I think I would be more liberal and democrat if only I could elect a pro-life canidate..
I know this is a very touchy subject but it is one that I feel to strongly about to stay quiet. Please please read..
It is not just for religious reasons that I am against it, but also for ethical reasons:
a.)While women indeed have rights to control her body, that right has limits (like all rights).
b.)Biologically, the fetus is not part of her body.
a.)No child should ever feel unwanted.
b.)In my country (USA) thousands of married couples would love to adopt a new-born infant.
a.)There should be opposition to the conditions that lead to abortion, not to the baby.
b.)Discrimination to women in the work force, poverty, lack of adequate health care and child care.
*In order to take a stand against abortion, we must take a stand against the conditions that lead into it.
However, do you remember a time you wanted to stand up for the voiceless? Like the poor, or discriminated people. Well who is more voiceless than a fetus?
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I am definately pro-life. I might not of been here today if my mom had an abortion, and beautiful people like Bono or Martin Luther King Jr. could have been aborted. When a fetus is terminated, (as hard as it is to realize, it is very sad) we risk someone who could of made a beautiful impact in this world, and someone who could help lead this world more into one of peace and tolerance.
2006-06-09
20:23:35
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I live in southern CA where most people are democrat, and pro-choice. I wish, we were more pro-life though because it is something that I feel so strong about. I used to think I was republican because I was pro-life, but I like liberalism, I just don't think it's a right to kill something, let alone something voiceless and innocent :[
2006-06-09
20:33:58 ·
update #1
I don't agree with some of the answers I'm getting... a fetus is not even close to a parasite, you were a fetus once. And yes, (how did you guess)? I was never raped or anything like that, but how is the baby better off dead? Is that for the mother's sake or the baby's? I think some people don't understand that a fetus is VERY important... not just some cells we cannot see. THERE IS ALWAYS ADOPTION PEOPLE! And if you're worried the baby will get in a bad family, that's unlikely because agencies have to go through a lot of paper work before they let someone adopt, and I'm sure social services is there to check up on them. I do not think it is a women's rite to abort another life, I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings, but this is the harsh truth.
2006-06-09
20:46:02 ·
update #2
Ok, someone just said pro-life is an oxymoron because we are for the death penalty and war! That's ridiculous! I'm very anti war, and I am also against the death penalty, I think any killing should be forbidden.. yikes I can't believe he said that.
2006-06-09
21:15:53 ·
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They're not pro-choice. They're pro-abortion. Ask them if they support a man's right to choose and see what kind of faces they make.
2006-06-10 04:03:22
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answered by Anonymous
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I understand some of your arguments, even though I´m pro choice. As a matter of fact I don't know if I would use that term in connection with abortion. You are right, freedom has its limitations and the baby is a seperate entity. My concern is for the child, when it grows up with a parent/parents that didn't want it in the first place. Then adopt, you will say. But I think it's pretty rough on a women to have to go through a pregnancy and labour to give her child away to someone else. Then keep it you'll say. But life is not that simple. A pregnancy will almost always make you feel a connection with the child, even though you're not equipped to take care of it after it's born. There is always a good reason why a woman chooses to have an abortion. Anyway a foetus of less than 3 months old is not a child, it is...a foetus, a potential for life. I've had an abortion and I didn't feel guilty because i didn't feel I was carrying a whole human being, but the potential for one. And speaking of potentials, you say that beautiful people could have been aborted, but they could just as well have been nasty people. The way we turn out has to do with the way we were brought up. And no, we wouldn't be here if our mothers had aborted us. But we wouldn't know. The foetus doesn't know if it has a right to live or not.
