Does this sound acurate?

Question

I have been wondering why non-believers are bothered by the sight of the bible or ten comandments (especially at court houses and such) because even if you take away a statue or bible, it doesnt mean that the judges or politicians are going to automatically turn aethiet, they will still believe as will the rest of us who already do. So if non-believers cant see it then it doesnt exist, they rely on soley on being able to see something for it to exist. They cant understand that somethings you just cant see? Does love exist (you cant see it), does air exist (you cant see it) what about the ozone, there are many things you just cant see, but you still know exists.

Get it?

Also noone can force their religion on you, they can only try to force you to listen to what they have to say.

Ok, i understand the thing about seperation of Church and State, but removing those things are doing nothing except removing them from sight. That was my point on that. there never really will be true seperation of church and state.

Sparky, i would ahve no problem with other religious items placed in courtrooms,

1 - because it doesnt change who i am and it does not change the laws that govern over the courtroom.

2 - i try to stay out of the courtrooms anyway by following those laws.

Answer 1

Not exactly I mean u can't see love but u can feel it and u can tell other people love u so that proves to me love exists. Air exist coz u can feel it and breath it also I'm not sure though but maybe it it is possible to see air like under a very powerful microscope but not sure on that one. Ozone layer exists coz I think its made up of chemicals or something that protect us from the altra Violet rays. But the only proof of God is the Bible and what people have told me. Like if I was to tell u that the Flying Spaghetti Monster was real and u can read about him in his Gospel and he created the earth and stuff would u believe me?

Answer 2

It is a simple separation between church and state. Sure, for the believers, it is not a question if the politicians use Biblical references, but a government based on religion is no more different than that of Iran where religion is the basis for politics.

Now, imagine if there is no separation. The bible becomes a part of everyone's life in America; praying in school, teaching Bible in school, the law is based in the commandments and golden rule, God is in everything we do, etc.

Now, it would only make sense if our policies, including foreign policies would be dictated by the bible also. The Pope would have a MAJOR say-so on any of our political affairs, or if you are of another Christian denomination, the pastor, or the deacon, priest, etc.

You can easily substitute any religion in the above example... If it would have been Judaism, we would have celebrate the Sabbath on a different day. If it would have Islam, we might start covering our women from head to toe.

If the religion isn't separated from the affairs of the state, it is possible that sooner or later, a religious zealot would ascend in the highest government seat and dictate what religion we should practice, including Catholicism, Judaism, or Islam.

This is not about believer vs. non-believers. It is about the freedom of who to worship, just like the freedom you are currently enjoying.

Answer 3

If faith is belief in the unseen, then why would you need to see the Ten Commandments in the courtroom or Congress? If God is truly there, you don't need some statue to say so.
There's a reason for church-state separation: Law and government are ideally based on values all Americans share, regardless of religion. By posting the Ten Commandments in Congress or the courts, you are not only using religion as a political tool, but you are also alienating those who happen to have a different belief system, or perhaps none at all.
The idea that we need religious symbols in public is based on the fantasy that America became "great" because of our faith in the Judeo-Christian God, and if we post symbols of faith, God will bless our land and make America strong and prosperous again.

Answer 4

I wonder if you'd have the same opinion if a Wiccan judge hung a giant pentagram in the courtroom?

Yes, the politicians and the judges are going to believe what they believe no matter what is posted. However, by hanging the Ten Commandments in the court room, you are essentially establishing religious laws as secular laws. You are putting all the weight of the court behind a certain religious doctrine.

I'd rather a judge hung a copy of the US Constitution and Bill of Rights on the wall, not the Ten Commandments.

Answer 5

I do not have a problem with other people believing in god and all that but I can't worship something that I can not see. I not saying that I don't believe in god cuz I do I just can't pray to him and worship him. I don't like to be told what to think and what is right or wrong I like to figure that stuff out on my own, It has been with my experience with Churches and such that they try to tell you that if you do not follow their bible exactly that you are a bad person. I also don't understand why some people have so much trouble letting others have their believes and do what they what to do in the case of religion. I have no problem letting thous who wish to tell me about what their religion is all about I actually like to hear others views on the world. You are a brave person to ask this kind of question thank you for that.

Answer 6

I realize that people will believe what they believe. Being the laws of separation of church and state, those items should be removed. Again, items. They are religious symbols (church) in a courthouse (state). Seems clear to me. Science has proven the existence of air and ozone. Love is a feeling. Nothing has proven that a god exists. Get it? Trying to force you to listen to what they have to say about religion is not forcing religion on you?

Answer 7

A person CAN force their religion upon me if they are in a position of authority. Like you stated above, a judge or politician will still believe as he/she wishes, regardless of the underling's religious beliefs. There is to be a separation of church and state for this very reason. I do not want to go to a courthouse and see a giant statue of the Ten Commandments. That is wrong, not everybody believes in God the father the way the Bible portrays him. Muslims see Allah differently. Buddhists don't see God at all. Why force those who don't share your view to be a part of it? Atheists don't put statues of the atom at courthouses, Agnostics don't post huge "MAYBE" signs in front of courthouses, why should I be forced to view anything religious when I am in a building of the law of the land?!? Freedom of religion, yes. Freedom from religion, yes. Freedom to force religion, no.

Answer 8

It's not that I'm bothered by the sight of them, just that it shows the line separating church and state is being blurred. I'm not expecting anyone to turn atheist, and I do understand and respect others beliefs, I just do not need to see them where they do not belong. It's a matter of respect to not have items of a specific religion in "court houses and such" as you put it. There are too many religions and to be fair to everyone it is better to leave such items to the individual and not in government institutions.

Answer 9

Yes I believe in God but I am not a religious fanatic. No I am not a vampire that fears the sight of a cross or a bible. Maybe you mean Atheists. lol. My family is Christian but I choose not to attend church and be a Christian. For the reason that I have strong opinions that religious people judge others too much. It shouldn't matter what others are doing and what others believe in. Its like politics you religious people tend to think its my way or no way. Be open minded and quit judging. Be tolerant and forgiving of others and they will be of you.

Answer 10

Well, I think the point of separation of Church and State is that you can't use someones tax dollars to build something that promotes one particular religion. I know it is very controversial issue but I think the underlying rule is pretty simple. And in line with the point you made, "believers" won't really need state owned public display to keep their faith.