Have there been other technological civilizations in humanity's prehistory?

Question

Could a "Great Pyramid" be built today? I don't think so.

I'm defining "technological" as equal to or more advanced than our own. Two such civilizations acknowledged by the Hopi Indians in North America include Atlantis and Lemuria.

Jon,

Even if we concede that a Great Pyramid could be built with today's technology, the question still remains: How did the ancients do it without similar equipment? The Japanese tried to build a scale model in the 70s and failed miserably.

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See paragraph 4

Answer 1

Yes, according to Plato, there were former global technocultures that once existed on the earth that predated and far eclipse the technology of the ancient Grecian and Egyptian civilizations of his day. Plato relays of the inundation of these former technocultures by great earthshaking cataclysms; and the ancient record is full of data describing “cosmocataclysms” (recorded by postcatastrophic survivors) where “heaven and earth changed places”; “fire consumed the whole earth onto high heaven”; “the sea swallowed the land”; “north became south and south became north”; “great winds took away mountains”… clearly the result of mass celestial bombardment and the intrusion through our Solar System of a great extrasolar object (another star system), which precipitated pole shifts.

And you are correct in your observation that not even with our current modern and sophisticated technologies can we even remotely duplicate the construction and great precision of the enormous Great Pyramid of Giza, Egypt, let alone the primitive and archaic Ancient Egyptians. The fact is the Egyptians “inherited” (and claimed as their own) these structures in a postcatastrophic period from a former global technoculture… these structures were constructed by a former advance culture that was completely wiped away by one of the cosmocataclysms, an extinction level event.

Even the Great Sphinx of Giza was not originally an “androsphinx” with the head of a man as it is today. This is a postcatastrophic alteration. Originally, the Sphinx was a “criosphinx” having the head of a Ram. During the last cosmocataclysm its muzzle was completely sheared off. This is why the current human head is entirely disproportionate to the scale of the enormous lion body, looking like a pin-head in comparison to the body, and why the face is totally disproportionate ending at the hairline and having no skull cap or crown… the postcatastrophic sculptors were not left with a proper amount of material to sculpt a human head anatomically correct; they merely worked with what they had, with what was left over.

Plato alludes to the former global technoculture in his account of Atlantis. This was the cradle of Humankind. He never said that Atlantis “sank”, he said that the “sea rolled over” the continent island. This is in reference to “inertia” during a pole shift when the oceanic waters displace out of their basins and overrun the continents. Hence, Atlantis and the continent of Antarctica are actually one in the same, for formerly “before” the pole shift Antarctica (Atlantis) was located in the tropic belt above the equator when the earth had a different axial orientation and the Brazilian Highlands were the North Pole and the Philippines were the South Pole. This would position the Nile River Valley to run east and west in the Tropic Belt, thus explaining the water erosion evidence on the Great Sphinx as determined by geologist Dr. Robert Schoch. People have always erroneously believed that Atlantis sank in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean due to Plato’s clue that it was located west of the Pillars of Hercules” (Strait of Gibraltar). But they mis-assumed this erroneously based on the current axial orientation of the earth. In reality this clue is in reference to the original north and south orientation. Thus, when one turns a globe of the earth so that the Brazilian Highlands are the North Pole and then travel west from the Strait of Gibraltar, then they will arrive onto the shores of Antarctica (Atlantis).

Answer 2

Very often the claim is made "We can't build it today." However, we "can't build" 8 track tape players today. There's no demand, the technology used has evolved or been discarded, and there's many better alternatives. Today no students have the skills to use slide rules. Why? because they all use electronic calculators. Anyone want to give up their calculator for a slide rule?

Back in 1992 PBS ran "This Old Pyramid." They got a stone mason, some workers and gave them a couple of weeks to build a pyramid, the traditional way. During this time they had various people come by with their own theories of how it was done. It reached the point to where the foreman told the producers to stay out of his way and he'd get it done!

