I would like to find a "both" Bi-Man "and" Bi-Woman to settle down with and form a "real family" that I never had before in my life.
I am a Christian Bi-loving Man and would like to do this while I am still kinda young. Is this possible in this "mono-sexual", "anti-Christian world"? I find that I am a man FAR beyond my time. In this world "LOVE" is "exclusive" possesion. Either that, or people are NOT into "intimacy" and have multple partners of "either gender"--not for me, compromises intimacy.
With another man I could have one form of "special" intimacy and with a special Lady a different kind altogether.
Caution: I DO NOT mean multiple partners of the opposite gender OR same gender(ie. polygany nor polyandry)--ONE OF EACH ONLY. So my question is, Do others have that same need?
How do we make these families happen? Think of the possibilites?
Eventhough I will get negative feedback from the mono-sexuals & poly-sexuals, I prefer Bi-sexuals ONLY to weigh in on this one.
2006-06-06
17:47:32
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Please no "pagans" on this one for you do not acknowledge the one true GOD.
Likewise, no "Biblians" as your Pharasee, Lawyer, and Scribe fathers before you, you neither know the scriptures nor the power of GOD [see Matt 22:29] because you do not read scripture "carefully" enough "if at all" for yourself with prayer AND you are NOT born from above so you have not the Holy Spirit "within you" to "teach you all things" as it is written. I write this with the Bible in front of me.....do you have yours? Do you "read" it in the Hebrew "for yourself"? are you Born Again by Grace and NOT by "the LAW"? If NOT don't even bother to condemn the guiltLESS with verses [like Lev.] you have no knowledge NOR more importantly "understanding" just as Yeshuah (Jesus) "often" spoke about you. [see Matt 12:7]--I AM way ahead of you on this.
2006-06-06
18:15:22 ·
update #1
Note: I DO NOT believe in same-sex "marriage" for Christian-Spiritual reasons NOT political or cultural. So No-one in the family would have a politically "legal" problem.
I desire to "espousal commitment" to one man also for "believe it or not" Christian-Spiritual reasons.
The two relationships would be two "fundamentally different" ones because GOD requires it and so go I--HIS son.
2006-06-06
18:25:58 ·
update #2
Robert P: Read Romans 1 "and ALL the others" CAREFULLY, PRAYERFULLY and if the "Holy Spirit" is "in you" AND "willing to teach you" because you trust "HIM" and NOT your knowledge of the "letter" of scripture, then your spiritual eyes will be opened to see in those verses something you NEVER expected! This is for all of you who are "Biblians" and babes to the word as it is written therein. I have much more to say to you but "ye cannot bear them now"...sound familiar? :)
2006-06-06
18:34:09 ·
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TO: ScarletFires Answer:
I believe the problem with your situation is that you might have been "unequally yoked" (as the scriptures put it). You were in the "biological" component of this scripture. A bi-natured person will not be understood in his "need" to be bi-loved by monosexuals (heterosexuals and homosexuals), it is NOT in thier "instinctive" natures.
Bisexual people "often" get involved with others who are not and I believe that will spell disaster on the horizon....which usually happens--NATURALLY
2006-06-17
09:32:51 ·
update #4
To: kleenupman
Im going to repond to you "exactly" the way the LORD Yeshuah (Jesus) did before me to "your" Pharasee, "Law"yer and Scribe Fathers (Sons of the devil as Jesus called them:
[John 8:44] Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer [verbally like you] from the beginning, and abode not in the truth [Truth of GOD], because there is no truth[Spirit of GOD] in him. When he speaketh a lie[Quoting scripture like he did to Jesus in the wilderness], he speaketh of his own [like promoting "your own" self-important heterosexual nature] : for he is a liar [like you], and the father of it.
2006-06-17
10:41:50 ·
update #5
[Luke 11:45-46] Then answered one of the "law"yers, and said unto him, Master, thus saying thou reproachest us also. And he said, Woe unto you also, [ye] lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.
[Mat 21:31]Whether of them twain did the will of [his] father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before YOU!.............HELLO
[Matt 23:13] But woe unto you, scribes[the Bible/"Scrip"ture Quoters of Jesus' day] and Pharisees [Devout followers of Moses' LAW], "hypocrites!" for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
You see, those devils (unregenerated "in"wardly), justified themselves as more "MORAL" than their fellowman even Jesus Himself!....What nerve!
