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They really messed up the story line in xmen and they did not put Gambit in the movie.

2006-06-09 09:30:41 · 8 answers · asked by D. A. 1 in Entertainment & Music Movies

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I thought it was entertaining. I didn't like the ending, I thought it was inconsistent. I guess I'm not a true x-men fan because I don't know who Gambit is...

2006-06-09 09:33:56 · answer #1 · answered by keri gee 6 · 0 0

it was alright, x2 was better, but i did like the mutants they brought in for this. the story line was messed up. they mixed the dark phoenix saga with something that resembles the house of m. killing scott was not their fault, marsden left during filming to be in Singer's Superman movie. angel was hyped up to much in the previews, he was barely in the movie. the lack of gambit sucked too, but he's suppose to be getting his own movie, same with wolverine and magneto. and, since prof. x didnt really die (you had to stay after the credits to see how) they could make another one. depends on what the story is. people die and come back to life all the time in the xmen comics...

2006-06-09 17:35:34 · answer #2 · answered by deathblooms7894 5 · 0 0

The franchise took a step back to those 80's campy superhero movies. The characters were one demensioal, uninteresting, the acting was no hear beleivable. Come Mutants dissapeared from 3 that were in others. They killed off three- MAIN Characters.

How the hell does professor X and Cyclops Die.

I figure Jean Could make a return since she died as the dark pheonix. in speaking of this character, I think there are three parts to the character not two, and what about the relation of Juggernaught and Prof X.

This film lost it for me. I'm not sure if I would see another X-Men film since this one was so disappointing.

2006-06-09 17:21:27 · answer #3 · answered by cisco_cantu 6 · 0 0

It could of been better, i wasnt satisfied with this one as much as the last one.and yes, whats xmen without Gambit.

2006-06-09 16:34:13 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I agree!!!

What happened to night crawler? How about Rogue & Mystiques' past history? Where the hell is gambit?? Where is little Jubilee? How about Polaris & Havok?

If you know wolverine's history... his adamantium was taken off his body by Magneto!!!

One more thing... who the hell had the idea to have Cyclops & the Professor killed!!!!!!!!!!!!

2006-06-09 18:03:43 · answer #5 · answered by Chino 3 · 0 0

It definitely could've been better. The action itself was fine, but the characters seemed like they lacked any significant depth.

2006-06-09 16:34:12 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I agree dood! I had a lot of expectancy but was sadly disappointed by all three! At least they finally brought Beast into the picture! Cool Question! Thanks!

