The Ugly face of America?

Question

Islam forbids suicide, so what happened in Gitmo for the three prisoners who died and why?

I don't think those prisoners commit suicide, rather been tortured to death. The 12 year old girl whose family was murdered by Israel on Gaza beach two days ago is a good example for a candidate of a suicide bomber. Muslims are victims of blind systemic horror and terror of America and Israel and Muslims are just defending themselves; it is not Islamic terrorism, it is Islamic counter terrorism. If you don’t agree on this then show us the true data on the innocent civilians killed by Muslims and by America and Israel in the last 10 years.

see this link on BBC news opinions and compare to your sick responses:
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=2162&&edition=2&ttl=20060611171005

The good thing about this site that it shows the magnitude of hatred based on ignorance that some responders show like Scott K, now tell me if the international law really justifies the establishment of Israel on the land of others and then kill and torture them, what kind of stupid ignorant opinion is this?

Answer 1

The detainees are not charge with any crimes and yet they continue to be their in that nightmare. The detainees are in what you call a legal black whole and the only thing that can be of aid to them is strong eemaan (faith) and trust in Allaah. And yes Islaam forbids suicide but we are only getting the details from Gitmo Officials and not that of three prisoners because they are dead. But I'm sure they have left letters and they have families who really knows the truth. The Prisoners are being raped, tortured, humiliated, and the beatings are horrific, so if they did kill themselves this probably would be why. So far only 26 detainees of Gitmo have been release due their non affiliation with Al-Qaedah or even having a criminal background they were just detailed for no reason and maybe their are some who are there for 9/11 or affiliation with Al-Qaedah. I don't feel like they killed themselves rather Gitmo Officials definitely had something to do with it and even if they did help Al-Qaedah would this be humane for an individual to treat a prisoner in this matter (and most of them are American citizens of the British, Canada etc.)? Why not charge them with a crime so that they could face the death penalty if they are found guilty otherwise it just looks like the Gitmo Officials unjustly killing or torturing for the fun of it.

Answer 2

There is a very big difference between suicide bombers who die to take revenge from those who killed their families and from suicide people who kill themselves to end their suffering. The last is impossible for a Muslim and I am quite confident they were been killed under severe torture. No body knows what those criminal Americans are doing in Gitmo behind the walls. The Saudi should cut off all oil supply to America and stop importing American made cars and airplanes for killing their citizens.

Answer 3

How cna you say it is Israel's fault for these suicide bombings? Ever since Jews left Israel in the dispora, we have been continually attacked. Israel has been under constant pressure ever since its recognition in 1948/1949.

The surrounding Arab countries havent helped either. They told the Palestinians they would have Israel after the combined Syria/Lebanon/Egypt/Jordan/Iraq/Iran armies swept through the tiny country of Israel in 1948. Well no, Israel kicked promptly kicked their a$$es and went on with life..

now adays, Israel is attacked for its relationship with the Palestinians. Why should they get a land in which they have killed hundreds through terror? Why should Israel stand back and let terrorists kill innocent civilians?

Answer 4

Indeed. Ug-ly is the face of "Law worketh wrath",
which was a great "terror" to all Israel: Dt 34:12;
which as much as says Moses was a terror-ist.
So also they who sat in Moses' seat: law: Mt 23,
called hypocrites, fools, vipers, and blind guides;
and one made proselyte by them is even "worse",
called "more the child of hell(law)" than they were.

Not for the sake of accusation, nor for condemnation,
but rather for the sake of awareness & understanding,
let us consider that GWB seems to fit this description:
more the child of hell than former hypocrites and fools.

GWB: America is a nation under law... rule of law!
Bible: "ye are not under the law, but under grace".

Law was obviously the OT nameless G-d of the Jews.
But when the people of Nineveh believed God, well then,
this no name king disrobed, stepped dwn & sat in ashes.
It's "allegory" in both "covenants": Gal 4, also a "mystery".
Solving the "mystery" is via "comparing spiritual things",
for mixing old & new things results in burst, spill, perish.

And indeed, how "ignorant" it is to believe a merciful God,
notably one having "no respect of persons" whatsoever,
would say go take the land by force, and kill all who resist.
What did America do when Germany tried? They resisted.
But they have not resisted sin unto blood, if still "law" "law".
http://www.godshew.org/TwainShew4.htm#Laws

The "God of all grace" make you perfect(merciful),
after ye(do greatly err) suffer awhile in yer law law.

The "grace" of our Lord Jesus Christ with you all. Amen.

Answer 5

they hung themselves as a form of protest. Nothing more nothing less Islam might forbide Suicide. Now you explain all the suicide bombers :D

Answer 6

you are right islam does forbids suicide but the lack of faith in it and missunderstand of its teachings from the normal muslim , and some suicide bombers bomb thier selves into inicent ppl beacuse they r are angry of thier goverment or someone in thier family was killed ( son .father ,mother,sister) by its forces so they do it out of revenge and using islam as thier act THAT IS WROG islam never told to thier ppl to attack inicent people and humans ,

Answer 7

It is not the ugly face of America that caused the 3 prisoners to take their own life, it is the ugly face of hate. Hate is what causes people to strap them selves with bombs and walk into a crowed market place, hate is what causes people to burn a cross on people's front lawns, hate is what causes people to send attack dogs to defenseless prisoners, hate is what causes people to purposely fly planes into buildings, hate is what causes people to beat some one and leave them to die on a fence, hate is what causes people to behead some one, hate is what causes people to show pictures of a person who was bombed, the list can go on and on and on. The problem is their is too much hate and a lot less tolerance. It is not just in one society, not one country, and It is not just the US.

Answer 8

Sometimes you make a big statement with a suicide than by doing the time.

Answer 9

Islam forbids, and the followers of Islam disobey.

Answer 10

Ever thought of the fact that Americans might have been treating them in such an inhumane way they didnt care about Islam anymore and just wanted to end their lives AND the suffering with it?????????????????????/