A Question for Liberals????

Question

#1: During this time of "war" against the terrorists, do you think it is wrong of the Govt. to "spy" on telephone calls in an attempt to obtain information???

#2: Do you realize that in case a domestic drug deal was made on one of those spied on calls, it wouldn't be admissable evidence, due the nature in which it was obtained?

#3: If you want to end terrorism, and you are a law abiding citizen, how do you justify your opposition to this metod of obtaining information?

I am not trying to envoke typo warfare here...I am a conservative, but I am curious as to the liberal's real motivation of the opposition to this....

I KNOW terror isn't something you can declare war on...that's why I put "WAR" in these thingies """"" silly

trackteen, I'm impressed for a teen...however, i do not consider our INITAIAL involvement in Iraq a part of the "war" on terror. It was more a "war" of oil facists and control freaks. We are however sustaining our presence there due to the "war" on terror. Muslim terrorist extremist groups are training the insurgents and providing aid. Going there was a Bush error and it led to present day troop commiments.But in the attempt to secure freedom at home, we are subject to "spygate". Is that right? That's where I want to see the Liberals response. In spygate, we are really "talking" about America and who's here doing what.....

FOR THE MOST PART THESE ARE GREAT ANSWERS. THANKS!!!

OH, I'll let the voters pick best answer...it is an opinion ? and I cannot say which is best. I am impressed with the views and knowledge shared.

And the only thing I have to say about using the spygate info to obtain an actual wiretap warrant...well, don't commit criminal acts and then talk about them on the phone.

I put this one to the voters because I am not going to "choose" one opinion over another. Great answers, and everyone has good points.

Just want to add why i would like to see our involvement in te "war" on terror continue. I do not want to see suicide bomings here on US soil, nor do I want someone blowing up our bases, airports, rail systems, etc. This"war" is best fought across the pond folks...or will it take losing someone you love in a random terrorist attack to convince you of that?

Answer 1

Ben Franklin said " Those that are willing to give up freedom for temporary safety deserve neither."
That's my answer to all three of your questions.

Answer 2

"Terrorism" is a term obviously designed for political manipulation.

Answer 3

My objection is not to the gathering of intelligence. That is an appropriate task for some agencies of the government. My objection is to the idea that there need be no oversight.

You may have heard the saying that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. If the agencies involved have an absolute right to do as they please in spying (or more accurately gathering data) on any of the millions of Americans who have not really committed a crime and are not particularly suspected of committing a crime, those agencies can, if they are not adequately observed, start files like the "Hoover files" on ordinary people simply because they disagree with the political stances those people take. As another poster said, it may be a common practice, but it is as antithetical to American ideals as such behavior gets.

It is not, I repeat, the gathering of intelligence that concerns me. It is the reluctance to have methods, results, and uses of data scrutinized by legitimate court or Congressional panels, and thus kept appropriate that bothers me.

At the beginning of the Iraq war, I wondered, "Why not simply wait the 90 days that the French and Russians want us to wait?" There was no good answer then. Today when I hear of warrant-less wire taps, I have to wonder, "Why not just go through the established protocols of getting a warrant?" I suspect there is no good answer now, either.

Answer 4

1,2, 3 (combined-ish) yes its wrong. first of all, this so-called war was bushs own fault. secondly, it is an invasion of privacy. and if bush hadnt gone to iraq "they have weapons of mass destruction" (which, there never were any) we wouldnt be in this "war". ugh only one more year of bush...thankfully no longer. but its not really the fact that he phone tapped-its the fact that he didnt obtain a permit to do this, and he didnt warn anyone! now, im not hiding anything, and i think that phone tapping could be potentially useful.....but without warning his people? sure, that might give a heads up to dealers, but the whole purpose is not to arrest them and send em to prison. we want to change their lifestyle and so they stop becoming dealers..

now, this is all coming from a 15 yr old female, so dont think that this is what all liberals think. we are all entitled to our own opinions, so maybe you could share your views?

Answer 5

How many terrorist are there in the world? How much has been spent on killing them. How much has been made by the military industrial complex. How much had spending gone down on arms after the fall of the Berlin wall. So ask yourself is the reason that there is this idea of a war on terror to keep the shear price of Lockhead martin up and nothing to do with making the world a better place.

Answer 6

1&2 can be answered the same way, America was founded on freedom, James Otis said "A man's house is his castle", using the same principles, A man's conversations should be kept private, unless there is good reason to suspect he is doing wrong.
3 Terrorism does not happen everyday. 9/11 was one, terrible incident, you do not see people dying in America everyday because of terrorism. The Patriot Act has caught no one. If this be treason, make the most of it.

Answer 7

#1 terror is a tactic not something you can declare war on

#2 don't really care

#3 it's un-American...to act in such a manner is admitting defeat

BTW...i plan on voting for Huckabee...standing up for America and freedom is not limited to just liberals

Answer 8

Without aid of Miracle Ear, were liberal voices made audible in response to Clinton's domestic intel gathering?

To the extent that my knowledge permits, I know of no case in which the Patriot Act has been used to shut down some neo-hippy's grow room