2006-06-09 16:34:54 · answer #7 · answered by Pctbass 2 · 0 0

Now, usually, when I go to a movie theater to watch a film adaptation of a story based on a book or comics I’ve read very well, I tend to anticipate that the movie would present what I’ve already read and known from the source materials. As usual, I had my share of “illusory disappointments” after watching X-Men 3: The Last Stand--disappointments plainly because not all that I anticipated was what I had seen; illusory because most of my disappointments were merely due to my wrong impressions. Like its precursors, I believed that there was much to be advocated after watching this film. I was kind of upset that the filmmakers did not fully incorporate the stories from the comics as much as possible. For example, in the comics, Iceman was a playboy and jovial person, but he wasn't like that at all in the movie. In the comics, Rogue was a tough girl, but in the movie, she was weak. But despite the upset, I do not hastily declare that I hate the movie already at this point. Also, this movie was not what I had expected in terms of speed and duration: I noticed that the pacing was quite faster and the length was quite shorter than I would’ve wanted. I noticed that there were several rushed scenes. The filmmakers have introduced quite a number of sub-plots and then just abandoned some of them along the way. I thought that this work of art tried to cram so many characters and sub-plots into one movie that by providing too much, I was left wanting more. But still, I don’t say that I hate the movie at this point. Then, as a faithful follower of the Marvel comics and original cartoon series, I was disappointed at the way the filmmakers killed off so many characters. I have nothing against death, it’s a natural phenomenon; and yes, I understand that it was very important to add in new characters to the new episode. But in my view, killing off great characters without exploring their multi-dimensional facets is kind of a waste--the moviemakers might as well not introduce such characters at all. For example, they didn’t even give much visualization and justification as to Cyclops’ demise. I was actually willing to sit for another hour because I felt that the story was not yet finished: there was not enough screen time and there was so much left hanging. This is the ultimate reason why when it comes to watching open-ended “final” episode type of movies, I tend to always make the assertion that this is not the end… that there’d be one or more movies to come in the future… that there’s still going to be a continuation despite movie actors or directors saying that a particular movie would be the final installment. But as of now, none of my predictions have materialized. But I know in one way or another, I would be vindicated. I also tend to make extrapolations about what had happened in the movie that I’ve just finished watching, as well as to generate a lot of assumptions about what would possibly happen in the impending follow-up movie. With this movie, I had a lot to think about, judging that I knew the comic-book story of the X-Men and have followed the animated TV series version of the X-Men. Cyclops isn't really dead; Professor X is alive; and Jean Grey would be reawakened once more, only this time not as the Dark Phoenix, but plainly as the Phoenix (there’s a good Phoenix and the bad Phoenix was already obliterated). Also, people like Magneto, Mystique, and Rouge who all got injected with the cure will regain their powers after some time. Why? Because I still maintain that this ‘cure’ is not permanent, therefore, it is not really befitting to call the formula a cure or to call the injected mutants as cured. What makes me so positive about these assumptions? Well, it’s hard to explain, but believe me, I still do not hate the movie because it seemed unfinished. Then, although I was awed by a few memorable special effects and action sequences (such as the scene where Wolverine was moving across the wreckage towards Jean Grey while being torn almost skin-deep apart by the wrath of the Dark Phoenix; the Golden Gate Bridge scene with Magneto where the famous bridge got deracinated from where it was originally plunked and ended up being displaced onto the borders of the Alcatraz Island; Magneto’s assault on the Alcatraz prisoners convoy; and the bloodcurdling scene where Professor X was vaporized by the Dark Phoenix), I still think that not all the special computer graphics and visual effects were that mind-blowing or that the action sequences weren’t that entirely stupefying either. But I still don’t hate the movie, and I know it’s weird.
But looking more closely, for a film that runs for an average of about two hours of watching, I realized that I had been setting very high expectations. I realized that making a live-action movie is different from drawing animated comics. If I read all the X-Men comics that come out once every month for several long years, the pacing and duration disappointment I was talking about would be solved. There’d be plenty of room available to explore the characters and develop the plot. And, filmmaking costs not just millions of dollars but billions of dollars. Also, I doubt if there’s any filmviewer who would sit through a 20-hour long film. If only comic-book fans like myself were to take this movie as a separate continuity from the comic-book series which has awfully become the yardstick of quality set by most comic-book readers like myself, this movie would be ruddy amazing. I realized that one can’t make a movie adaptation under the assumption that everyone has read the comics or books from which the movie was based upon. First of all, a movie crafted to fully appeal only to the X-Men comic-book fanbase would not be a market success, because this fanbase is usually outnumbered by the mainstream. This sequel was made to appeal to everyone, not just to the few. Second, I realized that making a comics-inspired movie is not entirely about following the original storyline according to the Marvel comic-books, but it’s about staying truthful and loyal to the original source while at the same time adding a few more innovations. Third, it’s not the fulfillment of the “fanatical comics standards” that purely matters the most, but rather, the filmviewer’s processing of facts and ideas is most important. After all, what do I need character development for? If I were a true avid supporter of the X-Men comic-book series as I say I am, I should already know everything I want to know about the characters. No one needs to be an expert on the X-Men to get what the movie was trying to impart, isn’t it true?

