for christian... in the bible it says the God had killed himself for your sin. I want to know how can God the immortal supreme kill himself. for the cathloucs the same answer. For the protestants u say if u belive in Jesus christ u go automatically in heave. so, if i was a cheater, liar, killer, murderer, etc. how can i go to heave. Jehovahs Witnesses.. In the Bible it said Jesus christ fasted... but most of you dont fast as u are supposed... plz answer these questions.
2006-06-12 12:12:01 · 14 answers · asked by Nazir A 1 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Christian Counsel on Fasting.
When Jesus was on earth he gave instruction to his disciples: “When you are fasting, stop becoming sad-faced like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces that they may appear to men to be fasting. Truly I say to you, They are having their reward in full. But you, when fasting, grease your head and wash your face, that you may appear to be fasting, not to men, but to your Father who is in secrecy; then your Father who is looking on in secrecy will repay you.” (Mt 6:16-18) He alluded here to the insincere fasting of the Pharisees, which he mentioned in an illustration on another occasion. (Lu 18:9-14) It was customary for the Pharisees to fast twice a week, on the second and fifth days of the week.—Lu 18:12.
A person’s merely abstaining from food in a formalistic manner is described by Paul as subjecting oneself to decrees, “Do not handle, nor taste, nor touch,” and he says that “those very things are, indeed, possessed of an appearance of wisdom in a self-imposed form of worship and mock humility, a severe treatment of the body; but they are of no value in combating the satisfying of the flesh.”—Col 2:20-23.
Fasting has been enjoined on their members by some religious sects of Christendom, but the Bible itself gives no command to Christians to fast. When Jesus was talking to his disciples about fasting, as above (Mt 6:16-18), he and his disciples were still under the Mosaic Law and observed the Day of Atonement and its fast.
The text about fasting at Matthew 17:21, appearing in the King James Version, is not contained in some of the most important ancient manuscripts. Likewise, although the King James Version mentions fasting at Mark 9:29, Acts 10:30, and 1 Corinthians 7:5, according to such manuscripts these texts do not contain any references to fasting.
Some have taken Matthew 9:15 as a command for Christians to fast. In reality, Jesus was merely making a statement of what was going to happen when he died. While Jesus was with his disciples on earth, it was not appropriate for them to fast. When he died, they did mourn and fast. But they had no cause for mournful fasting after his resurrection and especially after the marvelous outpouring of holy spirit. (Mr 2:18-20; Lu 5:33-35) Certainly Christians were not under obligation to fast on the anniversary of the Lord’s death, for the apostle Paul, correcting abuses in connection with the eating of supper at the congregation’s meeting place before the observance of the Lord’s Evening Meal, said: “Certainly you do have houses for eating and drinking, do you not? . . . Consequently, my brothers, when you come together to eat it [the Lord’s Evening Meal], wait for one another. If anyone is hungry, let him eat at home, that you may not come together for judgment.”—1Co 11:22, 33, 34.
While not fasting as a religious requirement, the early Christians did fast on special occasions. When Barnabas and Paul were sent on a special missionary assignment into Asia Minor, there was fasting as well as praying. Also, there was the offering of prayer “with fastings” when elders were appointed in a new congregation. (Ac 13:2, 3; 14:23) Hence, Christians are neither under command to fast nor prohibited from doing so.—Ro 14:5, 6.
2006-06-12 12:31:19 · answer #1 · answered by WannaKnowMore? 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Well, first it doesn't say that God killed himself. Secondly, you're forgetting the fact that Jesus was fully human as well as fully God- the human part of him could suffer and die just as we can, while the Divine part lived forever. And yes, if you believe and trust in Christ for your salvation, and really mean it, then you'll go to heaven no matter what you did before. Cheater, liar, murderer, rapist. . . it makes no difference. All that is washed away and forgiven, with no strings attached. He paid the price for all of it, so that you wouldn't have to. But if what you call your "faith" in Christ means that you pay absolutely no attention to what He commanded you to do, then you're a hypocrite who doesn't really believe at all. Words are nothing, if you don't even TRY to live up to what a Christian is expected to be. Jesus commanded us to be the light of the world, to love the lost and the hurting, to bless those that curse us and do good to those that hate us. Those weren't just nice suggestions- they were commandments from an almighty King. To ignore those commandments is to despise the Lord, whatever someone might say to the contrary.
