by uniting and standing up in their public school classrooms and reciting the lord's prayer on the same day at the same time all across the USA?
2006-06-13
15:17:16
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Who said I was in elementary and secondary school or even that I personally am a student.
2006-06-13
15:46:12 ·
update #1
1. Minors are not excluded from the right to free practice of religion.
2. the phrase "wall of seperation between church and state" is from a letter written by Thomas Jefferson to a catholic order assuring them that the government could not prevent them from worshiping at any time or in any place. The phrase is not a part of any legal document and written by a man who took no part in forming the constitution or the bill of rights. The phrase was first quoted by a supreme court justice to explain why the court ruled that students at a catholic school could not be excluded from a publicly funded bussing system when the bus system served students from other private schools and the reason for exclusion was that the school had religious affiliations.
3. Christianity requires constant worship and that all things be done in the name of God. For any true follower of Christ worshiping only at church is not an option.
2006-06-13
15:59:58 ·
update #2
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Christian students standing up and saying the Lord's Prayer does not compel you to join them nor does it compell you to accept their beliefs. All that would happen is that you would have to see and hear them as they engaged in free practice of religion. Public Schools teach the religion of Humanism and Humanism is a religion make no mistake about it. Christian students have the right to respond to those religious teachings through forms of peaceful speech.
2006-06-15
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A lot of people would have to hear them recite the Lord's prayer.
Really, it all comes down to this:
Public schools are government funded organizations, the First Amendment of the United States Constitution states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof....".
It's not saying you CAN'T say the Lord's Prayer in school, just that the school staff or faculty cannot require or lead the school as a whole in the recitation of the Lord's prayer.
2006-06-13 15:24:52
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answered by steveb106 5
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The same thing that all students who stood up in their classroom and recited a Walt Whitman poem in celebration of their First Amendment right to free speech would get...
Detention. Just because expression is religiously motivated doesn't give it any extra preference over non-religious speech. Students can't just start disrupting school without punishment. It doesn't matter if they are reciting the Lord's Prayer. Or bowing to Mecca. Or singing It's a Small World After All.
There is a proper time and place for expression. And as long as schools are being neutral in how they enforce their rules, religions don't get any special treatment. Either way.
2006-06-13 15:19:38
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answered by coragryph 7
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Well, it depends on the school system. My school is located in a small town and thankfully can go on teaching and conforming to the town's views without having very much "political correctness" conflicting. Teachers teach how they wish and if a student disagrees they are allowed to. Religious discussions that pertain to something that would result in any type of learning are allowed. In my opinion and it seems as though my school is the same way...you present all sides of a topic such as religion and allow students to put in whatever input they have and students can choose what they wish to believe or not. There is nothing wrong with learning about another religion. "I may not agree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it" Voltaire. Maybe I'm just lucky to live in a small mainly Christian community although Jewish and atheist students along with the others can voice their opinion and teach us what they believe also. Nobody gets offended.
2006-06-13 16:49:52
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answered by A.I.Disguise 2
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If it were public school, they would simply violate separation of church and state which is the foundation of our country for very good reasons. They would more than likely be denounced and ridiculed not only for being totally selfish for promoting only thier Christian beliefs, but most secular people (the majority of students) if educated would know about the anti-Americanism represented by such an act.
That is not an act of freedom of religion. It is an opressive act that does not take into account other faiths and the principles of democracy.
What you are describing is an assault on religious freedom in fact.
2006-06-13 15:30:38
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answered by Anonymous
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Hopefully, they all get suspended for disorderly conduct, at the same time.
BTW, students don't have rights. Of religion or any other kind. You don't have the right to free speech, assembly, privacy, press, or any other right; you are a MINOR, and you are on public property by PRIVILEGE. You (your parents) have asked permission to enter that property and were granted it, under certain provisions.
Two of those provisions were that you sit down and shut the hell up.
Seriously, the school can tell you what to wear/ not wear, what to say/not say, where to go/ not go, what you will learn/ not learn and on and on and on. That is the deal that your parents made on your behalf. If you don't like it, take it up with your parents.
As for religion in school, that's what church is for. I used to skip church to get away from that crap, I certainly didn't want to hear it in school, and neither does any other non-Christian.
If you want to pray in school, go to a religious school. There you will also have no rights. You will not have the right not to pray if you don't want to, because you will STILL be subject to the rules of the adults placed in authority over you.
2006-06-13 15:34:17
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answered by normobrian 6
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What does disrupting a classroom and making a show of yourselves have to do with freedom of religion? I think everyone else's right to an education free from such distractions trumps your supposed right. Go to school to learn. Go to church for the rest.
What would happen? Not much... you'd raise a stink and lose a day of learning and make a spectacle out of yourselves (which is what you really want in the first place, I suspect).
2006-06-13 15:25:22
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answered by Matthew C 2
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If you had them do it at recess, I'd say more power to you.
There is not enough time in a school day to justify ANYTHING other than curriculum in public schools. Disrupting another student's right to learn is REAL American, isn't it.
The rules which apply to public schools are there as much to protect a child's right to religion as limit it. I have yet to hear one reasonable argument as to why anyone has to pray during class when recesses and lunch are available. AND - if it IS that important, then they need to go to a private school so that their practices don't infringe upon another child's.
I have found most people who want prayer in school, want THEIR prayer in school to make others participate, not so much that they need the time to pray.
2006-06-13 16:15:22
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answered by grim reaper 5
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If & when that happens it would make a difference. The media would pick up the story & everyone would hear that Christian students would like the same rights as others. They may get detention, but there is always a price to make change. Remember, "the shot heard round the world" - it was only heard because people spoke of it & media reported it. Good luck & start with the Pledge of Alligence.
2006-06-13 15:59:20
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answered by Wolfpacker 6
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If I did that, I would be expelled.
I do think it's a wonderful idea, though! You set the time and I'll do it!
But we Christians can still make a stand, step by step---by living for Christ and being an example that others want to follow. By praying over our meals in the cafeteria, not putting up with our friend's bad language, and being a light in a world of darkness, we take these small steps, and if we continue to do that, Christianity will take it's claim over schools again, like it should.
2006-06-13 15:59:28
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answered by Anonymous
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I agree. Kiss the far left goodbye. It's hard to fight the majority when and if they make a stand. It doesn't help either when far-left loons try to paint things in such a pretty light (I won't get into specifics). All religions should be respected, no question. There is also no question that there is a double-standard between Christianity and every other religion on the planet.
2006-06-13 15:24:08
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answered by Anonymous
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