For all Indians-do you think reservation is a clever way to manage discrimination?

Answer 1

Nothing is bad or good in its own stead. It is the way it is used, implemented and taken up which makes it bad or good. In India reservation was and is used to please some people and get quick votes, be it SC&ST provisions in constitution which was original for 15 years or implementation of Mandal commission after years of lying in bag. There are many aspects of reservation. It is fact there are some strata of society who need support to rise from their current status of poverty or backwardness.

However there is opposition for reservation because the benefit of it are not going to actual people rather they are taken up by some people of these society who are already in up class are taking up these benefits whereas actual needy people are still at the same place. No one will object if a really needy get the benefit, You and all are furious since it is someone who is not needy who is reaping benefit.

As far as making economic condition as criteria is concerned, there is always good and bad of all thoughts. Good about this will be that this should be the correct way of deciding giving help however there are too many lacuna in this as getting certificate for economic background is very easy to get since no one file income tax return and there no proof of incomes for people other than salaried people so what will happen ultimately is again people who do not deserve the benefit will get it and needy will remain eluded with this.
I agree that when it comes to job then what we need is competent people in jobs to provide proper service and let our country grow. It is wrong to say the people who need help to rise first time are not competent but what is required is that we bring them up and educate and train them so that they are competent enough to take up the challenges. Now if we talk about getting a doctor without enough skills. This is often repeated example but what we fail to understand that a person cannot be a doctor just by getting admission in medical college. S/he became doctor after passing out from the college. If we say that college examination system is such that they will pass person without knowledge then problem does not lie in reservation in admission but in examination system which required to be looked into. Having said that if education system is not good and it will allow person without skill to get the degree then what is guarantee that a person who has come by other route let us by paying higher fees or something and for that matter what is guarantee that a person who have scored 90+ marks is good in medical study. So then we are running risk of many doctors without skills operating on us. So this argument that if the person has come with reservation will be not competent doctor is not correct. If a person has passed MBBS (s/he can be anyone reserve one or other) and do not know how to use scalpel and then we should hung all the teachers who have taught them, people who have set the papers and all the examiners who has taken their practical exams and checker who checked their examination papers.

So mantra for anything to be good and successful is honest implementation of the same.

Answer 2

There can be no way to "cleverly" manage discrimination . Discrimination in any manner shows up sooner or later quite obviously ! Discrimination is a sacred term, and if properly understood and applied, does good and good only. Perhaps that is why, the so called discrimination withstood for centuries in India. Discrimination need not cause social injustice. For that matter, today even the term 'social injustice' is looked at and understood unfortunately in its narrowest sense. The reason for such outlook is that the process and content of modern Indian mind is shaped after 'commercial' values. A couple of centuries ago, commercial thoughts were just below 5 % (simply because, the currency was less and things that could be ONLY PURCHASED were also further less !). Today, most of our thoughts are 99.9% commercial (this is globally applicable, not just India alone!).
So, this one great unavoidable consequence of modernisation, the thoughts becoming more and more commercial, has caused havoc... Social values, joint family bonds, true love and affection between related persons friends etc have eroded. All this has caused the revolt and cry for the need for 'reservation'. And sheer majority, by number game(rather than intellectual minority) has attempted to 'decide' or even decided what constitutes discrimination. Now discrimination is measured by only possessing the means to power and money. With such eroded values, whichever way you look at things, solutions will not hold.
Only a re-look at basic values and strengthening the roots of such 'discriminated' class can really be a solution and not merely trying to "reserve" something indiscriminately" at the top level where only 'benefits' are to be given out irrespective of deserving it !

Answer 3

Clever as in a good idea, like, to keep them holed up somewhere? Yeah, I'm sure it's somebody's clever idea.

Is it right? Not at all. How do you think the general public would feel if they owned a farm and were told they had to give up most of their land. The best, most fruitful part of it. Then, were forced to live on the one little corner where nothing ever grew to begin with.

Oh, yeah, and while you took away their farm, you stole their kids and sterilized their women?

Yeah, but I don't think it has anything to do with discrimination... ::eyeroll::

Answer 4

Been there. Hopi and Zuni Reservations, a long time in the past. Papa used to be a instructor running for the Bureau of Indian Affairs. You wanna inform me what it is like being a minority? I used to be one among 2 non-Native boys in Orabi and the ONLY non-Native boy in Zuni. Bet'cha you'll be able to think the thrill the opposite boys had with me! No, regularly it used to be truthfully little specific than once we eventually moved again to "white nation"...but if y'ticked anyone off, you quite found out what it is love to be "the opposite". Yo! You are not able to return and difference what occurred 100 and extra years in the past. You can confront what is taking place at present. That's in which your energies will have to move. Look, if y'acquired into school, you are vibrant adequate to head on, get a measure, and return dwelling to turn out to be a stand-out chief. Others have, so why now not you? Fellow through the title of Ray Halbritter - an Oneida - went directly to legislation university regardless of enormous quantities of years of oppression and positioned-downs, and now he is the elected chief of the Oneidas. Under his management, the Nation has turn out to be a amazing drive to manage in upstate New York, in which the foremost organization of Ondeida is situated. I've met Halbritter and heard him talk. He's no superman, however niether is he a idiot. And beneath his management, the Oneida have controlled to redress a nice many a while-historic greviances with the State of New York and the Federal Government. No, they have got now not completed all they needed, however residing at the beyond and getting all grumpy and discouraged while you come upon existence's difficult spots is a friggin' waste of time. I might sit down right here and gripe approximately how my Irish ancestor used to be dealt with through different white people whilst he immigrated right here, however what might be the factor - I can not return and whup their behinds for 'em, now can I? That used to be like, greater than seven generations in the past... Hey, guy, you are some of the best: y'proved it through entering university within the first situation. Keep on maintaining on - kick a*s*S and take names! You'll make it! And your loved ones and your country - local and non-local alike - would be the larger 'reason you're right here.

Answer 5

(I am not an American Indian)

You could call it what ever you want but the fact remains that the White man stole 99% of the land and then told the Indians where they could live. It was never any place hospitable either...

Answer 6

I'm not an Indian, I'm closer to a jew, actually, and I still think reservations are a travisty. A token gesture, in otherwords.

Answer 7

i think its been a good way to push us under a rug ,to shut us up....you have no idea...none.

Answer 8

Is this a loaded question or what?

Answer 9

no it just isolate u