2006-06-09 21:10:36
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answered by Lotte T 3
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It's great you have this belief. I guess you have never been the poor woman with an unwanted pregnancy. It is easy to stand up for something when it doesn't effect you directly. Perhaps we should go back to the catholic church belief and ban all contraception as well? The funny thing is women have fought for generations to obtain rights and now some smart men have figured a way to put them right back in the kitchen barefoot and pregnant. The sad thing is a lot of women are too naive to see this. Personally I don't believe in 2nd or 3rd trimester abortions except to save a mother's life. But in the first trimester there is little that can be called genuinely alive. I know I'll open a can of worms with that remark. The idea is whose life is more important? The unborn fetus or the woman who has to bear it. You can say the fetus but in doing so you are pushing women back to the 19th century. I am betting that you are one of the religious right who can not be argued with logic or reason. Such as those screaming at women who are making gut wrenching decisions or firebombing abortion clinics and calling them baby murderers. Hopefully you will never become pregnant with a child that you are not ready for. As far as adoption goes look up the actual numbers. More women have suffered from depression and suicide giving up a child than by having an abortion. Oh, also because this is America.
2006-06-09 20:37:54
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answered by Anonymous
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Aside from suicide, what would you say are the legal limits of the rights to control one's body? None.
To follow your thinking, if a fetus is not biologically part of the body, then it's a parasite. Or are women just incubators?
No child should feel unwanted. Granted. So why force women to have an unwanted child? And don't say adoption is an option for everyone. People only want pretty, healthy, white babies.
I agree we must take a stand against the conditions that lead to abortion, such as lack of REAL information about, and access to, contraceptives. People are going to have sex. Preaching abstinence is no solution; remember just say no to drugs?
Abortion should be legal, safe, and rare. The government should not be inserting itself into a decision that is private, and between a woman and her doctor.
2006-06-09 20:37:53
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answered by Anonymous
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a.) What limits are you speaking of, exactly? I understand that freedom of speech comes with the responsibility not to yell "FIRE!" in a crowded theatre, but in order to address this, you must be more specific about the limits that are to be imposed on a woman's rights over her very own body.
b.) Biologically, a leech is not part of your body. Does that mean that a person does not have the right to remove a leech from their body?
a.) I agree. So why bring such a child into the world in the first place? A heartless point, but a valid one.
b.) I have no objection. However, you are still asking to hijack a woman's body and life for 9 months so that the result can benefit others. While it would be a good and virtuous thing to do, it is not for us to demand that a woman do it.
a.) I agree, we have a lot to fight against. Ignorance, underuse of contraception, unsupportive relationships. Abortion really ought to be a last-resort. But it ought to be an _available_ last resort.
b.) Let's fight these together!
In any case, when science is allowed to progress to a point when we can transfer a fetus from one mother to another safely, then we can worry about saving the lives of the unborn children. For now, we cannot justify compromising essential liberties to secure a little temporary safety for a small number of individuals.
2006-06-09 20:36:45
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answered by Anonymous
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a) Biologically, the fetus IS part of her body... they are connected via umbilical cord. The fetus CANNOT survive without this vital connection, thus it depends upon the mother for life.
b) It is expensive and difficult to adopt. If people like you would work to make it easier and cheaper to adopt, then more people like me would find it to be an acceptable and reasonable alternative. Until that point, you cannot force all of these children to just "arrive" without proper care channels in place. These care channels should NOT rely on federal or state tax dollars, as it is not the responsibility of the state to care for other peoples mistakes.
c) There are oppositions to the conditions that lead to abortion. Conservatives do everything possible to stop them in their tracks. Cons rail against sexual education in school, demand that contraception not be available, and attempt to force their religious beliefs regarding sex, life, and contraception on the rest of the population. Cons are a twisted group; they are the only ones still exhibiting an ounce of shame and values but they are also the only ones perpetuating the problem.
As for the lack of health and child care, well, it isn't the responsibility of the federal government to provide either of these items.
No where in here do you mention working on the CAUSE of the serious problem... our society is seriously ill becuase of a complete downfall in morals and shame. Better than asking why some people are "pro-choice", ask why people think it is acceptable to be "pro-choice" in the first place. We now live in a society where anything goes and no one is made to feel "bad" about their choices. It is fine to be gay, hop between sexual partners, dress like a hooker, get married and divorced again and again. It is fine to be pregnant at 13, have five kids by 20, and live on welfare your whole life. If we as a society would start to say again that this is not acceptable, then you'll start curbing the problem.