2006-06-17
10:43:12 ·
update #6
Soooo "How Christian are you that you don't acknowledge bisexuality is a sin?" Born of the "Spirit" of Christ with HIS understanding of sexuality and NOT of "narcissistic, self-important, seperatist fallin man". You interprete scripture "without Spirit of GOD" that brings "UNDERSTANDING" of it's witness. Go to a search engine, type in homosexuality and the Bible, have a good Hebrew/Greek interlinear Bible or Strongs (book) concordance handy and study, study, study. Maybe GOD will be merciful and ENLIGHTEN you even though you don't have HIS SPIRIT...it will be up to HIM. As for Sodom and Gamorah.....GOD had NO tolerance for Homosexual rape of the stanger within the gates NOT Homosexual LOVE between two intimate males. If you can't see the difference (and I know you can't as you DONT have the mind of Christ), then you also can't see the difference between a man HETEROSEXUAL rape of a woman stranger within the gates and a HETEROSEXUAL intimate sex with your WIFE...
2006-06-17
10:44:09 ·
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......GEEE it's all the same to you I guess LOL!!
Try reading your "WHOLE" BIBLE like Biblians like you DONT. I suggest [Judges 19 & 20]....Parallells Sodom and Ghomorah HETEROSEXUALLY...Like your nature!
So now read what I posted elsewhere to the "Bible"ians...like YOU, for ye are NOT "Christ"ian so why do YOU claim so? A poor in spirit soul (written of by the LORD JESUS) asked:
"why do people who believe in god have to use the bible as a weapon against homosexuals?"
2006-06-17
10:45:39 ·
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My ANSWER:
Hi everyone, I am new to post but as a saved bi-amorous man (saved since about 12 years old, bisexual from my mother's womb), I would like to help with this question.
The reason they use the Bible as a weapon against homosexuality is because "ironically", it fulfills scripture.
You see, these, like thier fathers before them (the Pharisee's, Lawyers, and Scribes of Yeshuah's (Jesus') day, being sons of the devil (as Christ called them), like the devil (consider the wilderness temptation); quote scripture (i.e Moses)to prevent many from coming to the light of "Truth" (Jesus Himself). As it is written: "There is nothing new under the sun"(Bible), and this too, is NOT new.
As Jesus told these types then, They "neither know the scripture NOR the power of GOD" --What did HE mean by this?
2006-06-17
10:46:48 ·
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HE did NOT mean that they did not "know" what was written in the "text" of scripture as they're very name reveals that they were "the MOST Biblically knowledgeable of ALL the people"
Pharisees: Devout followerers of the Torah (the Old Testament of the Bible=the ONLY Bible in Jesus' day)
Lawyers: Those who devoted their life and career to the study of the LAW of GOD (Moses including Leviticus)
Scribes: Those who devouted their life and careers to the "meticulous word by word" copying of the Bible. Do that all your life and you REALLY know the Bible. :)
Yet notice that our LORD Jesus had NOTHING or next to NOTHING good to say about these. Niether did Jesus follow the "Letter of the LAW" Himself as it reads. This is why they wanted HIM killed-As many of these like-minded Christianizers do today (verbally and literally)of homosexual and bi peoples-see the parallel? :)
2006-06-17
10:47:29 ·
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I ask these devils in the manner that Jesus before challenged there fathers:
How is it that Jesus and his disciples could pluck ears of corn on the Sabbath (calling for the death penalty in YOUR Bible) and still remain "guiltLESS"? Can't use the old food exception argument because the Bible did not make such an exception-remember the man who mearly picked up a few sticks (maybe to build a fire) on the Sabbath (Numbers) and was stoned to death at GOD's command (who some say is the same as Jesus). Would this not make Jesus a hypocrite?
And what about the Biblical "command" that a man write his wife a "bill of devourcement" and put her away if he finds "some uncleaness" in her (Duet. 24). Notice the Bible did NOT state "fornication" just "some uncleaness". going by the "text" of the Bible Jesus would be wrong when He said it "meant" fornication,... but Jesus, it didn't "SAY" fornication did it?
2006-06-17
10:49:18 ·
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Yet Jesus claimed that he "always" did the will of the Father (the Biblical author) and kept the LAW PERFECTLY...How could this be if he didn't DO what it says to do as you accuss homo-amorous people of.
What allowed all these things to happen and MORE? What is Jesus Teaching us? Are we not to walk AFTER JESUS' Example?
The problem was that these devils had "knowledge" of the Biblical "text" (by reading) but had NO "understanding"(by the HOLY GHOST) of what it meant or what GOD meant when HE authored it.
