If God is self-sufficient, why does He need us?

Question

And second: What is the purpose of creating intelligent beings and making them to chose between living according to God's rules or not?

What I really want to know is God's motivation for creating us.

The analogy with the parent and a children is the closest thing to the probable answer (in my opinion). But then I ask you: What is the purpose of creating children that will never surpass you? (by definition the human condition is far from perfection). This would be (in my opinion) a paren't greatest joy that his children are better then him.

Answer 1

If you want to understand the mind of God then think about existence from the absolute- Awareness Loves Life (ALL). Life is a dream God is the dreamer and we exist within the dream.

From our perspective Life Loves Awareness (LLA). Why were we created? because we chose to be.

Existence is far more fragile that any religious text may indicate.
Unfortunately, I do not have the space here to prove this to you other than to say God loves you, you are unique, you are more.
Let no man or woman stand in the way of your relationship with the universe.

Answer 2

This is a transcript of some of the religious discussion in the movie "what the bleep do we know". I don't know if it answers your question, but I found it quite fascinating. It's all from like the top scientists in the world, so different people said different parts. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Most of the problems that religion and various philosophical movements, down through the centuries have produced, have been errors because that's where they're started--

That God is a distinct separate being from us, to whom I must offer worship, whom I must cultivate, humor, please and hope to attain a reward from at the very end of my life.

That is not what God is. That is a blasphemy. God is such a broad thing. Some parts of which-- most of the parts of which, that are associated with organized religion, is something that
I sort of recoil at. It's something I think has done a lot
ofharm to the world, done harm to women, done harm to oppressed peoples, done harm to the World Trade Center.

And yet, and the same point... we have the epitome of a great science. The closest science has ever come to explaining Jesus'
interpretation that the mustard seed was larger than the kingdom of heaven, and the only science that can fit into that analogy is quantum physics.

Now, we have-- we have great technology... from antigravity magnets... and magnetic fields-- zero-point energy-- We have all that, and we still have this ugly, superstitious backwater concept of God.

People fall into line very readily when they're threatened by these cosmic sentences of everlasting punishment. But this is not how God is. And once you start to question the traditional images, caricatures of God... people feel you are an agnostic or an atheist... or a subverter of the social order.

God must be greater than the greatest of human weaknesses... and indeed... the greatness of human skill.

That God must even transcend our most remarkable, to emulate nature in its absolute splendor.

How can any man or woman sin against such a greatness of mind? How can any one little carbon unit, on Earth in the backwaters of, indeed the Milky Way, the boondocks... betray God Almighty? That is impossible.

The height of arrogance, is the height of control, of those who create God in their own image.

Answer 3

God created man out of desire or intention.God said or intended all that is into being.Man is the only creature that God declared is created in his image.The same record says God is spirit.An image is a likeness of something not the thing itself.Our bodies and soul are one in substance as God is a trinity one in substance.Our free wills are another example of how we are created in his image, as God is omnipotent and therefore chooses to be love or good,even as you have the right to choose.God does not ask you to choose to live according to his rules ,he simply outlines and defines those rules,so that you may choose to live by them and therefore be more like him,and receive all he intended for us to have prior to the separation of sin,and be all he intended at the inception of his creating man.
We are simply another unique creation of Gods, as he is the source from which all that is emanates from, so that he may experience through those creations whatever he intended too,based on their unique attributes.
Think of it this way if you could be anything and everything you wanted or chose to be at anytime,only to experience what it is to be that thing,and you could outline a game plan for it to reward both you and whatever it is you created with equal intensity ,wouldn't you?In the beginning was the word and the word was God.Its all about intention ,his not yours,but yours not his at the same time.God is the only true self sufficient,simply because he was ,is and always shall be.Hopefully this gives you some different views to consider ,other than those you choose now,which appear to be pretty much a closed subject.

Answer 4

This is a perfect question.
It deserves a perfect answer - not that I can give that but I can at least get you started.
BUT IT'S BIG!!!!!

The Beginning:
We HAVE ALWAYS LIVED, but not with bodies.

At a certain point in our eternal progression, God offered us 'spiritual bodies', which we accepted, and then spiritually begat us as His spirit sons and daughters in Heaven.

