Abortion and the death penalty.....?

Question

How can people support abortion (killing the most innocent), and be against the death penalty (killing the most guilty)?
I'll never understand the way liberals think!

Answer 1

Nor will I! But one things for sure, they will all have to stand before the judgement of the Almighty God some day!

Answer 2

Actually, the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, certainly strongly anti abortion, has its own campaign to end the death penalty. To many people, however, these are different issues.

To cast rethinking the death penalty issue as just a liberal concern ignores others, including conservatives, who want our criminal justice system to be as good as it can be, given that it is adminstered by human beings, who are, by nature, fallible.

You don't have to sympathize with criminals or want them to avoid a terrible punishment to ask if the death penalty prevents or even reduces crime, to look at alternatives and to think about the risks of executing innocent people.

126 people on death rows have been released with proof that they were wrongfully convicted. DNA is available in less than 10% of all homicides and isn’t a guarantee we won’t execute innocent people.

The death penalty doesn't prevent others from committing murder. No reputable study shows the death penalty to be a deterrent. To be a deterrent a punishment must be sure and swift. The death penalty is neither. Homicide rates are higher in states and regions that have it than in those that don’t.

We have a good alternative. Life without parole is now on the books in 48 states. It means what it says. It is sure and swift and rarely appealed. Life without parole is less expensive than the death penalty.

The death penalty costs much more than life in prison, mostly because of the legal process which is supposed to prevent executions of innocent people.

The death penalty isn't reserved for the worst crimes, but for defendants with the worst lawyers. It doesn't apply to people with money. When is the last time a wealthy person was on death row, let alone executed?

The death penalty doesn't necessarily help families of murder victims. Murder victim family members across the country argue that the drawn-out death penalty process is painful for them and that life without parole is an appropriate alternative.

Problems with speeding up the process. Over 50 of the innocent people released from death row had already served over a decade. If the process is speeded up we are sure to execute an innocent person.

Answer 3

70% of pro-life activists are men, no uterus, no opinion. secondly to the conservatives, if the fetus you "save" turns out to be gay, will you still protect it's rights? Pro choice is not pro abortion, it is a choice, if you don't like abortions then don't have one but leave me my choice. Here is another fun fact, according to that bible life begins with blood, and blood is not present in the fetus until 20-30 days after conception. Leviticus 17; 14: "For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that maketh an atonement for the soul." So if you wanna reference the bible and use it for your reasoning, refer to it correctly. But isn't that why we supposedly have a separation of church and state. Medically up to 6 weeks after conception it is still referred to as an embryo, not a fetus, not a baby, an embryo, an egg. But I am for the death penalty in certain situations. And many may also be against the death penalty because death is to easy, the people should be forced to live through their suffering of life imprisonment where as a baby who wouldn't be cared for or wanted and would have a miserable life if born, death is the easiest route for that soon to be soul.

Answer 4

i dont see how the guy can see being pro-life for abortion and being for the death penalty is condradictory!?

conservatives like myself are generally against abortion because were against murder and we have a higher value on life to the point that life begins at conception and not at pregnancy

that 'clump of cells' as the other guy explained it was all of us at one point!!!!

liberals say they're pro-choice but really if they were to go back in time and let their mother have the choice to have an abortion instead of having them they would not be okay with that! but also what about the other less dangerous criminals in jail or the general public's right to protect themselves?

its all politics!

Answer 5

Ok, well not everyone shares your views on abortion and the death penalty. maybe you should open your mind to possibility that some one else sees the world differently then you, and has different morals.
By the way, I'm a liberal, and I take great offense at the way you refer to liberals like they're some kind of trash; how would you like it if I talked about how unreasonable conservatives are?

Answer 6

And the contrary position (taken by conservatives in most cases) is to protect the sanctity of life (by being pro-life) but supportin the death penalty. Can't explain that contradiction either.

Seems to be you should be all in or all out, but the larger question is they don't really belong in the same argument and it's an apples/oranges debate.

You'll never understand "liberals" because you don't want to. Acceptance that people disagree is the more logical way to go forward.

Answer 7

I think both are acceptable but capital punishment kills a person, abortion kills a clump of cells so i can see why someone would be against the death penalty and support a womans right to choose.

Answer 8

Hold onto your hat.

Religiously speaking, they are BOTH consistent. In both cases we are sending the soul to God for immediate judgement.

In the case of the most innocent, they obviously go to Heaven, which is a far better place to be than here on Earth, where they faced hardship and mental anguish because they were not wanted.

In the case of the most guilty, they obviously go to Hell, which is where they deserve to go as soon as possible.

I support immediate judgement. But of course, using a religious argument is a conservative tactic. Go put THAT in your pipe and smoke it.

Answer 9

Abortion = Reproductive rights
Death Penalty = State sanctioned murder
I'll never understand the way neocons think!

Answer 10

A lot of people who support abortion don't believe that fetuses have self awareness, they do not know they exist and they do not having feelings, etc., so they are not hurting it by not having it.