This also teaches that this "understanding" comes ONLY by the "mind of Christ" which is given the TRUE believer when he recieves the "Comforter" sent by Christ. For Christ said it is "The Holy Spirit" that teaches us ALL TRUTH. Notice HE did NOT say it is "Scripture" that leads us into all TRUTH eventhough he could have since he did teach scripture that refered to HIMSELF all the time.
2006-06-17
10:49:57 ·
update #12
Without the Spirit of GOD "IN" a Christianizer's life he/she "cannot" "understand" TRUTH. They can only "know" Biblical text. The Bible is a very special book. It is "Spiritual" and without the authoring Spirit living "in" you, unlike other books, you "cannot" have access to it's TRUTHS. This is what JESUS(GOD) and later Paul is teaching in totality.
So fret not those of you who are both Saved and NOT heterosexual. As the LORD said, Ye shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall make you FREE.
As for the Bible-bashing devils, I will tell them as my LORD told thier fathers before them, I will NOT accuss you to the father in the day of judgement. You have one who will accuss you- even(Moses)the Bible "in whom ye trust".
2006-06-17
10:51:16 ·
update #13
Yes it is that SAME Bible that will come back to haunt them, because the same GOD that wrote one LAW wrote the others (see James 2:7-12 compared with Matt 12:1-7). Read these verses, repent and be saved and maybe you too might know what it "meaneth: I will have mercy and NOT sacrifice" and cease to condemn the guiltless as it is written.
2006-06-17
10:52:38 ·
update #14
My Suggestion to all "Bible"ians mascurading as "Christ"ians but have NOT HIS HOLY SPIRIT:
[1] Repent, Be Saved and Born from above so that the Holy Spirit resides "within you" to quide you into "all TRUTH"
[2] Understand that "knowledge" alone of Scripture does NOT = Obedience. Knowledge + Salvation + Understanding = Obedience
[3] Revisit ALL the text in the Bible that you think condemn "all" homosexual activity with intensive study including the original Hebrew and Greek [GOD's words]. The internet has lots of good information that is "Biblically based". Type in a search engine homosexuality and the Bible and read with your Bible in hand.
2006-06-17
10:58:23 ·
update #15
[4] Understand why GOD did not include "obvious" homosexual relationships in the Bible, but it's homo-amorous component (consider: David and Johnathan; Jesus and the naked young man in the linen cloth - Mark 14:50-52; Ruth and Naomi). This comes by the Holy Ghost Revelation and gets into what the purpose of the Scriptures truly is and is NOT.
When you do ALL of this homework (as any child of GOD would not mind doing on ANY matter), then one is able to see the light on not only homosexuality but ALL sexuality and the Bible.....AMEN :--)
Source(s):
The Holy Spirit [Witness one] "REQUIRED"
The Holy Bible [Witness two] "co-required"
Yeshuah's (Jesus) Ministry while Man on Earth "REQUIRED"
2006-06-17
11:01:28 ·
update #16
To: anthony p AND yourasluttyhoe
dude are you out of your mind? how can you honestly claim to be a christian and gay at the same time.
Well, you have given yet another example of how those like yourself "read things into" text and "add to the word". I did not say I was "gay" [RE-READ THE TEXT]. I do not believe in "gay" OR "straight" labels as they are a part of the current "culture" and often divert attention from the natural science of being bisexual (or homosexual). So my being a "gay" christian was how YOU "miss"understood it like you do the scriptures....You "READ abominations into it" that is NOT there (That is if you read it "at all")
2006-06-17
21:31:56 ·
update #17
first of all lets get one thing straight (no pun intended) the is no such thing as a gay christian. if you are a true christian then being gay is not an option like it or dont like it there is nowhere in the bible that says that lifestyle is acceptable to God.
Now that comment is probably the closest I come to agreeing with you. Gay is often a "lifestyle" therefore it is chosen by man. Bi & Homosexually-born orientation is NOT. There is a difference, but having not THE SPIRIT, you would not know that.
2006-06-17
21:32:30 ·
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now your a christian ok then explain this Lev. 18:22 plainly says thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind it is an abomination.
