"A god could not have created a more vicious cycle if it tried: Tying the very existence of life with the necessary killing of other life is the work of an evil genius, not of an all-powerful and all-loving god"
- Vexen Crabtree
2006-06-12 09:23:17 · 18 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Are you going to teach a lion to not eat animals and grow cotton instead?
2006-06-12 09:27:24 · update #1
Nice quote.
I've actually trained lions to grow cotton. It's a pretty sweet deal. They think they have a good union, but they don't.
2006-06-12 09:36:07 · answer #1 · answered by wrathpuppet 6 · 1⤊ 2⤋
I am inclined to agree. The all powerful God would not create such a vicious cycle. But a powerful god would. The world is full of many gods and one such god is found at 2 Corinthians 4:4 and at 1John 5:19. Those identified with this god are at 2 Corinthians 11:13-15. So to answer your question: Our creator God did not purpose such viciousness to exist, but a god did and it was his choice to do so. This is found at James 1:13-15. The true God had a purpose in creating us and all other things. This will soon be realized under his Kingdom rulership by his Son Christ Jesus, this will remove the viciousness and necessary killing of other life. Then we will see in action the benefits of this rulership from an all-powerful and all-loving God. That is what I think of your quote.
2006-06-12 10:09:44 · answer #2 · answered by Tears-4Me 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Most people do not realize that when we talk of good and evil we are referring to different sides of the same coin. It just depends on where your toss lands. The book of Ezekiel tells me that God created good and evil. Call Him evil if that is how you perceive killing, call Him good if you see the survival of the fittest as part of the evolution process. Fire kills but it also cleanses The irony is that even when he engineers killing He is always doing good. The first killing in the Bible was done by God Himself. He killed an animal and used the skin to cover Adam's nakedness because Adam's solution of an apron of leaves could not last.
2006-06-12 09:42:32 · answer #3 · answered by wemimo 2 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Killing only came after man sinned
before that man didn't eat animals or animals eat animals. It is really man's fault and that we would learn what we really have done.
Isa 65:25 The wolf and the lamb shall feed together, and the lion shall eat straw like the bullock: and dust shall be the serpent's meat. They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain, saith the LORD.
2006-06-12 09:29:22 · answer #4 · answered by † PRAY † 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
I can think of much more vicious cycles (and circles) than that. Besides, killing animal life is not actually necessary.
2006-06-12 09:28:20 · answer #5 · answered by scruffy 5 · 0⤊ 1⤋
It does seem pretty stupid, unless god just doesn't care about life to begin with. Perhaps all of creation is an elaborate Rube-Goldberg machine invented for the purpose of producing styrofoam.
2006-06-12 09:30:58 · answer #6 · answered by lenny 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
I think Crabtee was an idiot, there are rules for everyone even God, and evil genius is not an appropriate way to describe God.
2006-06-12 09:27:11 · answer #7 · answered by dleeldy 3 · 0⤊ 1⤋
hey dleedy, check out these verses then get back to me:
lev 24:16 And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the Lord, shall be put to death.
num 15:33 And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
15:35 And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones
deut 3:6 And we utterly destroyed them, as we did unto Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women, and children, of every city.
2006-06-12 09:31:41 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I think he got it wrong. It's not necessary to kill to live. Just don't eat animals, and grow cotton.
Erps, I forgot the animals, lol. I was just thinking humans.
2006-06-12 09:26:00 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
How long did it take to find that one? You wasted ur time. God is loving yet chastises those he loves. Like a parent chastises their children who do wrong.
2006-06-12 09:32:24 · answer #10 · answered by Pashur 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