2006-06-12 19:35:15 · answer #2 · answered by Billy 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
For one thing, God has no begining and no end. Jesus had a begining and an end to a fleshly life when he died on the cross or tree , or stake. When jesus came to earth in the womb of Mary he came to fullfill the law. Which meant that fasting from the mosaic law was to be done away with. These all were elementry things. Thats why some do not fast. Although If you truley believe in fasting you are not to be judged. God knows the heart and knows what a person is thinking before even said. He will help you to understand...
2006-06-12 19:21:04 · answer #3 · answered by Windwispers 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Dear Nazir *: May I say, please, that Jehovah's Witnesses are Christians. A Christian, simply put, is a follower of Christ. Witnesses of Jehovah follow Christ as head of the Christian congregation. You rightly point out that God Almighty is the Immortal Supreme One. The Bible plainly states that God cannot die. It does not say he can die under certain circumstances or in certain conditions. It does not say he can die in human form. The Bible simply states that God cannot die - that statement has no qualifications anywhere in the Bible. That being so, God did not die for the sins of man. God sent his son to do that - a heavenly son who was born a perfect human being - no more and no less.
As to fasting, it is true that Jesus fasted. But there is no command in scripture for Christians to fast. If one wishes to do so, that is perfectly fine. But there is no command to do so. If we were to follow that line of reasoning - that is to say, Jesus fasted so we should too - then why is it that we do not resurrect people from the dead? Jesus did. There is no Biblical injunction for Christians to fast.
2006-06-12 19:30:44 · answer #4 · answered by Hannah J Paul 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
This questioner mistakenly groups Jehovah's Witnesses with other, so-called "Christian" religions.
In fact, Jehovah's Witnesses do NOT teach that the Almighty died (or even COULD die), but rather that the then-mortal SON of the Almighty, Jesus, sacrificed his life for mankind.
It is true that Jehovah's Witnesses do not require fasting, but no where is fasting shown to be a requirement for true worship today. Even so, each individual is permitted to choose for himself how he will imitate bible examples of fasting.
2006-06-13 02:21:36 · answer #5 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'm a Christian and I just wanted to let you know that Jesus Christ (my Lord and Saviour) DID NOT kill himself. Man did. Read Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John, it's through out the whole Bible
2006-06-12 20:45:05 · answer #6 · answered by mcraefamily_2005 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
That is a lame response Jim very closed minded, its not amazingly Christian either.
God took human form in Jesus the Bible says, the whole point of the virgin birth, and so when he died his physical form and human nature did indeed die and are no more, but Gods own Spirit that is like God himself but gives us life rose to heaven and took Jesus spirit with it. Jesus and God and the Holy spirit are said to be the same but theoretically they are three parts comprising a whole.
2006-06-12 19:26:07 · answer #7 · answered by Zinc 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
protestants say that when you accept jesus you are gradually made more in the image of god. and they think you're automatically saved(jesus sacrafice).
all christians don't believe that jesus was god, anymore than anyone else is.
they are usually dissmissed by mainstream christians as really not being christians.
the fact is that when in the new testament jesus calls himself the son of god it isn't meant literally. it's figurative like the desciples being called the children of god or the essenes referring to each other as the sons of light in the dead sea scrolls.
2006-06-12 20:34:13 · answer #8 · answered by Stuie 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
don't worry about any religion or what they tell you you're supposed to do....just follow your heart, know that God is there..it will lead you to your own correct answers thus providing you with the perfect behaviors in whatever situation. People are generally weak when it comes to thinking for themselves....they need to be guided. God, Jesus are not in the books,...they are in your heart.
sit back, relax and read the funny and ignorant comments. It is pure entertainment, my friend. Forgive us all, God.
2006-06-12 19:20:50 · answer #9 · answered by davemg21 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
When Jesus Christ was crucified, he was fully human and humans can die. The crucial point, He was resurrected and rose from the dead. In his humanity, Jesus was flesh and blood just as we are and he felt pain, lonliness and was mocked and tortured and then killed. He gave His own life to redeem us from original sin.
2006-06-12 19:27:33 · answer #10 · answered by Mamma mia 5 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Jesus is God, however he is the second person in the trinity. The father did not die, only the son. Jesus died for our sins, not God the father.
2006-06-12 19:16:19 · answer #11 · answered by enigma21 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