You don't REALLY want an explanation of Lev. 18:22 as the LORD told HIS adversaries in the scriptures "Why tempt ye me?" Yes, that is the purpose of your question, therefore you will not believe anything I tell you just as they did not believe Jesus when he explained how to "understand" the verses. They were ALREADY convinced (like you) AND they were claiming that Jesus had a devil to say & DO the things he did that were (as it seemed to them), contrary to the LAW of Moses (NOTE: The LAW of MOSES includes "your" Leviticus 18:22)....I'll even add another one you didn't mention Lev 20:13. So in asking me this question you sound like your Pharasee fathers...Why did Moses say this or write that? The answer to YOU is the same as the answer Yeshuah (Jesus) gave to them...for the harness of your hearts Moses wrote those precepts but for all men it is not
2006-06-17
21:34:24 ·
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hmmmmm good question.... *clueless* I don't really know.... My past experiences with anything similar always ended up bad. The other guy or girl would get upset and jealous of the other, and it would continue until we could not bare it any longer. I think it is possible to find that, but that all the people involved will have to be strong, and know that they will have to give a little to get a little.... I don't know how to explain what I'm trying to say very well. But, I know people who can't handle their relationships with only one other person, so if you are strong enough to handle two people, more power to you. I wish you well. And I do know several people who live 'alternative' lifestyles where they are in a similar situation. So it is possible.
Nár laga Dia do lámh
~Scarlet
2006-06-16 06:14:58
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OK OK OK, enough. You want to have a healthy relationship with a bi male and a bi female. Why are you defending yourself to the hilt? You really sound like every other Christian I have ever met- stating something and defending yourself with the Bible. Im glad that you read, I really am. But you are also taking every thing at face value. Read between the lines dear. No offense, Im glad that you are strong in your faith, but it is people like you that turned me from the Christian faith. I converted to hinduism and am currently engaged to the most wonderful guy in the world ( at least to me). I am much happier now and I find that Hinduism allows for my beliefs to fit with the religion. What you need to do is stop quoting the Bible, advertise for what you're looking for, go out, meet people. That is the only way that you will find what you are looking for. Dont be nervous. Keep in mind that if you do want to marry these two potential partners, the government will only recognize one and that you will be able to get benefits, especially if you marry the woman, but you probably wont get anything for the male. This concept is a good one and I commend you for wanting to do this, especially your being Christian. But we are still having a hard enough time with gay couples and this would just shatter the earth as we know it. I wish you luck in your endeavors and in finding your partners.
2006-06-20 11:15:16
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answered by Anonymous
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dude are you out of your mind? how can you honestly claim to be a christian and gay at the same time. first of all lets get one thing straight (no pun intended) the is no such thing as a gay christian. if you are a true christian then being gay is not an option like it or dont like it there is nowhere in the bible that says that lifestyle is acceptable to God. now your a christian ok then explain this Lev. 18:22 plainly says thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind it is an abomination.its no secret what happened sodom and gomorrah. and how do you explain romans 1:27 and likewise also the men leaving the natural use of the woman burned in their lust one toward another men with men working that wich is unseemly and receiving in themselves that trcompence of their error which was meet you read on down to verse 32 says who knowing the judment of God that they which commit such things are worthy of death not only do the same but have pleasure in them that do them. now ill tell ya why the gay lifestyle is wrong in Gods eyes or at least one reason. when God created adam and eve he told them or gave them a comandment to replenish the earth. this is a comandment now how can two men or two women replenish the earth it is not possible so if you chose to live a gay or bisexual lifestyle you are disobeying one of Gods comandments henceforth it is a sin. now Mat. 19:4-6 says this is wha a man leaves his father and mother and bonds with his wife and they become one flesh. 2 important points here notice it says wife not wifes the word is singular meaning only one other party in the marriage covenant. and the other is notice again it says wife not husband wife is the female the man and woman husband and wife these 2 become 1 flesh hey God created adam and eve not adam and steve. now ive just showed you proof with the bible that this lifestyle is wrong in accordance to the bible. now a part of being a christian is #1 confess your sins and #2 foresake those sins now if you want to be a christian (according to the bible) youve got to foresake your sins as well as confess them so upon this evidence brought forth from the bible i can honestly say that there is no such thing as a gay christian you can hold any opinion of yourself you want you can think your a christian you can think your fecal matter dont stink too but in the end the only opinion thats going to matter is Gods and his alone so your not going to stand before him and say hey i had no clue that was wrong too late then you know now that its wrong the rest is up to you.
2006-06-17 12:42:33
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answered by anthony p 2
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People who take what the Bible says seriously are not hypocrites. We all fail. We are not like the Pharasees, but instead we strive to live up to the example set by Jesus and his disciples. And the scripture is against homosexuality and that includes bisexuality. Romans 1, 2nd Corinthins 6:9, Sodom and Gamora. Need I say more?