2006-06-10 01:28:23
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answered by Anonymous
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The poor are alive and people don't stand up for them either.
Pro-life is an oxymoron. They are really anti abortion. They are for the death penalty and having our troops murdered for oil!
What rights are limited? Biologically the fetus is not part of her body? That is really news to me!! Then why are you against her making a choice in removing it? Actually it fits the definition of a parasite!
Women aren't baby factories for the wealth and most women are young, many are children themselves, and they don't give it up for adoption and all off you want them to have the child but won't support it!
Start supporting children's programs, pay for their medical and their education, then come back! And I am positive that will never happen!
They aren't. Well read the definition:
Definition of Parasite
Parasite: An organism that lives in or on and takes its nourishment from another organism. A parasite cannot live independently.
What part don't they fit?
Well you are one of the few. Didn't one of your ilk murder an MD in Florida?
2006-06-09 21:11:22
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answered by cantcu 7
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You'd think differently if you were in a situation where abortion is the only clear answer. I used to be pro life, but in 1999 I was raped by my brother's best friend, and I got pregnant. Living 9 months with a CONSTANT reminder of what happened would've made it impossible for me to deal with. I would've committed suicide if I carried the baby to term. I would never do it under other circumstances. I have two little boys today, one born out of wedlock, and still carried to term after the father left me. Imagine how you'd feel if you became pregnant from a rape. Can you honestly say you'd be able to carry the baby to term? I'm sure you're thinking "Yeah, because there's always adoption after delivery." But unless you've been raped, you can't fully understand what it does to a woman. The state of mind you're in, just isn't healthy for the baby or for you. You sink into a depression, and if pregnant, it's ten times harder to face what happened, and try to heal yourself. So you need to think of other cases in which abortion occurs before you start your preaching. Not all abortions are because someone just doesn't want the baby.
It's sad that there's still narrowminded pinheads like you in this world. Obviously most people are disagreeing with you...not what you expected huh. In case you haven't noticed, it's the 21st century. It's sad when women of the past fought so we'd have equal rights as men, and there's women like you out in the world who are trying to take 10 steps back rather than one step forward. You might want to do some research on abortion, and how within the first three months it's a fetus, not a baby. It doesn't have functioning parts, and is in fact a parasite. And it shows how much you know about adoption agencies. My best friend is adopted and his parents treated him like sh*t compared to his brother and sister. Yeah there's the lucky ones who are placed in homes, but there's ones born with abnormalities, and are mentally retarded that no one wants. These kids grow up feeling totally unwanted. I went to school with a girl who even by graduation was going from foster home to foster home because they couldn't find her a home...all because she was blind.
2006-06-09 20:36:28
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answered by Anonymous
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The same reason why people were pro slavery. A fetus isn't a person just like a "n*gger" wasn't a person. It really disgusts me when people use abortion as a form of birth control. A baby dies simply because a couple of people wouldn't wait until they were married to have sex, you know, the kind of people who call promiscuity "sexual freedom". Sure there's situations of rape, but how often is that the case? I know I may sound like a judgemental b*tch, but it's the cold hard truth and it's time that people stop deluding themselves and wake up.
2006-06-09 20:56:10
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answered by Anonymous
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Unfortunately people think they need to have an abortion because it is most convenient. People argue that abortion is a right. Unfortunately rights seem to have taken precedence over responsibility. Both are on par. If you can't take responsibility, why should you be upset if your rights are lowered also.
Do people have the right to do what they like with their body? Sure they have the right to smoke and drink excessively, but they are unable to take responsibility for the consequences it brings.
2006-06-09 20:30:09
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answered by Scozbo 5
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It's not "Why are some people Pro-Choice" - It is "Why is the Majority Pro-Choice".
It is because we value the health and well being of the Mother above the life of the Fetus.
Most anti-abortionists are Republicans who love to see the Poor suffer.
2006-06-10 01:26:47
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answered by fatsausage 7
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