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As some of you know the famous "I pledge allegiance" moron that sued over the word's "under God" is at it again only this time it's "in God we trust" on our coins. How many of you feel offended because you see those words on your coins? Really is it such a big deal that we should spend our tax dollars fighting this moron with too much time and money in his hands?

2006-06-12 20:11:29 · 31 answers · asked by yachtboy 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Some of you want to gone because I think you see yourselves as a "cosmopolitan, or modern". Whether you believe in God or not, God was and is a part of this nation. It was his believers that started this country and to hide our past with laws is just plain wrong.

2006-06-12 20:23:58 · update #1

31 answers

Yes, I think it's a big deal, and I am NOT offended to find those words on our coins. It is one of the very few places that God is still honored in our country. Should we invalidate the Declaration of Independence, or the Bill of Rights, because they make reference to God? No! This country was founded in Christianity, and although I do firmly believe in freedom from religious persecution, I think we've gone way too far on the other side... it is now the Christians who are persecuted, our prayers are not allowed, the very basic principals that this country was founded on are litigated, and all by people claiming to be offended by it... well, you know what? In many other countries, being the "wrong" religion can get you jailed and executed. We allow you the God-given right to disagree, but what right do you have to change who we are?!?! This country was founded on Christian principals, and you have the right to live here and not be a Christian (although I pray for those lost souls), but that does not mean that you have the right to interfere with my rights, either. Keep God in all that we do, to honor our forefathers, and honor our FATHER.

2006-06-12 20:34:42 · answer #1 · answered by kim's korner 2 · 2 2

In God We Trust should be removed from all public property, including money.

Taxpayers aren't responsible for promoting religion or God. It costs money to add those words and that money could be better spent elsewhere.

Since it's no big deal, then it should be no big deal if they're removed, so why are bible thumpers causing the government to waste tax dollars defending it? Being no big deal and all.


Additional comment:

"In God We Trust" was adopted iin 1954, not 1776. The founding fathers would probably be apalled that people had allowed religion to gain such a foothold in the federal government.

Most of the founding fathers were atheists, including G. Washington & T. Jefferson. The US is officially atheist (secular) and was intended to be so.

2006-06-12 20:19:04 · answer #2 · answered by Left the building 7 · 0 0

I'm a Hindu and it doesn't offend me that it is on the coins (and other money of the US). I don't usually notice it all that much. And the original national motto is still there, too "E Pluribus Unum". The word God is extremely vague in English usage today. It refers to the divinity of any religion. Thus God in this sense could easily mean the Christian God as well as the Hindu God. That's usually how all those words get translated anyways. Brahman=God; Allah=God; Waheguru=God; and so on and on and on. I've even heard Buddhist refer to God (and considering Buddhism doesn't have deities/divinities I just had to ask what they were refering to, to which they replied that it was what is sometimes translated as Void that they were translating as God in their texts and refering to....so the word God seems be whatever the godhead/source/etc is in philosophy/religion/spirituality).

Don't get me wrong, I can sort of see where he's coming from in not wanting on the money. I personally don't like the phrase "under God" in the pledge, but that's because in my religion one cannot be "under" God. I think the better term would be "in God", if we insist that God be included (and 'in' is much more reflective of how the word God is used in modern English...as mentioned above). Still, I guess if you have no defination of "God", then you might not like it being there. My father is Jehovah's Witness and he says the pledge is "idol worship". My conservative Jewish friends have told me that they don't like the name being put on the money because anything that has God's name on it (God is considered a name and they usually write G-d whenever writing it) is considered holy and therefore is not supposed to be destroyed (which money is destroyed once it completes its circulation and sometimes even individuals accidently destroy it). They seem to feel it is disrespectful to God. So I guess it's a matter of perspective.

Still, I'm not offended by it and think there are probably better things we could be doing with our time and I'm a progressive liberal who is all about freedom of religion! My only concern is his motivation. If he truly feels unjustly treated by the word these things and this has driven a passion in him, then I wouldn't want him to stop with his grievances. However, if it is just purely political, then I don't think this is a proper use of his time. Either way, I won't condemn him for exercising his rights as a citizen. That's the beautiful thing about our nation. Not only do we have the freedom of religious belief, but the freedom to ask our government to make changes when we feel that we have been wronged if our petition is accepted, we atleast get our day in court to be heard...whether the government actually makes the changes or not.

2006-06-13 00:13:23 · answer #3 · answered by gabriel_zachary 5 · 0 0

It doesn't bother me at all that it is on the currency. I will say that I do not believe that many within this country (or other countries for that matter) believe such which I find more than a little sad.

As to if there should be a court case over such - I find it to be a frivolous lawsuit myself. But with the kind of judges that are on benches across the country, such doesn't shock me either.

2006-06-12 20:17:20 · answer #4 · answered by Toe the line 6 · 0 0

I do.
This is from George Washington's inaugural address: Makes you think.

In tendering this homage to the Great Author of every public and private good, I assure myself that it expresses your sentiments not less than my own, nor those of my fellow-citizens at large less than either. No people can be bound to acknowledge and adore the Invisible Hand which conducts the affairs of men more than those of the United States. Every step by which they have advanced to the character of an independent nation seems to have been distinguished by some token of providential agency; and in the important revolution just accomplished in the system of their united government the tranquil deliberations and voluntary consent of so many distinct communities from which the event has resulted can not be compared with the means by which most governments have been established without some return of pious gratitude, along with an humble anticipation of the future blessings which the past seem to presage.

2006-06-12 20:37:53 · answer #5 · answered by a_phantoms_rose 7 · 0 0

Haha. I just had to comment because I am still cracking up over lockwood's answer.

" It could say "I lick balls" on the coin and I'd still spend the ****. "

....you are my hero.

I think whether people want to admit it or not, it's true. It's money. It pays the bills. I think there's more important things to worry about. As for the people that are "sickened" by it or find it extremely offensive, you can always just stop using money. I mean if you really feel that strongly about it....yeah, I thought so.

2006-06-12 20:34:18 · answer #6 · answered by poprocks24 3 · 0 0

Goes to show that there is no true seperation of church and state as stated in the constitution. These 'issues' tend to only come out when politicians or religious activists have too much time on their hands. Instead of "in god we trust" it should read "you're lucky you didn't get taxed enough that you had a chance to read this sentence on this note before you had to make your bill payments". That's probably more accurate than i.g.w.t..

2006-06-12 20:18:03 · answer #7 · answered by morningstar 3 · 0 0

I agree that most early Americans were Christians but there is this thing, perhaps youve heard of it its called seperation of church and state and it kinda sorta violates that. Not everyone in the U.S. trusts your god and the under god part of the pledge is recent. I will admit we are too politaclly correct in this country but you confuse this with supressing others who dont believe as you do. Blessed be.

2006-06-12 20:45:12 · answer #8 · answered by Ravenhawk 4 · 0 0

No god in government. People believe in many things and some believe there is no god. The only reason why money is accepted worldwide as trade instead of bartering is because 1. its more efficient. and 2. we believe in it. If everyone believes in money why should we have in god we trust on it if all people dont believe in god? Get rid of it.

2006-06-12 20:18:22 · answer #9 · answered by aplasticnation 2 · 0 0

I think it's stupid. It's clearly a violation of the first amendment. Unless the government decides to put Buddha, Allah, any other religious figures, and no god, then it shouldn't specify God to trust in.

Ally, don't forget, our nation was built on slavery. Would you like that to continue as well?

2006-06-12 20:16:02 · answer #10 · answered by holidayspice 5 · 0 0

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