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how is it that we can support the church fully if they have worked so hard to try to cover up the past. i know this sounds a little like heresy but still, you have to think true to yourself sometimes. im just not sure what to think about it, so many are taking this as a gift and others are just taking it and going with it, but how many books were destroyed? and how can we continue jjust trusting?

2006-06-05 17:55:35 · 11 answers · asked by thepopcornplaya 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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While the Christian church certainly has covered up many things, the Gnostic texts are not necessarily among them, including the Book of Judas.

In order to form Christianity, and to break from Jews, and to attract more followers, and absorb other religious traditions, there were many writings and ideas that could have caused problems for the early Church fathers. Most of the Gnostic gospels teach that the kingdom of God is within; if so, there was no need for a church, as each person could find it for him or her self.

Many Gnostic gospels (which were written at basically the same time as the other gospels) were omitted or edited when decisions were made on what would be considered the books of the "New Testament." There are some records to support this, but most have been lost to time.

I suppose the decision is whether you would trust religion or your own spirituality.

2006-06-05 18:17:16 · answer #1 · answered by blueowlboy 5 · 0 1

The church, despite what many are saying right now, did not rewrite the Bible.

The Concil of Nicea is true. And there were votes on many Christian believes. None of the votes actually resulted in covering up anything. Dan Brown's claim that Jesus' divinity was a narrow vote IS NOT TRUE. Jesus' divinity was almost unanimous.

The idea that at the council of Nicea, books that made Jesus look human were discarded is a lie. The books that were voted to be kept out of the Bible were, in fact, books that made Jesus seem MORE godly.

However, it is true that Roman Catholicism adopted many pagan traditions and holidays.

But, relatively recent findings and subsequent re-translations of the Bible (predating 300 AD) prove that there was never any mass cover up or destroying of books.

The book of Judas was NOT written by Judas. You have to realize this when you start evaluating it. Similarly, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John were NOT written by the authors titled. (Same for Mary, Jesus, and Phillip)

The Book of Judas is not Christian. Nor is it entirely Gnostic. It is an apostasy of both. All of these apostate Gnostic texts were found in the 1940s at Nag Hammadi, Egypt. No one has really even cared about them until now.

Now that translations are being published, people suddenly think something big is happening.

Now your views on theology and "church" are another story. Don't trust the church. Trust God.

God Bless. Love Wins.

2006-06-05 18:34:02 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I have a problem with the Book of Judas because it is not part of the Bible and has not been for centuries. I hope they do not try to add this to the Bible because the Bible warns to not add to it or take away from it. The books that are in there now were carefully selected hundreds of years ago and do not contradict each other. I have personally not read this other book and do not plan to. Everything I need to know, I have already. That is how I can be saved. That is the main thing we need to know. It is in the Bible already, we do not need anything else. The Bible is about Jesus. That is the point from beginning to end.

2006-06-05 18:04:31 · answer #3 · answered by braleygirl 3 · 0 0

The bible was editted for messages. The one we use today was carefully chose by the leaders of the Church. Actually, if you compare a Catholic bible to a Prostant one, you will notice that the old testiments differ. A catholic bible has more books (Sirah, Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, and more of Esther) than the Prostant translation.
I look forward to reading what the gospel of Judas has to say. I'm also looking for the Gospel of Mary, the Gospel of Thomas and the Gospel of Truth. I figure the release of thses documents can only help me understand the historical man, Jesus of Nazareth.
Ultimately, we have to keep trusting. We have to trust in God. We have to trust in the people of God. We have to have faith. So, whether or not you want to accept the release of these books, or whatever, its up to you.

2006-06-05 18:00:42 · answer #4 · answered by magicwriter65 4 · 0 0

If it bothers you that this book was supressed by the church, you should read up on the mass book burnings and executions the early church undertook to rid the world of all differing perspectives. Christians destroyed everything they could get their hands on other than the Bible, and sent the western world into the dark ages as a result.

If that hadn't happened, humanity probably would have reached it's current point of scientific knowledge over 1000 years ago. We'd probably have transporters, warp drive, and replicators by now.

2006-06-05 17:59:11 · answer #5 · answered by lenny 7 · 0 0

The Catholic Church tried burning the Bible too. Ever hear of the Wycliffe Bible? It was created so the common people could read the Bible too. The Catholic Church killed who ever was a part of it and burned every Bible they could find, so people wouldn't realize how unBiblical their institution was.

If anything, the small number of gnostic gospels found simply shows that they contain as little facts as the early Church realized (and I mean actual Christian church or universal body of believers, not the damnable later Catholic Church) and that unlike the New Testament which has over 20,000 manuscripts of which 99.5% agree word for word, they are not divinely preserved.

2006-06-05 18:19:37 · answer #6 · answered by jzyehoshua1 3 · 0 0

Have faith in God but not exactly in the Church isn't it? The Church, without denying , has undoubtly hidden many various points in Jesus's life that might change the faith... And I hate them for that, but knowing them as God's tool for spreading Christian faith, I see them as good people. But still there is no solid proof that the writer of the Gospel of Judas is trustworthy or really have seen or heard of the life of Jesus so I stick to what I know about Jesus.

My point is that, whatever Jesus did during his life, whether the statement is fom various undocumented Gospels, whether Judas didn't really betray Jesus, or Mary Magdalene is really Jesus's spouse or whether they have a daughter does not bother me chronically. It shook me when I've read about it but I can say: "so what?" All I know is that I have my faith intact and Jesus really saved the world from sins. But there's no point denying that noone really knows the life of Christ without any flaws or have the ability to state all the facts...

2006-06-05 18:10:23 · answer #7 · answered by J.M. 2 · 0 0

Check for me, is that part of the Gnostic Gospels? If it is, well, the Gnostics were written much after the other Gospels were written. And the Gnostics do not believe in Jesus. They believe in salvation through knowledge. I answered something about the Gnostic Gospels before. Check my answer for that. It's a long answer, so I can't just copy and paste. Basically it's saying the Gnostic Gospels aren't Christian or biblical.

2006-06-05 18:01:18 · answer #8 · answered by JG 3 · 0 0

No. He ought to take delivery of existence with out parole for each of the sufferers he killed. If he's saved alive, all those who aided and abetted him in practise for the Boston adventure will always be fearfull that he ought to communicate and show them. also, in some unspecified time sooner or later, he ought to easily tell the actuality which may carry about the apprehension of different terrorists. extra, he should be uncovered to the wrath of the different prisoners.

2016-12-06 10:12:31 · answer #9 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

The truth is the BIBLE is nothing more than RELIGIOUS IDEOLOGY. Just like the history you learn in middle school and high school- it is based on IDEOLOGY.

Pure Fact.

2006-06-05 18:10:47 · answer #10 · answered by Hinata 2 · 0 0

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