Is it justify to break morals-lying -breaking laws-cheating because your poor?

Question

Are Morals brushed aside because you feel justified in your action? What if all the poor did that everywhere (here we have thousands and thousands who are in need-citizens)? And many do not break the law for their own selfishness and try to justify their actions. Is there a moral decline in illegals?

flabbajabba-your clueless

Pancha=some have morals and some don't!

Answer 1

no no no
nothing can justify any ilegal or imoral action just because you feel you need to ,then everyone will use the excuse that i had no choice ..... theres always a choice
laws are there for a reason if you don't agree with a law loby congress to change it
other wise deal with it

Answer 2

This a very, very, Very touchy subjects with Americans at this day & time and it should be, first of all to compare this situation with the poor people delimma is totally bogus;
Especially those who had ancesrtys who were kidnapped and force to come here against their wills, I have no problem with a person who comes to this country and go through the things that are set-up for such a thing but, to come over here the way they are doing is wrong, what about the poor people who are already born here who have nothing?
This country says one thing, set one set of laws and rules for the rich and the wealthy and a whole different set for those who can not afford NOTHING, so what's right for some is wrong for others.
I feel like it's an Moral Decline in this country and in those who are running it.

Answer 3

Morals have no place in upholding the law. I am quite sure my morals differ greatly from most peoples morals. That does not mean I will break the law though. I have no problems with people trying to make their life better, but when done so illegaly, you don't get to complain, or protest, you accept the consequences.

There are plenty of people in the world worse off than the illegals that are able to make it here, but they are not so lucky to be able to come here. Is that fair? Why should one poor person be allowed to come here for a better life, while another does not have the chance? Is it selfish of the illegals coming here, to not worry about the rest of the world that is worse off than them? The only fair thing is to shut down the border, and enforce our laws.

Answer 4

If it's OK with Bush, Corporations, the rich, why can't the poor.

All most of them want is something to eat and a place to sleep.

Why did you mention the poor and leave the all powerful out?

Moral decline in illegals? I have no idea what that is talking about..

It is especially ironic you talk about morals of the poor, but the Catholic Church has been covering up it's pedophile priests for decades. Why don't you start with them and then go to Bush?

Answer 5

In ancient India and even today, the courts apply the laws more harshly to the rich because they are supposed to act better and not have any reason to lie cheat or steal. the higher classes have a burden to be extra good
The courts are more lenient with the poor because they think they are more justified in error and should be forgiven.

This is the reverse of it here in USA where the rich get off for shoplifting but the poor go to jail. Our prisons are ful of poor people and few rich ones.

Answer 6

It depends on ones system of ethics. A civilized society, by and large depends upon people following the law, regardless of the circumstances for a large majority of the cases. This is ethics based on rules, as espoused by I. Kant. The end is not justified by the means. The means, or the way by which you live your life, is the most important thing. If everyone practice utilitarian ethics (see Jeremy Bentham) for every situation, we could never have order in our societies.

However, there are several modern ethicists who pose extreme models to test the limits of rules-based ethics.

Kohlberg's approach to moral reasoning has humans moving through several stages of moral reasoning until they reach a stage based on universal ethical principles. At this stage, rules are only valid if they are grounded in justice "and that a commitment to justice carries with it an obligation to disobey unjust laws. Rights are unnecessary as social contracts are not essential for deontic moral action." In a famous example, "the heinz dilemma", a question is posed. A man's wife is sick. A pharmacist has invented a drug that might save her. Heinz is able to scrape together 1000 dollars. The pharmacist makes the drug for $200 but wants to sell it for 2000 dollars. When Heinz approaches the pharmacist and offers hi, 1000 dollars for the drug, the pharmacist refuses, stating that he invented the drug to make money. Should Heinz steal the drug? At the level that Kohlberg address universal ethical principles, the answer would be yes, a human life should be prioritized over the crime of theft. If Heina tried every honest approach to saving his wife's life and failed, then he would be justified to break the law.

Of course, courts would disagree and probably throw him in the big house, but at leat his wife might live.

What do you mean by in-need? If they are starving to death and need a loaf of bread and could not get it any otherway, they would certainly be justified in stealing one. However, if they "need" a nicer car or better clothes, they would not. Of course, most human beings possess powerful self-rationalization abilities and can usually justify their actions.

No, of course, stealing a loaf of bread when you are starving is still wrong...however, the alternative is worse.

Answer 7

Breaking rules for the "rush" isn't a solid reason, that is relatively rather egocentric, immature and cheating. All in the time of historic previous rules have been broken. An occasion of a purely crime? The Underground Railroad. An occasion of an unjust crime? inebriated driving, theft, etc.

Answer 8

the law in its infinite wisdom forbids the rich as well as the poor to beg in the streets-if my kid was hungry i be bringing food home one way of the other-morals are nice when you can afford them-lots of love keep the peace old hippie

Answer 9

Some people look at morals different and they just see as staying alive

Answer 10

I agree with phishbowlered.And I disagree with what you said about poor citizens.Many DO break the law.