank," or newborn, in the terms of experiences. As the soul grows and matures, it can sometimes make mistakes, and, like anything else, those actions can become habits in one life. It takes the next life or maybe a few more for the soul to realize that such things are not the appropriate ways to behave towards others, and in the meantime the soul could be experiencing the same sorts of things to teach them why the suffering of others is bad--it can always happen to you at some point, when you become the weak one. As the soul that had such a negative past learns and grows, it becomes more open to helping rather than hurting others, which helps it on its way towards maturity. Eventually, where there are no more flaws for the soul to grow out of, it will leave the cycle of rebirth and join with the Ultimate Power.

To me, that is far more of a worthwhile endeavor for the soul than to become only as good as one lifetime will allow and then just stop growing and learning.

Answer 4

What if you asked God what you could do for him and his response was: "Be happy in life."?

Life is what you make of it. It's worth is for you to judge.

You're telling me the only reason for being "Good" is because some mysterious, unknown punishment might await you at the end? Perhaps for someone with no conscience and a ridiculously strong sense of self-preservation-which would nullify opportunities for 'bad'(it IS opinion) acts as he'd likely be afraid to leave the house.

Being 'good' has it's own immediate benefits in this lifetime, even for the selfish.

I'm an atheist.

Answer 5

Yes I firmly belive that life will be worthless if both good and bad person will end up dead for nothing.

The bible tells us that there is judgement after death.

HEBREWS 9:27 - And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

We will all die for sure,... after this, the judgement. And we should prepare for this, for the time we face judgement there is no turning back, no second chance.

Answer 6

Eze 33:18 When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he shall even die thereby.
Eze 33:19 But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby.
Eze 33:20 Yet ye say, The way of the Lord is not equal. O ye house of Israel, I will judge you every one after his ways.

Answer 7

I totally agree! The Bible tells of a glorious afterlife; however, you don't get there by being a 'good' person. You get there by believing that Jesus died for you and that you are a sinner and need a Savior. He is the 'Way the Truth and the Life'.

Answer 8

Your question should be: "Life wouldn't make sense if there is no CONCEPT of heaven or hell would it now? A concept of something can exist, but that something does not necessarily have to exist. Concepts are useful, they help us to make sense of the world. But they might not be factually true.

Answer 9

You are absolutely right. Otherwise, we are all the same. Even if we apply the moder theories at workplaces; motivation, reward, promotion, demotion, etc, all logic confirm this. Also because Allah is just; there must be a payback day.

Answer 10

Don't you think it would also be pointless if they went to heaven or hell.

WHAT IS THE POINT OF GOING TO HEAVEN OR HELL???

Why would god make someone just so they can go to either of those places? Furthermore, WHY would he make someone, already knowing fully the extent of their righteousness.