So, regarding this artwork, I found out that my realization that The Last Stand had a lot of depth was crucial to my judgment. The Last Stand was pressing quite a number of really profound concerns that are much more important to me than anything else. At this point, I realized that I like the movie very much. This movie was very thought-provoking and had several intriguing themes; and I realized that I felt more empathy and other emotions while watching this film than I did with the earlier movies in the series. It was not far from shattering that fine line between reality and fantasy. The previous two X-Men movies focused on two intertwined topics: the issue of trying to fit in with a society that treats mutants as strange screwballs that should be ostracized and scorned, as well as the issue of accepting and properly using one’s unique potentials. Well, okay, I’ve had my share of dealing with issues of how to get along well with people around me, but that was not really much of a problem for me. The Last Stand on the other hand posed another set of intertwined imperatives that I felt were heavier. The film was able to subliminally raise several moral and ethical questions thru allegories for racism, human rights violation, brotherhood, loyalty, and etcetera. Also in the first X-Men movie, Magneto threatened to turn unwilling and condemnatory humans into mutants as an ill-advised means of coping with being a loathed minority. In the third movie however, humans were surprisingly the ones who threatened to turn unwilling and unruly mutants into humans. Along with that, mutants also had to struggle with the issues of whether or not they should decide to become like everyone else so that they could fit in or improve their lives, and whether or not they should all be forced to undergo such change. When the scientific breakthrough was hurriedly announced on national TV by the aforementioned pharmaceutical company even without the consensus of the branch of the US Government that deals with mutant rights and representation, it was publicized as the promising ‘cure’ and answer to every mutant’s wish of becoming normal. But since when have mutants become abnormal? This was precisely the line of questioning adopted by most of the X-Men aside from me. It was not hard for me to realize that the extraordinary characters depicted in the film were not mere comic-book superheroes or weird mutants: they were also human beings, with strength but also coupled with weaknesses, with great powers but also with a loving and feeling heart. They’re just like me and you, only that there was more icing on the cake. The mutants were coupled with a different type of talents and potentials, but deep inside me and you, there’s also a talent and a potential (even more possibly talents and potentials), we just have to discover them, hone them, and use them wisely. But another point-of-view comes from Beast, who remarked, “Is it cowardice to wish to save one's self from persecution? Not all of us can fit in easily.” When Storm insisted that being a mutant was nothing to be ashamed of, Beast nonchalantly blurted out, “My dear, you don't shed on the furniture.” Yes that was a good punchline there, but seriously if I were a mutant, I really wouldn’t easily know how to face the dilemma. Granted that I were a mutant and suddenly this cure did come out, would I want it? Should I retain my rare special abilities that have alienated me from the normal human society, or should I give up my mutant powers and take the cure to become fully Homo sapiens? What if I had the chance to be not different and discriminated against anymore, would I seize it or would I bypass it and instead remain happy with the way I am? Does anyone have a right to force me to become something or someone I don’t want to be? Well, I guess my answers to such queries would depend on the circumstances and the kind of powers I had. But since I’m not a mutant, I’m comfortable with my life and with myself, and I’m not experiencing any form of discrimination anyway, I would surely say no to such an opportunity to be transformed. But linking this predicament to a real-world situation, I can’t help but be reminded of the movie Amistad wherein the African natives were held slaves, denied human rights, and mocked by the white-skinned people. I know for sure that if I were to be among them, punished like hell on earth for a sin I did not make, I’d wish hard for a chance to have blue eyes, blonde hair, and rosy-white complexion. I’d definitely clamor for a cure. Nevertheless, such a discovery was bound to alter the course of human history in several ways. That breakthrough cure was no doubt a humorless threat to the course of human living. What if everyone wanted to change themselves just to serve a selfish or a devious purpose?
There was also another particular scene that made me ponder about a serious issue, especially because it reminded me of two things: a quote from my favorite fantasy book series, and the recent passing away of my grandfather. In The Last Stand, Wolverine stabbed Jean Grey. Although Wolverine had the will to summon the old Jean Grey back from within, and that his unique ability to heal any physical wound or pain kept him alive so that he made it through the wrath of the Dark Phoenix, in the end, Wolverine accepted that it was only by tearing down the body of Jean that the mighty Dark Phoenix could be exterminated and that there was no other way for Jean to regain her old self except for a second reincarnation. Truly, as one line in the Harry Potter books said, neither could live while the other survives. On another note, the scene also made me reflect about the issue of choosing to kill the one you love so that a better purpose could be served. Just the other week my grandfather died, and I’ve been exploring matters such as why so soon and should I feel happy or morose. I had my share of the shoulda-woulda-coulda’s. What if I were beside my dying grandfather inside the hospital and he asked me to detach the artificial respirator from his nose, would I do it, would I allow my grandfather to die? Would I kill him, just as Wolverine had stabbed Jean Grey? But what if my grandfather wanted to die so that his painful ordeal would finally end, would I be strong enough to grant him his request? Am I going to be guilty of euthanasia and could I stand my conscience bugging me? And the worries press on. But I’m certain that for as long as there’s still a means to keep any of my loved ones alive, I’d never let them die. Unlike in the fantasy world of the X-Men, I couldn’t just slay my loved ones in real life-death situations and then wait for them to be reincarnated.

