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Which Gospel has the two other men on the two other crosses mocking Jesus. What happens to these two?

In the other Gospel(s) it is said that one of these two men asked for forgiveness and Jesus said that that man would be with him in paradise that day.

Did Jesus go to hell that day or to Paradise?

Was the Gospel with the guy asking for forgiveness written years after the first, why did the later gospel change the story?

2006-06-12 04:22:28 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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all the gospels were written years after the fact. i know john wrote his when he was about 60ish. people forget things or mess them up by that point in their lives.

also, since jesus had to die to that anyone could go to paradise in the first place, i imagine he went to hell and let all the people waiting there go to heaven. at least that's what the sisters used to tell us.
or was he the first guy in heaven? it's kinda sad cause then he had to leave so he could rise on sunday.

2006-06-12 04:29:09 · answer #1 · answered by Aleks 4 · 0 3

both mocked Jesus, one did ask for forgiveness, and Jesus said "tonight you will be with me in Paradise"
Paradise was a holding place for the Saints at that time because there was no way for them to enter heaven (the abode of god) because there was no remission for sin. Jesus went to Paradise and retrieved the Saints and took them to heaven.
the reason the two accounts don't match exactly but very close is because the two books were written by two different people.

for instance, if you and I watched the same movie.. then asked about the movie.. we will give pretty much the same account of the details, yet in different words, because we are different people. that's pretty much the case in the 4 gospels. all is under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, but by different people. if you look at the 4 who wrote the gospels you will see their personalities shining through.
Luke was a doctor, and his wording is much different than the others, he is more scientific, and a little more articulate. a matter of fact kinda guy!
Matthew was a tax collector, he goes more by what he sees and none of how he feels.
Mark was a fisherman, he goes by his feelings and incorporates his feelings into what he sees. and so on...
most of the gospels (if not all) were written years after Jesus had died and arose.
hope this helps some. :-)

2006-06-12 04:49:21 · answer #2 · answered by ♥Poetic1♥ 5 · 0 0

The four gospels that where written about the cross 3 of the writers were not there at the cross. But are telling on an account of others wittiness. It is like having four people at an accident on 3 different corners all witness the accident 3 on a corner one at the scene. All giving their own account of the same accident. When an officer arrives will ask all the witnesses to get a better prospective on the accident. Some say they heard one cry for help the other says he heard a cry not needing to add it was for help seeing the other did.
the other to give an account of detail while the fourth tell of what was said to him not even mentioning what else was said. As each one tells what they have seen from where they where. So is the same ways the Gospels are to be understood. Each Gospel is trying to give you a different view of who Christ is.
Sorry people are not going to like this but Jesus did NOT go to hell. the atonement was paid on the cross what else could " it is finished" mean. Jesus would have said it on His Resurrection Not on the cross.
Having descended first only means he descended to this earth as a man. Preaching to the captives where those who where in Abraham's bosom already "Paradise" hence he could say to the other man he will be with Christ.
He didn't beat up satan in hell he made a spectacle of him on the cross. "Had they have known they never would of crucified the Lord of glory".
Messenger

2006-06-12 04:49:15 · answer #3 · answered by question man 3 · 0 0

One of the men on the cross mocked Jesus, while the other told the other man to leave Jesus alone.

After Jesus died, it is believed that Jesus DID go to Hell, but to bring the Old Testament people up to the Kingdom of Heaven.

I do not know which Gospel says what, but I believe that the Gospel of Luke is the oldest (except for the Gospel of John) and Luke was a historian; so he wanted to get the facts straight.

2006-06-12 04:27:58 · answer #4 · answered by mthtchr05 5 · 0 0

Jesus went to heaven that day, and one of the men on the cross went with him. The reason is that he recognized his need for a savior. The other, to the best of our information, did not, and instead went to hell. It is possible that he repented and the event is not covered, but to our knowledge at least he didn't. There is debate as to whether Jesus went to hell for our sins, or whether he only needed to die for our sins. Jesus himself says that he went to paradise that day. We also know that the wages of sin is death, so he had to die. Since sinners are punished in hell, many people think he went to hell first and then to heaven. Purgatory is not mentioned in the canon, so it's a pretty safe bet that he didn't go there. The question remains whether he went to hell or not. I do not see scriptural evidence to suggest that Jesus went to hell, but I do see Scriptural evidence that he went to heaven. There is inductive evidence that he went to hell and then heaven, but not scriptural that I am aware of.

Matthew 27 mentions the robbers, but does not talk about the interaction between them and Jesus.

Mark 15 mentions the robbers, but also does not talk about their interaction.

Luke 23:32-42 gives an account of Jesus' interaction with the criminals, and one mocks Jesus, and the other rebukes the mocker saying that the two of them deserve their penalty, but Jesus did not. He then asks Jesus to remember him, showing that he puts his faith in Jesus for salvation.

John 19 it mentions the other two crucified, but makes no mention about their interaction.

So Luke is the only gospel that actually covers the conversation, the other three all mention the existence of the others being crucified, but don't talk about the interaction.

As for which years which gospel was written, I could not tell you which was written first without looking it up, but they were all written by men who were present at the time.

2006-06-12 04:34:31 · answer #5 · answered by GodsKnite 3 · 0 0

Jesus went to the grave -- hades. Each Gospel was written from a different point of view and emphasized different attributes of Jesus' ministry. You're going to find apparent contradictions if you're a literalist.

However, not all of us are literalists. So while you may get a lot of Bible thumpers responding in anger, remember that most of us realize the contradictions and embrace them as part of our tradition. I know it's not fun for you, but I thought the idea of Yahoo! Answers was to build a database of legitimate questions & answers, not to provide you with a playground.

2006-06-12 04:29:09 · answer #6 · answered by ohhhdan 3 · 0 0

The account of the repentant thief is in Luke 23. I know, because I taught from that passage last night. To my knowledge, all the gospel accounts that mention the event are in harmony... one thief repented and went to Paradise with Jesus, the other mocked him and went to hell.

2006-06-12 04:26:40 · answer #7 · answered by ACDixon 5 · 0 0

One of the men asked for forgiveness, and Jesus said this day will I see you in paradise. Jesus went to purgatory to take the keys of hell and death from Satan.

2006-06-12 04:34:00 · answer #8 · answered by ? 7 · 0 0

It is said that those who do wrong and ask for forgiveness...will be granted and let into God's Paradise. So, the other man who asked for forgiveness went to heaven with Jesus....as for the third man...he probably went to hell.

2006-06-12 04:27:24 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

1st. Both mocked but one later repented
2nd One went to "Paradise" the other went to?
3rd Jesus went both places
4th Not changed just completed.
(Each gospel is a individuals story on what they saw and heard and sometimes thought)

P.S. I have read my assignment have you read yours?

2006-06-12 04:30:57 · answer #10 · answered by williamzo 5 · 0 0

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