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So many say that "Christ died for us...for our sins so that we can get into heaven". "We were washed in the blood of the perfect lamb". "Our only salvation is through Christ".

But what does this actually mean?


Everyone of us sin everyday. Abraham, Noah, etc. had remarkeble faith in God. Nobody died for them so that they can have that faith. Heaven could not have been closed to them coz the Apostles saw Jesus with two figures(Elia & Moses, I think)
on the mountain.

Just bear with me, I can not see the reason for Jesus' death as atonement for our sins. It's completely against the Old Testament.

This 'new covenent' thing doesn't make sense either. I don't see any mention of it prior the crucifiction.

If would really like to get you guys' point of view.

2006-06-08 23:20:14 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I agree. In the Old Testament there was a different animal sacrificed for each sin or each type of sin. And you were only forgiven until you sinned again. Then you had to sacrafice another animal to make an atonement for your sin. But when Christ came and died on the cross for us. He was the ultimate atonement. The "lamb." The reason the animals didn't work is because... an animals life isn't as relevant to another human's life as one human to another. He died on the cross and shed his blood for us. From one human to another. That is something that we can relate to. That is why we are washed by the blood of the lamb. Because he gave the ultimate sacrafice. His life for us. When he was sinless.

1 Peter 1

18For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your forefathers, 19but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. 20He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. 21Through him you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God.

2006-06-08 23:25:27 · answer #1 · answered by ? 3 · 2 0

Ok , Jesus died on the cross at that point in time for all time. If you look in Hebrews around chapter 11 you will see they were justified by faith. Jesus conquered sin and death and the grave for all time. But heaven dosen't do things in linear time If you study the book of revelations you know this. So they all were washed in the blood which means that Jesus cleaned their sins away and made the clean before the Father. Jesus was the atonement for sin look at the passover ceremony and where they put the blood on the sides of the door and the top if you link thoes what do you have? a Cross.

2006-06-09 06:27:49 · answer #2 · answered by xx_muggles_xx 6 · 0 0

The old Testament Saints job is not over. Nobody is in heaven yet.

Now I notice there, that you say, referring to it, you don’t really mean necessarily the word, in the Old Testament, but at least a reference to it. And I believe probably the most obvious would be events that happened in the Old Testament that seem like the Rapture. And, we have some in the Old Testament.

Well not actually what takes place at the Rapture, for then we get brand new bodies, to be like the body of Jesus, I John 3:2-3.

However, there were two men in the Old Testament who were snatched up to meet the Lord in the heavenlies. Enoch walked with God, and he was not, for God took him. Now it was a form of the Rapture, but it wasn’t really the Rapture, because he’s on the other side in his old body. It was not changed as he went up. And then in 2 Kings 2:11, Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven, but he’s still there in his body. All the others are there as spirits, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord, 2 Corinthians 5:8. And James teaches us that, chapter 2:27, as the body went out, the spirit is dead, because that sprit is with the Lord. So it’s a total heaven, full of spirits, even the angels, except these two bodies, and they come back, and they are the two witnesses of Revelation chapter 11. And in verse 12, after they’ve been killed, because the crowds don’t want to hear their preaching, they are caught up into heaven.
I always remember a child being taught about the " Rapture" in the Catholic schools, but They called it" being caught up into heaven". Why do our churches seldom mention the event?

Catholic school they taught it as “being caught up”. That is I Thessalonians 4:17. You know, someone said you can't find the word “rapture” in the Bible. But you can in the Catholic Bible, the Latin Vulgate by Saint Jerome. When he gets to I Thessalonians 4:17, he uses the word “rapiamore” – it means raptured – where it says, “caught up” in our English versions. Why don't more churches do it? They don't study and they don't know what the Bible says. They don't study the catechism – they don’t study the Word of God. God forgive us for that situation.

2006-06-09 06:34:53 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Hi Cheymain,

In the Old Testament, high priests use the blood of animals to represent the cleansing of sins. And they do this every year. When Jesus came, He did this atonement by dieing on the cross once and for all. He is the Highpriest.

Please read Hebrews chapters 8 and 9.

I hope this helps.

2006-06-09 06:31:21 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Absolutely correct! Righteous people have always died in the cause of whats right, many before Jesus. If God so loved the world he could have let the death of Adam atone for all mankind, so why Jesus? What is so special about someones death rather than life? Muhammad Lived for us so that we may find salvation in the knowledge of God and Jesus lived for us not died

2006-06-09 06:27:07 · answer #5 · answered by Soulace 1 · 0 0

It sounds revolting, "brainwashed in the bood of the lamb" more like.

My sister has started using that phrase a lot since she joined a fundamentalist church group and I hate her saying it. For a start she is not American and US type sayings sound ridiculous spoken by someone with a Brit accent, the style of Christianity is US style too,

I don't have anything against US though you can tell it's an import, there's an element of brainwashing in this wash and it doesn't sound at all sincere.

2006-06-09 06:52:56 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

the lamb sacrifice during old testament scenario was so temporary and need to repeat everytime GOD requested.so the SON of GOD JESUS CHRIST was sent and became the perfect atonement of men,s sins!

2006-06-09 06:24:49 · answer #7 · answered by aqruipnos888 4 · 0 0

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