Do you belive you can still go to heaven by being with the same sex?

Answer 1

I find it hard to believe God made so many different people and only one way to worship Him. Faith is great, religion sucks. Faith can move mountains, religion kills people. Hell is on earth.
Religion is for those who believe in hell, Spirituality is for those who have already been there.

Answer 2

What I think you are really asking is whether or not I think same sex relationships and intercourse are sinful. The answer is no, I don't. The only people who might think that are those who are greatly in awe of and consider divine an ancient book of sriptures -- any ancient book of scriptures.

For my purposes, let's use the Bible -- I'm an American, so normally if I hear an argument on this, its the Bible that is used. The Bible is, while a very nice book that is the basis (in one form or another) the basis of the three great monotheistic faiths of the West -- actually a book of myths, and some of them are pretty horrid myths.

The earth is not flat, it does not have corners, and it is not established on pillars. Beetles do not have four legs, they have six. Rabbits do not chew their cuds, they have none. Ai and Jericho were both abandoned when the Israelites came to them and Jericho NEVER was walled. Oddly, though a million Jews (more or less) marched around the wilderness for 40 years and ALL died there, we cannot find a single skeleton from the march, even though we have found the remains of tribes of 200 non-semites in the same area. Pi really DOES work, and a perfectly round pool cannot be made that uses a pi of 3.0 rather than 3.14 -- it would leak through a gap in the side.

The god of the old testament, almost certainly either a rendition of one of the great Annunaki of the Sumerians or of Ra of the Egyptians, is a monster who cannot possibly deserve worship, even if real. He accepts human sacrifice, demands genocides, and wipes the faces of his priests with dung. He is, in very real terms, anthropomorphic, having a palace on top of the firmament (the dome covering the earth) where he keeps snow and hail "against the time of troubles" (war???) [If you want to read up on this type of thing, there is a fair list on the site I maintain. Go to www.rebuff.org and read the three pages under bible on the left hand menu.]

The short version of what I am saying is -- its myth. Fairy stories, like Grimm's and like Santa Claus. Furthermore, Christianity, despite what you have been told, was not HISTORICALLY based on the Bible as you know it. The canon was not established universally in anything resembling a form you would recognize until the Council of Carthage, hundreds of years after Christ. The early church had 40 gospels, but no one church had more than one book or maybe a very few. Often a gospel, or a letter -- or sometimes nothing at all. Different bishops wrote different canons, just as they had different theologies (gnostic/anti-gnostic for example). The Council of Nice (Nicea) established the creed by vote, and many things (trinity) won by only one or two votes. Divine inspiration? Not unless you count assasination, quite a few occurred connected to Nice and to Carthage.

The idea that the Bible is infallible is no different from the idea the Pope is, and it is even newer.

So, should you be concerned? No! Hell is not in the future of you or your gay friends. If you want an accepting and receiving Christian community to belong to then, if you are protestant, look for a United Church of Christ congregation, or a morelight presbyterian, or contact me and I will suggest more. If you are wanting to experiment with a more traditional liturgy, try calling your local Episcopal diocese and asking to be recommended to a parish that is welcoming to gays. Don't be afraid, just ask. If you are near Pittsburgh -- maybe not, that bishop is nuts, so is ours in Albany but not so badly -- most are ok.

Hope that all helps. Don't worry, you or your gay friends won't go to hell. God knows that the Bible is a myth. His heaven is open to everyone.

Regards,

Reynolds Jones
Schenectady, NY
http://www.rebuff.org

Answer 3

yes i do, I'm know I'm going to heaven despite being bi-sexual. I am never mean to people or make them fell degraded or put down. I help with two charities, and live a good life. I dont think God is going to turn me away from heaven, just because i like girls too.Also, God made me this way, so why should I ask for his forgivness and repent for the way he made me?????????? If he had wanted me to be straight, he would have made me that way.

Answer 4

It's a wonderful thing called the human condition. Besides if no one in the world "sinned" so to speak and that was the only way to get into heaven, then what the hell (all pun inteaded) is the point. Sounds pretty unrewarding to me.

Answer 5

well in my world we dont beleive in heaven or hell but reincarination. So either way you are comming back to earth.

But i see no reason why shouldnt go to heaven. Same sex realtions aside, i think it really depends on the person you are on the grand scheme of things not small things such as sexual preference or social etiquetes skilss

Answer 6

I don't believe in heaven, but I will say that the closest I've ever come to having a religious experience was in bed with another woman.

Answer 7

I don't believe in Heaven, but sure, why not? I mean, from a Christian perspective Jesus said the two great comandments were love thy neighbor and love god. If a person does that (regaurdless of who they screw and make a life with), I don't see the problem.

Answer 8

If there is a God then it was Him who introduced gay people into the world so of course we'll go to heaven. If there isnt a God theres gonna be a lot of dissapointed christians.

Answer 9

Yes, I do. God is a loving god. One that knows our inner strength and weaknesses. For he created us, he understands. Being with the same sex, to me, is not a "bad thing". Now, lets say you harm someone, that's a different story.

Answer 10

That's sort of like saying, do you think you'll go to heaven if your a thief and continue to steal all your days .. your must seek forgiveness and repent .

Answer 11

Only if you repent of your sins and accept Jesus as your savior, and by sin I don't mean being with the same sex because that is not a sin.