2006-06-20 07:56:46
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answered by mkostelnik@sbcglobal.net 2
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The Bible talks about men turning to other men in lust and unnatural affection. Homosexuality is not natural and you are not born that way. It's a choice. No other animal on the face of the earth mates with its own sex. Man and woman, that's how it works. Anyway, the Bible says hmosexuality is an abomination to God. According to Dictionary.com, "abomination" means to disgust. So God is disgusted by the act of homosexuality. God still loves the person and wants to have a relationship with them, but they must turn away from their sin of homosexuality.
2006-06-19 14:23:08
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first off your not a christian you may think you are but you are not!!! If you truely believed in what you are claiming to believe then you would know that what you are doing is an abombination in Gods eyes. and homosexual acts are forbiden in the eyes of god. I dont know if you are serious when you ask your question. but I will tell you " GOD made adam and eve not adam and steve"
and I will close my argument here, you need to do alot of self evaluation and dont tell yourself answeres you want to here. A lot of prayer you need to do alot of praying. Soddom and Gammore prime example of a no no. claerly it says that those people where haveing homo sex and sex with animals and group sex and everthing dude your not a christian, stop claiming your a christian. if you where a true christian you would not even be asking such a stupid question.......
2006-06-17 15:44:28
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answered by Anonymous
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You prefer only bi-sexuals to answer because you know they will agree with everything you say, therefore YOU ARE NOT REALLY ASKING FOR AN ANSWER TO A QUESTION - YOU ARE LOOKING FOR AGREEMENT FROM OTHERS TO JUSTIFY YOUR PERVERTED VIEW OF GOD'S WORD.
YOU ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN - you are not a follower of the LORD Jesus Christ. You are not a disciple of the LORD Jesus Christ. You have taken the name of the LORD in vain to try to justify your wrongs.
THE ONLY ONE YOU SHOULD BE ASKING IS GOD ALMIGHTY. BUT THEN, I CAN SEE WHY YOU WOULDN'T CALL UPON HIM FOR SUCH A THING; YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T DECEIVE HIM!
SEEK THE LORD WHILE HE MAY BE FOUND. CUZ SOMEDAY IT WILL BE TOO LATE.
2006-06-20 10:53:09
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answered by Shalom Yerushalayim 5
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You are one confused young man. You cannot be a walking with God Christian if you are seriously looking to create a family unit with another man for one purpose and another woman for another. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for behavior such as you are suggesting. Not the wild orgiastic behavior, but for the total disregard of the Word and Will of God as they knew it at the time.
God created man to be the head of the household in all ways and to lead his wife and children in a godly and Holy Spirit filled way. God created woman to stand by man and to be his helper, his companion and the mother of his children. Two men cannot lead a household successfully. Who is the woman to be under submission to? Both of you? Then she is out of obedience with God because God says to be faithful and submissive to one man, her husband.
Your desire to create a family unit with another man and woman is a perversion of God's intent.
Before you take such a step, you should get into some serious Bible study. For it is in the Word of God you will find your answers.
By the way, being a Christian is much more than just saying you are one, or having been baptized. It means you have surrendered all of your life, all parts of your life to God and choose to walk in His ways, not your own. Please rethink calling yourself a Christian.
Please don't say you are a "man FAR beyond (your) time." You are a man who has a stronghold in his life put there by the lies and deceptions of Satan.
2006-06-20 04:07:03
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answered by Sandy S 3
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There are families like this, but they are rarely Christian.
I know a whole bunch of Pagan Polyamorous groups, but no Christian ones. Look up polyamoury sites, that is what you are looking for. The best I could find what a Unitarian Universalist website. Good luck.
2006-06-06 17:55:56
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answered by Anonymous
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How Christian are you that you don't acknowledge bisexuality is a sin? Not only do you not acknowledge it, you intend to find others to partake in your immorality as well. That's not Christianity, pal. That is open rebellion against God and His Word, and whatever that so-called "church" is that condones your behavior, it shouldn't have the gall to call itself Christian. Tolerance?Political correctness? God showed Sodom And Gomorrah exactly how "politically correct " He is, didn't He?
2006-06-16 18:29:30
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answered by kleenupman 2
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You are an ambitious man. I am a hetero who wishes you the best of luck in your undertaking. I don't see why it can't happen for you, though I don't fathom the importance of a woman to be bi for your family. The state will see the desire to marry two people as illegal polygamy, so I suspect your "wedding" will have to be more on a spiritual level as opposed to having legal standing.
2006-06-06 17:52:33
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answered by Anonymous
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