But some of us eventually chose to be wicked.
These were Satan and his many 'cronies'!

As we lived in Heaven we could see that our Heavely Father had an IMMORTAL GLORIFIED BODY, and we wanted to be like Him.
Like any powerfully Loving Father, He too desired that we could become like Him.
So He set up a plan whereby that was possible.

He offered us the opportunity to learn to become fathers and mothers just like Him and our Heavenly Mother.
That was possible by our receiving physical bodies to learn to grow in personal power etc.
Our memory has been cut off that we might PROPERLY be Tested, that we might learn to stand on our own 2 feet, and that we might learn to live by the power of Faith - not just Sight, as previously.

He needs us because He loves us,


I AM SORRY, BUT I HAD TO DEPART.
I GATHER YOUR LAST QUERY WAS DIRECTED AT ME.

[ALSO, HOW DO YOU DO THAT - COME BACK WITH RESPONSE?
FURTHER, DO YOU KNOW HOW TO COME BACK TO A QUESTION YOU WERE ANSWERING YESTERDAY.
I CAN NEVER SEE WHAT FOLLOWS MY COMMENTS!


I will try to go on:

We do have to recognize that God has reached Perfection.

We do not really Understand that word sufficiently in this life of Limitation to be able to talk about someone becoming greater than perfect, for neither do we really understand Eternity in this Life of Time ... and the 2 [perfection and eternity] are integrally linked - but we cannot really comprehend either yet.

So, He could only hope for our perfection [which is only possible through Jesus Christ [who eventually became perfect in this life, "through the things which He suffered"] and eventual perfect obedience to His Gospel, even if that takes beyond this life!
Nevertheless, the commitment can be made HERE NOW to achieve it.

It must also be remembered that God never takes away our freedom to choose - even before this life, we actually CHOSE to come here.
One thing we really chose HARD in our Pre-earth life was to become LIKE our Heavenly Father.

We loved and knew Him so well that even if someone had suggested to us that we might become greater than He, most of us would have said, "NO! I want to be exactly like Dad!"
... just as we do here as toddlers, for at that point in our lives, we are fresh from our Heavenly father and that's exactly how we felt about Him.
Even though we cannot mentally recall that life, our spirits are still full of eternity ... and we still feel as we did pre-earth.
He wants us to have what we want ... and we wanted to be like Him.

Only Satan and his cronies tried to ascend above God and take over everyone in Heaven, but isn't that just the case of some here as well in history??!!

Answer 5

First thing who told u that inelligent people live according to god's rules?intelligent people dont live according to gods rules
they live according to their self or according to the rules made by
the society or human beings which is good for them and i think u should be thankful to god that he made u and not say that if he is self sufficientand why he made us

Answer 6

b/c he loves us. and to let us live in the Heaven first b/f Adam & Hiwam makes mistak.
Second b/c Human is created by the place of "Evil" - when evil fail b/c of his idology God give rule to human not to be in the side of evil amd do evil thing.
That is all I know why God Creat & Love Human.
Sorry for limitation of discribing well, It is b/c of Language shortage.

Answer 7

He invented us because he was bored and needed some pets. And we were so weird and did so many funny things that he decided to keep us around. He set down a bunch of rules just as you give rules to your dog, knowing it won't follow them but so He could have fun seeing what we would screw up.

Answer 8

get over yourself. God needs nobody, and surely not your arrogant a*s. next time you have a heart attack or are seized by uncontrollable diarrhea in the middle of a meeting you may come to understand more clearly if God needs you, or the other way round.

Answer 9

He doesn't, he chose to create us because he loves us. He created us in his own image because he wanted someone to love, like people wanting children. That's who we are, God's children. He likes us to do what he tells us and he likes to receive worship from us, but he doesn't force it, although he is sad over those who do not know and love him, because they don't know that he can forgive their sins and help them to deal with whatever life throws at them. He also chooses to use us to do his work but he doesn't have to delegate it to us.

Answer 10

Everyone is entitled to their own belief. Me, We are called to join Gods army.In revalations, when it talks about fighting the war between good and evil, We all need to fight against evil. If you choose not to believe and accept Christ as your personal savior then I am sorry, you have already lost the battle.