PBS and NOVA also did "Secrets of Lost Empires" where, among other things they raised an Egyptian obelisk. Again, by hand using the same techniques as the Egyptians.

The pyramid is a structure that that can be traced from the original Egyptian tombs. It's construction is depicted on tomb carvings. It takes time and a ready labor force, something Egyptians had in plenty. A great deal of the claims of "secret" techniques and "advanced science" simply don't work. One such person claimed the Egyptians made a stone slurry and poured the pyramid blocks in place! Faced with an actual block in a pyramid, he was hard put to explain the marks left by the tools that cut it.

The "other technological civilizations in humanity's prehistory" all require advance technology from what we have today, then that the civilization falls, then that all real traces of it disappear. Take today's technology. The aluminum beer can will outlast the pyramids. So where are the beer cans from "other technological civilizations in humanity's prehistory?"

Answer 3

Depends on how you define "technological." Sure, the cultures that built the pyramids in Mesoamerica and Egypt would probably qualify. The metallurgy of the ancient Middle East and Japan were remarkable, and ancient India produced amazing advances in astronomy, mathematics and other fields, including the earliest known stainless steel. China's inventions centuries before the same technologies appeared in the west are well-known. But I'd have to disagree with you about the pyramids. With modern earth-moving equipment, heavy-duty cranes, etc., it would be expensive, but not that technically challenging.

Answer 4

They found a belt buckle mad of aluminum in an ancient Chinese general's grave, Chow Chou, (or a variant spelling) and you can only process aluminum with a lot of electricity. Also, there's the distinct possibility that Europeans were using some kind of writing system well back in the stone age, Look up Azilian and Vinca.

There's also a lot of land now under about 400 feet of water, so you've no idea what hiding down there.

http://members.toast.net/rjspina/Japan's%20Underwater%20Ruins.htm

Also, there's this peice of text from the ancient Hindu text, the Ramayana.

…Gurkha, flying a swift and powerful vimana (fast aircraft) hurled a single projectile Charged with all the power of the Universe.
An incandescent column of smoke and flame
As bright as ten thousand Suns
Rose in all its splendor…

…it was an unknown weapon,
An iron thunderbolt,
A gigantic messenger of death,
Which reduced to ashes
The Entire race of the Vrishnis and thr Andhakas.

…the corpses were so burned
As to be unrecognizable.
Their hair and nails fell out;
Pottery broke without apparent cause,
And the birds turned white.

After a few hours
All foodstuffs were infected…

…To escape from this fire
The soldiers threw themselves in streams
To wash themselves and their equipment…

You may recognise 'As bright as ten thousand Suns' from Oppenheimer quoting it. He believed this to be evidence that nukes have been dropped before. The description of the hair and nails falling out is classic radiation poisoning. Also, the ancient Hindu texts are full of descriptions of spaceships and airplanes, and describe the nuking into non-existance of a big island in the Atlantic populated by 'Asuras', making it sink beneath the sea. Atlantis anyone?

One of my pet subjects. Something about human history is seriously messed up, and non-linear.

Answer 5

Archaeologically, we would expect a civilization as advanced as our own to leave ubiquitous, if at times unglamorous traces of its existence in the form of nonbiodegradable waste. Also, the domestication dates of most crops and husbanded animals are well established, and simply do not leave time for the development of advanced civilizations in prehistory, assuming such civilizations to be agriculturally based (as we clearly must).

Answer 6

I can't remember if it was the history channel or what, but they had a show about all the inventions and things they've begun finding in Chinese archaeology. They had full-fledged factories before Christ was even born, etc. You might try looking online or doing a search to see if you can find anything about it. It was a really neat show. :-)

Tink

Answer 7

exactly we are extremely backwards in comparison to our ancestors

and looking at the artistic merit of the century
basic vulgarity was all the rage and piles of S£"* sold as masterpieces?
the most popular for of entertainment involved sitting prostrated affront a light box...

ah the good old days!

Answer 8

You do not think a great pyramid could be built today??

Please reconnect with reality.