Explain this please:?

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I asked how we have different races if Adam and Eve is true...and the Christian community mentioned these were adaptive mutations...not evolution

I asked if enough adaptive mutations constitute evolution, and everyone answered "yes"

So, if Christians agree that human mutations happen, and enough of them constitue evolution...then why is evolution so hard to believe?

Add to this the fact that micro-evolution happens constantly, and the fossil record morphing from ape to human...
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/specimen.html

Seriuosly...where's the problem?

Note: I'm not arguing Creation. While its not my thing, I won't say that God didn't create life...but evolution into man is pretty clear.

Rachellynn - If that were true, then that would mean God failed as we HAVE come together again.

Answer 1

I have no problem. As I stated before, I can accept evolution as long is it is a part of God's creative force. There has to be a God behind it all for me to accept it. I can see the book of Genesis and the creation story as a profound myth, a method for teaching the actual Truth, that there is a God and He alone is responsible for all creation. That is the truth, and the how and why of it all doesn't negate that basic Truth.

Answer 2

Doug,

First, mutations are inherently distructive of a species. Secondly, there are two kinds of evolution: Micro-evolution (a scientific fact that Creation Scientists admit to); and Macro-evolution (a theory with a lot of assumptions and not 1 missing link).

Consider how an Evolutionist and Creationist interpret the same data:

The forelimb of man can be compared bone to bone to the flipper of a whale and the wing of a bird.

An evolutionist says: Common ancestor.

A creationist says: Common design.

WHO MADE THE ASSUMPTION?

There is no assumption in saying common design. There is a huge assumption in saying common ancestor.

Check out Creation Science, as I have, and you might realize they were once evolutionists who woke up.

Good question for Christians to ponder.

Answer 3

K one more time, evolution and Christian creation theory are not mutually exclusive. evolution is how God "did it" in essence, but us understanding evolution is seriously like an ape understanding the wheel. He understands how it goes around and maybe a little bit of how to ride on it, but it doesn't mean he has the slightest idea of how the car works.

See, God (whatever you want to call him) created EVERYTHING including science, including things science is based on such as cause an effect. I'm not saying science is wrong, I'm saying that every once in a while man discovers something that literally changes his world view. For example, before the microscope people thought illness was caused by demons, but now we know better.

Answer 4

Agreed. Evolution in the mutative sense is quite plausible and unrefutable.

I guess it's the "springing" from one specie to another that presents a huge stumbling block for most, including me. I can understand the mutation of skeletal features, intelligence and pigmentation of the HUMAN SPECIE.

But adding the concept of micro-evolution [as can be observed in its most basic forms] to two highly complex structures --i.e., between ape and man-- will always remain HIGHLY DEBATABLE until proven otherwise or whoever turns blue in the face first!

There are those who figure that they didn't come from apes; and there are those who claim that they do. It's really as simple as that for now, see? Just like being Theistic and non-Theistic...

And for the life of me, I still can't imagine what would TRIGGER such an evolutionary process, and I do wonder if today's clinical scientists would venture to experiment to find out what sort of EXTERNAL MECHANISM [WITHOUT human intervention, of course] would effect the intelligence of an ape... Do you know?? Or would that be another waste of time??

I suggest that we, human beings, should move on and work on ourselves to become human becomings instead. What do you say?

Peace be with you!

Answer 5

IMO it's very possible and quite likely that creation and evolution co-exist and both play a part in our current reality. Anything we create has a potential to evolve into something more. For example, a car. Has it not evolved since its conception? If, as the Bible states, we are created in God's image, or in another place it states, "ye are gods" why would our simplistic creations not be reflections of more majestic creations of a higher, more evolved being? It's also possible, again IMO, that in the far distant future we will evolve our potentials to a point that we too may be creating planets and watching evolution take place upon them. Creating something that has no potential for expansion and improvement would simply be boring and of little or no benefit.