Weighing the pros and cons more objectively, I have concluded that this movie was aptly crafted in such a way that it would please both the fans of the X-Men comic-and-cartoon franchise as well as those who have only seen the movies without previous knowledge. Avid supporters and followers of the X-Men movie series who were not knowledgeable about the comic-book storyline won’t walk home wanting their money back. I realized that within this almost two-hour long X-Men movie, the filmmakers were still able to explain the vital aspects of all characters and were still able to make an exciting action movie so that people won't be bored. Despite what I initially thought was a letdown on pacing and character development, I found the setting (such as the fight in Alcatraz Island, which, by the way, was absolutely the perfect location I envision for the screenplay to set up the climactic face-off between the X-Men and The Brotherhood) and the message very appropriate. The Last Stand provided the catharsis and the rush that a viewer needs to experience in order to say that indeed, this movie was an X-Men movie. It was a very entertaining movie, with the emotional highs and lows, all of which were very enthralling. It may have been short but I had experienced lots of hilarious moments and tear-jerking seconds, too. I believe it is essential for me to stress that the movie guaranteed a feast of deep-absorbed emotions. There was a sense of seriousness in this movie that was quite compelling. It offered a buffet of issues to reflect upon, but instead of elaborating these issues through a great deal of pointless dialogue, the film resolved matters through sequences of meaningful action and events. Truly, actions speak louder than words. In the end, I was left with the impression that I had watched not only a very exciting and gripping movie, but also a work of art with so much creative intention and moral purposes. Beneath all my cognitive dissonances, I believe that this movie effectively captured the basic implications of the entire X-Men story: all of humanity must peacefully coexist regardless of each of our differences, and, with great power comes great responsibility. Other important questions were how far am I willing to go just to avoid being unjustly treated by a narrow-minded majority, and would I take a stand and cling tighter to the things that make me distinct from the rest despite ostracism and pressure, or would I concede to societal norms? Or in simpler words, would I take the cure or not? And then, reflecting on my process of reacting to this particular artwork, I noticed that I tend to point out the discrepancies between what I had anticipated and with what I actually saw onscreen first before I make a superfluity of judgments. Also, I found out that I tend to notice if a movie is either too quick-paced or too dragging, if a movie is either too long or too abrupt, if a movie has great visual and sound effects, if a movie has great action sequences or not, and if a movie has a good moral or not. I also found out that after pointing the elements that disappoint me, I still do not conclude whether I like the movie or not; but rather, I still wait to see more of the events unfold and continue making criticisms. Only after analyzing and discovering the various lessons integrated in it do I conclude whether I like or hate a movie.

Summing it all up, X-Men 3: The Last Stand was a great movie which, I believe, would keep other people clenching tight to their seats without being jaded. My final word to the makers of The Last Stand would be that you all did an excellent job of coming up with such a movie. Of course, there is always room for improvement; but then, I still deem this film as the best interpretation of the X-Men story yet. I would have to say that I couldn’t have done it better myself! To myself: a pat on the back for your evaluation of this artwork. And to the rest of the comic-book fanatics: you guys should open your horizons wider and accept that comic-books and movies are two different media.

2006-06-16 12:17:34 · answer #8 · answered by fortminor17 2 · 0 0

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