Do you think this scripture could be talking about the people that we know now as the American Indians?

Question

And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. John 10:16

Do you think there could have been other people in other places that Christ would want to talk to?

I wondered how long it would take to find someone else who is LDS thanks and I'm also intrested in what everybody else thinks.

Answer 1

you kind of have to read between the lines when Jesus Chirst is speaking. since he is talking to a jewish believers, he is telling them that he has more sheep/followers who are not in front of him but spread through out the world. and that all his followers are not just jews but from other races as well.

Answer 2

God know where all his people are, no matter the race or religion. (North and South American Indians would be included here, of course). You probably know them as Lamenites.

It says it right there in the scripture (And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring). God created us all, and I don't think that he misplaced anybody.

If God knows about these "other" people, then I am quite sure that Christ is well aware of them, too. And if Christ wants to talk to them, I can hardly see that this would be a problem for Him.

Just read the words in the bible (don't try to read too much into them), and even if you don't understand everything fully, I believe that you will understand enough to use it as a guide for living.

If you read through the bible, and don't get side tracked by organized religion's interpretations, you will find that is a history book. And like other history books, you can learn about the good and bad ways to live. The mistakes and the successes.

This where choice and free will come in. You can make a choice of which way you want to live your life, and you have the free will to follow through on your choice.

I know that you follow another bible, and it has a lot of good information in it, so don't cast that aside. Man puts the words down on paper, words that were translated into the language that he is writing in. If you have ever tried to translate a letter or book, written in a language other than your own, then you will understand about the old saying "a lot is lost in the translation".

Basically try to live a good and honest life, and the God of your choosing will see how you live.

And please don't get to preaching here at Q & A. This is not the place for it. Everybody has their own beliefs and they will continue to live by these beliefs, no matter what you say here.

Answer 3

There is another set of scriptures called the Book of Mormon which was revealed through the Mormon prophet Joseph Smith in 1830s. The Book of Mormon accounts a series of events happened concerning a group of people in the American continent, it also includes an account of Christ's visitation of the "Nephites" after His resurrection. I think this is a fulfillment of the prophecy given in John 10:16, as the Nephites are known as the ancestors of the American Indians.

As a Christian believing in Christ, I think the Lord refers to not only the American Indians (as the Book of Mormon indicated), but also other groups of people. I believe there are things to be revealed yet and we shall find out who the rest of the sheep are.

Answer 4

Yes I do believe that and that is why I became Mormon. I had always of how Jesus was for everyone but I always wondered about the Native Americans especially since I have an interest in them and when I met the missionaries of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and we discussed this very scripture and I found out how people who did not have the chance to about Christ could well I knew and then I prayed and received my anwer and I've been a member ever since 18 yrs ago. Very insightful and keep it up :)

Answer 5

i wonder why you think specifically Native American people (asking as a native american person)
also you are thinking with a western mind, but think of the geographic location of the people who wrote gospels of the bible, and where the events happened.
also i think that God was referring to all different people, not just one other specific group, and of course Christ wants reach other people every where as we are all his children.

to break down this scripture " this fold" is referring to Jerusalem and those "not of this fold" are Gentiles meaning God has sheep other than the Jews ( like i said we are ALL his children)

i don't know that that guy was talking about reading the book of Mormon because it discusses the origin of the " Indian"
i want to let you know that unless the book of Mormon says that Native Americans are descendants from East Asia,( for the most part) then it is unfortunately inaccurate

Answer 6

I agree with Piratedoll ..... perhaps communication with life forms of other planets.

w/r/t Jesus wanting to communicate and share ideas with the native American Indians and that this is what the scripture you presented means? No. Emphatically, NO. This was not something He would have been considering. 2000 years ago most cognizant people in the Middle East did not even acknowledge there might be places that were civilized, much less populated, beyond the "known" land masses. Most were not aware that the earth was round ..... and even more could not conceive of the possibility that there was another pair of continents where people lived in semi-civilized advanced societies.

In addition, American Indians were perceived to be "pagan" and "less than human" by most of the conquerors who "discovered" the Americas later on.

Answer 7

Whenever you employ the time period "magic undies" you are both purposefully being very impolite and really disrespectful, or your one hundred% oblivious and optimistically you'll be able to gain knowledge of and would possibly not make that mistake once more. Using that style of language is a button pusher, for this reason the "troll" feedback. They're referred to as clothes (LDS clothes, temple clothes, and many others), and no, they do not have magical homes. They're nearly like longer boxer shorts and a t-blouse. They're fairly now not that fascinating. Adult Mormons can pick to put on them after they have long gone by way of one of the vital LDS temples. They remind us to preserve the commandments they usually advertise modesty. We do not think that the local american citizens had been burnt up as god's punishement. The Book of Mormon does inform the tale of a few individuals who lived within the Americas from approximately 2000 BC to approximately four hundred AD. We recognise little of what occurred among four hundred AD and 1500 AD, nonetheless, we do think that probably the most local american citizens had ancestors who had been within the Book of Mormon.

Answer 8

There are a couple of takes on this scripture. The Mormons (Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints) use this piece of scripture to supporth the theory that Jesus came to the Americas. It is also supported by the thought that the Aztecs looked at the first Spaniards as Gods because a God had visited them with white skin and a beard, he had told them he'd be back. So, if you read the Book of Mormon, you can get more on this.

But it could also mean Jews vs. Gentiles, and other people who Jesus hoped to preach to.

Answer 9

this scripture has some historical application from the text in the context people have mentioned, of Jews and gentiles. The term gentile means anyone who is not a Jew. Clearly this includes native peoples from all over the world. remember that this was written around 1900 years ago in the Middle East. It is talking about everyone. I do think Christ wanted this message to reach people beyond that audience, and we can take it as a signal for us to carry the message of his love to the billions of people who still do not know about it. This is not the same as colonizing people and using religion to gain economic or political power, which has been a key abuse of Jesus' message. What it means is that Jesus chooses to use those who have his message to continue to bring hope and work out what he called the "Kingdom of God" in this world. He wasn't just talking about heaven, he intended that we act as agents that would bring God's will, and love to the world we live in.

Answer 10

I believe it talk of Jews and Gentiles as your Second answer (larythebear) says.
NOW read these Scriptures. Mark 9:38-41.
Very interesting, Jesus has many Sheep in the fold! ;-)
Sometimes we may not even know......... makes one wonder about arguing with other Religions/Denominations if they for Christ. Just a thought!

Answer 11

No, actually at this time the only people allowed to become Christians were Jews who were converted to Christs followers (hence Christians (i.e., Christ like)). After Jesus died and was resusurrected and on the day of Pentecost; the Jewish day of the First Fruits outside the line of Jews (Gentiles - the other sheep not of the line of Abraham) were saved by Jesus' sacrifice as well as the children of Abraham as God had promised him.