The reason Christians condemn Gay behaviour is because they're homophobic, isn't the Bible simply an excuse?

Question

"When Christians today condemn homosexual behaviour as a sin and contrary to God's purpose they invariably quote the Bible to back up their arguments. Put crudely, but I don't think unfairly, the argument goes `Homosexuality is condemned in the Bible: the Bible is the word of God: ergo, homosexual behaviour is sinful.' Actually, as I said at the beginning of this book these people are not being honest. The reason they condemn homosexual behaviour is because they are homophobic, the Bible is simply an excuse." (LGCM, Rev Neil Dawson)

"We now accept that the Bible reflects the culture and beliefs of the times it was written and of the many different people who wrote and revised it. It is an uncertain moral guide and much of its teaching and many of its attitudes, have been rejected as no longer acceptable. To suggest therefore that we can uncritically base our own standards of behaviour on the cultural attitudes of Jews in the first century of the Christian era, let alone on the attitudes of a semi nomadic people a thousand years before that, is not plausible." (LGCM, Rev. Neil Dawson)

I myself have no problem with hoimosexuality and I am not a Christian, this question aqddresses only those Christians who use the Bible highly selectively to back up their own prejudices, I'm interested in all your comments however except the obcene ones.

deckape, you are talking total nonsense and the psychiatric and psychological professions have discredited this old wives tale of contagious homosexuality, stop parading your ignorance here.

me flaps r..., see to me that actually sounds pretty hot, but I think you are disgusting mentioning it here. Imagine if I talked about men sticking their ****'s up womens ****'s and women sucking mens ****'s, see it's not nice, we can all play the bodily functions word-game and it always ends up sticky and messy...so scr** you!

Answer 1

I'd have to agree with you, except in the reverse order, Homophobes use Christianity as an excuse. Many Christians aren't Homophobes and therefore don't need to quote (often misquote) the gay references in the bible. Two very small references to Homosexuality in the old Testament are the only references that the bible makes, yet it makes references to many other things that Christians never attack and some of which most, if not all, Christians are guilty of committing. The fact is Gays are an easy target. They can point and say, "look at the sinner!" and draw the attention away from their own sins.

Answer 2

Some may very well be homophobic. However, that doesn't change the fact that God considers homosexuality a sin.
I am not homophobic and I can be friends with gay people without a problem. What's to fear? However, that doesn't change the fact that I disagree with their lifestyle.
What your argument does is create a straw man Christian argument. We are also against heterosexual relationships outside of marriage. That is sin as well. For our position on that, we are labelled judgmental. We also believe that abortion is murdering innocent children. For our position on that, we are labelled close minded right wingers. I'm waiting for the day that we are labelled murderphobic for saying it's wrong to kill innocent people.
So, I really don't care what I'm labelled as by the scoffers. I won't let their social peer pressure allow me to stray from the Word of God that I know is true.
The person who wrote that passage you pasted here, seriously misunderstands why it is important to uphold the standards of God. He is the one who is not being honest. You can't claim to serve God and then condone sinful lifestyles.
It is wrong to hate people for thier sins. So, if some Christians are doing that, they should be corrected on their behavior, not what they believe.

Answer 3

As long as you believe that the Bible was authored by men you are going to see it the way you do, but if you believed that the Bible was authored by God, as many of us do, then we can't adjust the Bible in any area. If we do then eventually the whole Bible becomes men's teachings and God is left out. If the Bible approved homosexuality we would approve it too. But it does not approve it, it condemns it and we as Bible believers are under obligation to follow its teaching. The Bible is not a representation of the culture of that time it is an eternal book that fits every culture, every time period and every human situation.

Answer 4

As another Christian who condemns the behaviour and not the person Neil Dawson states a false fact and then builds a case around it. Talk about sinking sand!
Also the second entry you put Neil says "WE" as if he is representing a large group in Christianity while actually his veiw is not accepted by the majority of mainline churchs.

http://www.christadelphia.org/pamphlet/homosex.htm

Answer 5

I was raised a Catholic but have since separated myself from any religion due to the hypocrital fighting, violence and killing of innocent people for not sharing the same views. All religion has done is caused war and death.

Now to answer your question. I dont approve of Homosexuality personally. I think its really fcuken sick! A man sticking his d*ck up another mans *ss or a man sucking another mans d*ck.

I dont have a problem with a Homosexual person personally provided they arent kissing, fondling or having sex in front of me and flaunting it.

Although I dont approve of homosexuality I feel their sexuality is not for me to judge. Thats what Judgement Day is for!

As for quoting the bible. I can remember reading about people being told to run and dont look back or they would turn to stone or be burnt up because God/Jesus was ridding the earth of the lower scum people and homosexuals. Obviously God and Jesus didnt approve of their bloke poke a bloke lifestyle neither. ;)

Answer 6

I don't agree with Christians very often but I have to agree with them on this issue because

This is with no intent to harm anyone, so please that no offense but from this try to understand why

Most gay and Lesbians are not born gay they are made (Turned Gay) and if it was done at a legal age than it is the choice of that person, but it is often that the person being turned gay is young, therefore that person was molested and I believe that is why the bible condemn it. This is a hard truth that gays and non gays do not like to admit sad as it may be.
So yes people must learn to coexist but the gay community must respect the majority of the people, because children do not need any more confusion or harm done to their minds or body. That is also why I try to keep compassionate to gays, because of how they may have been turned gay.

Answer 7

I can see that....

The christaians that I know that don't have a problem with gays and arn't homophobic in the least.... still think it's a sin, but they don't say anything about it to homosexuals and think they should be alowed to get married.

Then again... most christains I know have a really big problem with homosexuality.

Answer 8

I'm Christian. I am not homophobic. I have several friends who are homosexual. Doesn't bother me. Just because I don't PERSONALLY agree with their lifestyle doesn't mean we can't all be friends.

Answer 9

I don't know what's worse Homophobia or straight bashing. Why so concerned about "gays" and religion? Are we having an identity problem?

Answer 10

not liking someone who puts there p*nis into another man s *** is not homophobic, its knowing whats wrong, and it happens that the bible agree s, so they refer to that as written proof. ok poofta