People should stop reading Da Vinci Code and study history. Constatine and the Council of Nicea met in 325 A.D. to decide the divinty of Jesus and the doctrine of the trinity.
Constatine did NOT put the Bible together. Only Catholic Bishops did. They did it in:
The Council of Rome (382 A.D.)
The Council of Hippo (393 A.D.)
The Council of Carthage (397 A.D.)
This was DECADES after Nicea!
2006-06-13
13:06:54
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Mainworry: This is fact. Go look at objective history.
2006-06-13
13:12:47 ·
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I have studied the council of Nicea The Canon was not established until the Council of Carthage in 397 A.D.
2006-06-13
13:14:03 ·
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There were many lists proposed but the cannon became official between 382-397.
Pope Innocent 1 closed the cannon in 405 A.D.
2006-06-13
13:15:34 ·
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Dewcoons: you're right many books were considered scripture, but it didn't become OFFICIAL until the late 4th century.
2006-06-13
13:36:09 ·
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No friend, you are wrong.
Constantine CANONIZED our Bible.
The records of the Council of Nicea are available to verify.
I don't have the time to find them.
I did a whole sermon on this.
The Council of Nicea did all GOOD things for Christianity AS OPPOSED to the things the Dan Brown Code says.
2006-06-13 13:11:54
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answered by Tom C 3
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Most Christians do NOT believe that the Bible was put together at Nicea. Fact is the Council at Nicea did not decide which books should go into the canon. Not one of the decrees of the Council deals with the canon.
The council at Nicea was called because of heresies being circulated had to be stopped. Fact is the Bible, as we know it, was already accepted 150 to 200 years before Constantine was born.
It is true that some official RECOGNITIONoccurred during Constantine’s lifetime and shortly after, but the council DID NOT assemble nor did they add or delete any gospels during this time.
The Bible was assembled long before Nicea. (By the way even those who claim this - are only referring to the New Testament, not the entire Bible. The Old Testament was assembled many years before)
Ancient Christian Historian, Eusebius, tells us how the canon came to be.
The New Testament was put together with the reliability of some connection to the apostles, read by all the early churches, trusted by the eyewitnesses who were still alive when the Bible was put together.
All of the gospels were from the first century and all within one generation of the life of Christ. All 27 books of our New Testament had been written and received by the early churches by the end of the first century. Each book had to maintain its consistency with the other books in the canon.
What WAS discussed at Nicea was whether Jesus was CO-ETERNAL with the Father. And that was Not a close vote. The vote was 300 to 2.
2006-06-13 20:17:25
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answered by FAITH 2
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The books of the Bible were well established before the Nicean Councils. But because Christian was a banned religion before that, this was the first time they could FORMAL proclaim what they were.
Peter, clear back in the first century wrote that the letters of Paul were already considered scripture, and encouraged others to read them.
Irenaus, an early Christian scholar who lived a century and a half before the Nicean council, wrote that the four gospels were so universally accepted as scripture that they served as the four pillars that support the church. He wrote "It is impossible that the number of Gospels could more or less than the four that they are." In fact the word Gospell comes from "four in number".
They were referred to in 180 AD as being like the four points of the compass.
Fifty years before the Nicean council, Origen, another prominent scholar and theologian wrote that while he knew of other gospels, such as the gospel of Thomas and the gospel of Matthias, said that he had read them so that he could not be accused of being ignorant. Nevertheless, among those the church had approved where only the four gospel. (Notice they were ALREADY approved before any council).
Also, according to the records kept of the Nicean council, the issue of the divinity of Jesus was not debated. The issue of whether he was HUMAN was debated. Some at that time were beginning to teach that Jesus was ONLY God, and did not have a physical body. that he was only a spirit. The council reaffirmed that he was both Man and God.
2006-06-13 20:33:54
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answered by dewcoons 7
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If Jesus was a Jew why was Rome given the "laws" of God? It was actually a representative of Rome that put him to death yet still today the Jews are blamed by christians. In the early christian history The Romans murdered the early followers. Let us not forget the religion is called ROMAN catholic. In THEIR early church only their appointed priests were allowed to even read this law. The pope still serves Rome and is nothing more than a roman emperor. Anyone challenging this doctrine was put to death. WHO WERE THESE ROMANS THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE WISDOM TO DECIDE ANYTHING DEVI NE. They baptize babies at birth to remove any choice what so ever from the human of their religion. It is the most insidious cult ever designed. That which is founded on murder is founded by evil. Think about it.
2006-06-13 20:30:08
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answered by Anonymous
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There is nothing wrong with reading the Da Vinci Code.... just taking it as fact is stupid.
It's a fiction book wirten about some guys theroy, with conspiracy thrown in to make it intresting, and some made up history to fill in some gaps....
While his terioes that christ could have had children is quite cenciable.... he made up a LOT of histroy to tell an interesting and complaling story.
Then again I would gather the kinda people that take it for fact are the same kind that beleave everything in the national inquirer.
2006-06-13 20:15:13
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answered by CrazyCat 5
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Weren't the books in bible included due to the fact that they agreed with the doctrine established by the nicean creed and those excluded were done so because they disagreed with the doctrine established by the nicean creed? Indirectly, Constantine would be responsible since he was responsible for the council of Nicea.
2006-06-13 20:22:08
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answered by cluckyt 2
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That's just it. Christians don't believe that the Bible was put together by Constantine. We believe that all Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness. The Da Vinci Code is extremely misleading and deceptive. I agree with you, people need to know their facts before reading the Da Vinci Code, it's a great fiction, but should not be taken as fact.
2006-06-13 20:12:10
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answered by meredith.king 3
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The Nicean Council did decide the validity of many of the books put in the bible. However, Constantine (as you said, did not) he only called the Bishops together to get them to talking and to stop fighting about such matters. Constantine wanted Christianity to be as 'one' and not divided, and so he called the council and told them to work out their differences. We've been paying for it since.
2006-06-13 20:13:24
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answered by AdamKadmon 7
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Why do you assume ALL christians believe that the Bible was put together by Constatine? You have gone and asked each and every Christian in the world?
2006-06-13 21:04:33
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answered by Mendedarrow 1
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What History books are you reading? They may have decided what THEY would allow, including two books not recognized as God inspired. You need to read Jewish history before making these false claims. You are too, being misled.
2006-06-13 20:19:23
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answered by mdfluvsjesus 3
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