Did your seminary teachers forget to tell you that much of Christianity is borrowed from the ideas of Plato?

Question

And Pythagoreas before him?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythagoras
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoplatonism

Your religion depends upon your enduring ignorance.

Answer 1

Lars, none of Pythagoras' writings survive, but certainly the old testament out dates him as he was a great mathemetician and philosopher in the fifth or sixth century before Christ. Could he have borrowed some of his stories from the old testament? Could you explain the dead sea scrolls or the early christians of Ethiopia?

Answer 2

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Answer 3

Council of Nicea, 325 A.D. = Yep, Jesus actually IS God... because our committee says so! Interesting how it took 325 YEARS for Christians to finally make this official.

Fourth Century A.D. = Christian bishop moves Jesus's birthday so that it will coincide with the biggest Pagan festival of the year!

First 3 Gospels = Jesus says nothing on the cross before he dies, 4th Gospel says he cried out, which would have been physically impossible because crucifixion is a form of suffocation so he would not have been able to say a word.

Jesus was taken off the cross after he died = this can NOT be true because the Romans left their crucifixions on the cross to rot as an example to those who would dare to disobey the Roman Empire, so if Jesus was never buried, how did he rise up from the grave that he was never put in?

There's more, but you got it. If Christians actually knew the truth about the origins of their church, there wouldn't be many, if any, Christians left. The same goes for a lot of other religions too. And aren't there 1,600 different denominations of Christianity? Maybe HUMANITY has more to do with it than a belief based on the "distortions of history".

Answer 4

That's alright, you have a right to that hogwash you are spieling, I guess you will find out the truth when you close your eyes for the last time on this planet, then you will know, only problem is....It will be too late for you. I think I'll go with the Alpha and Omega instead of your ignorant selfish blather you are spieling, Believe what you want, it's a free country.

Answer 5

You are right. Plato is about logical speculation. Christianity is not about logic to its adherents, but faith.

Maybe there is nothing wrong with Christians appropriating the logical speculation of Plato. Rationalists have done the same thing. Maybe it allows their religion to have more relevance to a secular world.

Also, there is nothing wrong with Wikipedia, but as an authoritative source, it may be a bit light on.

Cheers!

Answer 6

True Christianity does not take in the teaching of Plato. Plato's teachings were fused into Apostate (Falling away from the true teachings) Christianity around the 8th century AD or CE by a Pope that championed Plato's works. The doctrines that have been produced from this fusion is not scripture based.

Paul is his letters encouraged the Christian congregations to stay away from the Greek Philosophers.

Plato's works are not part of Christianity but doctrine of Catholicism

Answer 7

I didn't have a seminary teacher. I had a relious teacher though. He told me to trust in my conscience and follow that. That's what made me open to many ideas, and made the idea of attacking those who don't believe the same religion I do an abhorent idea. I believe God has made us all unique, and to insult his plan or idea is a bad thing.

I appreciate those who don't agree with my religous beliefs. Because that means they have just as strong feelings about their religous beliefs, or lack of, as I do. However I, and those I talk with, have always remained civil because the exchange of ideas is the most important thing, in my opinion.

I hope you could learn from this, and become a better, less hate filled person But that's up to you.

Answer 8

It depends which Seminary one goes too. Many seminaries teach about how the Bible was influenced by Plato. Many seminaries also warn about taking the Bible literally and dogmatically. But the Bible also depends on Egyptian, Babylonian and Jewish mythology. Did you know there is absolutely no evidence, including archeological evidence or written evidence that the Jewish culture was enslaved by the Egyptians? You'd think something that huge would have alot of evidence to back it up from the slave quarters where they were kept. Come to think of it, there is no evidence of a burning bush or stone tablets either. HMMMMMMmmm.
I find it funny that the Christians don't mind if THEY mix religion with their politics, but as soon as a free thinker does it, then it's wrong.
Funny, you never mentioned if you were an atheist or not and all the Christians automatically think you are if you question their beliefs. Enduring ignorance on their part.

Answer 9

Lars, Lars, Lars.....

If your education comes from wikipedia, which it seems or you would have provided a real source, you are truely a pathetic soul who is to be pitied. You remind me of that little cartoon dog running around trying to get the attention of the big dog spike. Barkin and yippin.

We forgive you and pray for your quick recovery.

Understand in every religion there is politics. A religion is a conglomeration of historical facts, reported by men in a time when paper wasn't sold at Walmart. Watch CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC, HN, and you will get differences even when they are reading the liberal talking points. But you need to open your mind.

Answer 10

I beheld the infinate complexity of creation once I studied cell structure in Biology 100. It was then that I realized I was not an accident, but created with purpose...
Now, if you can say that the universe, and the delecate balances that keep the Earth hbitable are all an accident, who is being ignorant and nieve?

Oh and Lars...as my History senior thesis professor at UC Berkeley advized me in '05...(when I finished my history degree w/ honors) do not use Wikapedia...its full of all kinds of Crap! Read some books for a change if you want real information.