Amen.... everyone is going to say this and that about rules in the books and blah blah blah.... No-one will deny that Pete Rose was wrong in doing what he did BUT his individual stats were NEVER compromised or questioned. He obtained those stats ALL on his own.... The books will open up for him. Especially if all these other drug clowns make it in.
2008-01-01 04:10:22
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answered by Mike B 3
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Right! You're a genious because you know for a fact that Barry Bonds took steroids. Luckily, we still live in America where it's innocent until proven guilty. Do you actually think that Bonds will be found guilty for perjury? Look at his lawyers they will have a field day with why it took so long to even get an indictment 4 years and two grand juries.
As for Pete Rose he denied betting on games for years. He even did it while managing his team. He said he only bet for his team to win, bla bla bla. He lied for years stated that he never ever betted on baseball. Until he finally caved and told somewhat of a truth about it. Then more and more of the truth came out of him! Rose should prove to fans that he doesn't gamble on anything anymore and start educating others about the dangers of gambling before even being able to even be considered for reinstatement into baseball.
For Bonds, until someone can find definitive proof that he took steroids with his own knowledge then there's nothing baseball can do, right now it's all about sports writers trying to gain fame and fortune from it. Weren't there two reporters from the San Francisco Chronicle who leaked out some of the grand jury statements and wrote a book? Yes, that's right that's what happened.
2008-01-01 10:04:47
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answered by Steven R 6
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Barry Bonds is a 7 time MVP, long before the roids thing became the in thing to do he was laready going to be elected to the HOF. His credentials had already been established and what he was doing wasn't prohibited. He as well as a bunch of others (keep that in mind, his name comes up but there is a huge pack of folks in question), look for any edge.
Pete Rose was a player and a manager. he could control a game via his play, his managerial moves, etc. So if he bet on his team, he could alter the game. Since he was also on the isndie, he knew about plaeyrs, injuries etc and could profit from the inside knowledge.
Baseball is based on everybody giving their best, but when money is involved and a profit to be gained, things can change and be tampered with.
Plus as noted, Pete Rose knew the rules and deliberately violated them.
I think he belongs in the HOF in actuality, but he needs to fess up, apologize like heck and be contrite, not arrogant.
2008-01-01 03:38:13
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answered by vettedude02 2
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Because MLB and Selig blew the call. Look, just because steroids is bad, that's no reason to let Rose in. There is just the one and only thing a guy has to keep from doing, and the moron did it. You don't let robber's go because murder is worse. Of course, there should be a 2nd rule: Use PEDs, you're out. Just as with gambling. The Players Association wouldn't allow it but it SHOULD be the rule. The way things are right now, you'd have to let Bonds in. That doesn't absolve Rose.
2008-01-01 01:55:05
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answered by Sarrafzedehkhoee 7
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exactly.
2007-12-31 17:54:23
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answered by TheBostonBuckeye 5
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Barry should be banned for life too.. Cheating with your body is much worse than cheating on a game.
2007-12-31 17:34:24
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answered by Sharon S 7
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How about Roger Clemens?
2007-12-31 17:29:22
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answered by elias 6
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You are confusing one type of cheating and it's effects with another.
The integrity of baseball is PARAMOUNT, a record isn't.
Rose knew gambling on baseball was illegal, but still did it and he had seen people banned for it. By consciously doing it, what he said was "I'm bigger than the game" and he's not.
Now, fans, writers and players know what Bonds did and he may pay the price in the HOF, but MLB also knew what he did and still they did nothing.
The two crimes aren't comparable in the eyes of baseball and people should stop justifying letting Rose in based on a different kind of cheating.
Plus, if you let Rose in (or make him eligible) what message does that send about the rules. If you aren't going to enforce them, then get rid of the rules and then no fan can be sure about the integrity.
Lastly, to people that don't think in the one dimension of a single #, Bonds may have broken the #, but not the accomplishment.
When Arod beats Bonds and everyone cheers, don't think for a moment that the record will be safe all of a sudden with Arod, someone else will beat him and someone else will beat that guy.
The home run record will be ever changing as long as the game still continues to be about home runs and their awe.
2007-12-31 17:03:36
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answered by brettj666 7
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all pete did. you are a real dipshit there buddy.
2007-12-31 16:57:55
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answered by Anonymous
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Hate to let you in on this little enlightening thing, but Pete Rose violated the basic contractual agreement between him and Major League Baseball by gambling on baseball. THAT is what got him banned from the game.
Barry Bonds got his record, but if you think it is "free and clear", then you have deluded yourself. There is - and always will be - the question of "did he"? And I think there is way too much that states "Yes, he did". He may have the record, but I am willing to bet it won't be for long, and I would be surprised if he gets into the HOF.
There will always be an * by anything that Bonds does if he is not caught for juicing. Everyone will always question what he has done. I don't think that can be very gratifying - even for someone as arrogant as Barry Bonds.
2007-12-31 16:02:49
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answered by volleyballchick (cowards block) 7
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