Answer 6

You're not gonna get a straight answer from Christians. They live in denial all their lives, they're brainwashed. They are afraid to come out, the same as homosexual is afraid to admit. I am not against any lesbians or gay, I think they are part of human evolution. If Christians admit there's no God, they'd lose their face. Christians slow down the progress of science education. Everything they benefit today is a result of invention based on science.

Answer 7

I believe in adaptive mutations, evolution and im athiest hope that the above question wasnt aimed at me also.

I see not problem with it at all, I had my eyes tested recently and they work perfectly well, although my spelling remains to be seen!

what I think that some people fail to accept is that evolution is an ongoing process and just becasue they cant see within they're livetimes teh porcess of mutation and evolution they dont believe it. they live in the now, not the past present and future.

have you ever considered joining Jim_darwin group??

Answer 8

Old Testament- Tower of Babylon. A tower was built, with the intentions of reaching the heavens, but God decided then that man should not be of only one nationality. It would mean that man would only have one ruler, most likely a tyrant. So, he then changed the people building the tower into different cultures and languages to ensure this would never happen again. At least, that's my understanding if the story. I believe it's in Genesis.

Answer 9

I don't think all the aspects of evolution are hard to believe. I only think that we are placing too much faith in our limited understandings and sometimes flawed analyses and interpretations of data. I'm referring to science, here. I think that humanity has progressed in leaps and bounds, and I heartily agree that much of what science has to offer is legitimate and practical.

I only believe that we're still too incapable of knowing all that we would like to know, or already claim to know. We can't duplicate blood cells, or even explain the entire human brain, and we want to have all the answers to the myriad enigmas of this universe. I think that's a bit arrogant, at best.

On the other hand, Christians are a bit forceful with their beliefs and sometimes narrow-minded and stubborn, from a secular perspective. I'm afraid that's the result of religion in this Age of Enlightenment we live in, where science is taking over the world of belief.

Personally, I can't swallow all of the assertions made on the behalf of evolution - all forms. That doesn't mean that every type of evolution, or even the concept itself is entirely wrong. People are too quick to lump everything into black and white categories, labeling all of something as entirely right or wrong, and thereby remaining ignorant of the fact that perhaps somebody is 50% right...or 85% right. There is often more truth to a lot of things than people can or will admit.

Evolution is still so refuted by Christians - in my personal opinion - because they feel so pressured and almost persecuted by Science. It's excessive at times, perhaps, but it ultimately boils down a difference in beliefs. To each his own. I have nothing against people of different beliefs, or even those beliefs themselves sometimes. I take issue with those who take it upon themselves to force their own beliefs on others of a differing opinion. But...that's life, eh?

p.s. to address your reply to rachellynn's comment: God didn't actually split them up so that they would never come back together again. He simply split them up; there would be very little variety in this world if we were all the same color and spoke the same language. He knew this, and he prevented this global ennui by separating people much earlier in the history of this world. The Bible says nothing of him wanting them never to get back together again...

Answer 10

Doug, doug, if you don't believe in something than it isn't true and I'm right and you're wrong. And since I don't believe rain is wet I don't need an umbrella.

Seriosly though some folks just need to believe in something. Some like science, others want to think humans came from UFO drop offs, others want to believe in ancient writings.

I was 8 when I asked bio-father how god made the world in seven days and why didn't the bible mention dinosaurs? His reply "Gods days where longer back then"

So simple put some folks like facts and others like faith.

Answer 11

Change. The problem is change. Taking religion completely out of this, human beings have an adversity to change. Human beings don't like anything that upsets the order in which they live their lives. They are quite happy once they set up their own personal structure and quietly live within it. Then change throws in a monkey wrench and all chaos breaks loose. Something has upset the order and we don't like that, and because of that chaos we try with all our might to go back to that cozy little structure we are used to.

What you have stated above requires changing in thought patterns and beliefs. Very few are willing to 'jump in without a life preserver' and accept a new order for themselves. Many don't realize that change is beneficial.