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Question

I do not know what the impression of China was when it was thousands years ago, and now I don't even want to know. However, since the Communists took the power of China, people in the world seem to dislike it so much, I really want to know some of the resons for my writing! Please do not make fun of any cultures, societies and governemnts! Tell me your true feelings. I appologize for those who do not like this question.

Answer 1

I have lived here for two years as an ex pat from the USA. Prior to that I had visited twice, and the first time was in 2003, pretty much believing that what I was going to see would be a good representation of the worst of humanity. I realized, after being here for 6 hours that maybe what I had been taught through our government and western press may not be altogether accurate. Now I know it is full of crap.

Here is something I have posted before about China.

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China is not communist nor is it socialistic.
It is also often referred to as totalitarian and a dictatorship.
Both are equally as wrong too.

Communism:
is the opposite of capitalism so therefore it is impossible they are communistic. The first people who were allowed to use limited capitalism were the farmers back in the 50's because of the failure of collective farming. The whole country is one huge capitalistic machine now.

Socialistic:
means the state controls all production, manufacturing and business. That is impossible as well since individuals own businesses and those state run businesses are a mixture of state and private working side by side. Currently today, less then 20% is state owned. 30 years ago it was 100%. Example, their oil industry is a mix of private and state working together and their cost per gallon of gas is $2.25. There are no taxes added, all the revenue and profits are done before that with both private and state profiting. The USA could do that same, but we'd rather pay $1 more per gallon then allow any kind of socialism to creep into our economy. Our socialism is through war for oil while ignoring what the people really need.

Totalitarian:
means the state controls all aspects of life. That is simply not the case as individuals are free to seek new employment, open businesses, travel at will, immigrate, buy homes, become rich, buy any consumer product they want without permission, in short, do just about anything the people in the west take for granted.

Dictatorship:
They have an election system in place that is at the province level. Those elected officials, who are elected by the people, are then sent to Beijing to represent the people there and those people elect the president, much like many government systems in the world, like Britain.

One party rule:
True, but in recent years the government is encouraging people from outside the party to become involved in government and politics. They can also hold high office, something that was unheard of a few years ago. China understands that it needs new blood in its system in order to survive and do the will of the people otherwise China will stagnate.

What type of government does China have?
At this point, it is hard to say, because it is a mixture of democratic ideals, federalism, socialism, and authoritarian. From what I can see, and how China likes change slowly, that it is slowly morphing into a democratic federal republic, much like the USA has now. But at their own pace, not the instant change that the west demands of China. China is smart enough to know that instant change can have social and political repercussions and its best to take it slowly as to not wake the angry dragon of discontent and descent.

Source:
My experience, living here as an ex pat from the USA
My web site.
http://www.pbase.com/sailingjim

http://www.china.org.cn
and see how their system works. Use their search engine and put in the words democracy, then communism, then socialism. You'll probably be surprised at the results you get. Keep in mind, the people read the same things you will read there.

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According to a 2005 congressional report, the USA exports 36% of the worlds trade in arms, some independent studies put that at up to 60%. On the other hand, in the same congressional report, it stated China exports 3% of the worlds arms.

http://www.globalissues.org/Geopolitics/ArmsTrade/BigBusiness.asp
You can download the congressional report there.

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Looking at the China bashing pragmatically instead of with a blind eye like so many do.

The Amnesty International types of organizations depend on donations to survive. Therefore, they have a vested interest to believe one side of the story while ignoring the other side to keep up the hate and the money coming in.

Therefore, what should be done is we need to look into the lifestyle of the CEO's of these organizations, what percentage of donations goes into education vs administrative, salaries, etc.

What I find disingenuous with so many people is they will selectively believe these organizations on issues they want to believe, while condemning them on issues they don't want to believe.

Much of the information comes from people who have a ax to grind, or the information is collected from 3rd and 4th parties. Remember, we went to war in Iraq, in part, because of the word of ex pats who made claims that have since been disproved, even outright lies.

I live here in China as an ex pat from the USA and teach in a college. I expected to meet dissidents, and to date, I have not met one. The people in China seem to be very apathetic and it took me a long time to figure out why. It's because they have more freedom then anytime in their history and they are grateful for that. The biggest complaint I have heard about the government from students is they don't spend enough on education.

A final thing to ponder is Tianamen Square. Few in the states know why it started. It was because the government cut back on college spending and the students were upset. It morphed into a democracy movement and the crowds were huge only because the people were curious. The reason the movement was brutally crushed (I do not support that) is because with world wide attention, plus it was all over the Chinese news that the government appeared to be weak and could possibly be overthrown. The aftermath of that, is anyones guess what they would have ended up with. We are now seeing what instant change has done in two countries that we have gone to war with that never had democracy before and have a long history of human rights abuses.

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They have a very stable society and government.
Foreign companies are not afraid to invest there.
China learns by its successes and mistakes.
China is a very old and wise country.
China has an over abundance of brain power
China is very innovative.
China is not afraid to go outside of their country for answers to questions and problems they have.
China is very careful not to let foreign investment take over like they allowed to happen two centuries ago.
China plans for the future through five year and one year plans that are changable.
China's government is slowly morphing into a federal democratic republic, much like the USA but at their own pace.
China realizes that to limit people in government only to one party is counter productive and in recent years is encouraging people outside the party to become involved in government and even run for office.

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What China has is a very stable government and society that understood that an uncontrolled birth rate is counter productive to its future.

Population
6.6 billion people world wide
1.3 billion people in China
1.1 billion people in India
300 million people in the USA

Birth rate (by percentage)
World birth rate 1.167%
China's birth rate 0.606%
USA's birth rate 0.894%
India's birth rate 1.606%

Birth rate (per 1,000)
World
Birth rate:
20.09 births/1,000 population (2007 est.)
Death rate:
8.37/1,000 population (2007 est.)

China
Birth rate:
13.45 births/1,000 population (2007 est.)
Death rate:
7 deaths/1,000 population (2007 est.)

USA
Birth rate:
14.16 births/1,000 population (2007 est.)
Death rate:
8.26 deaths/1,000 population (2007 est.)

India
Birth rate:
22.69 births/1,000 population (2007 est.)
Death rate:
6.58 deaths/1,000 population (2007 est.)

So as you can see, India's birth rate is widely out of balance.

The reason the USA's birth rate is so low is because of economics and education. Economic because in the USA it is very expensive to raise a child, and then factor in higher education, medical care, etc, the cost becomes astronomical.

Literacy rates:
World
definition: age 15 and over can read and write
total population: 82%
male: 87.4%
female: 77%

China
Literacy:
definition: age 15 and over can read and write
total population: 90.9%
male: 95.1%
female: 86.5% (2000 census)

USA
Literacy:
definition: age 15 and over can read and write
total population: 99%
male: 99%
female: 99% (2003 est.)

India
Literacy:
definition: age 15 and over can read and write
total population: 61%
male: 73.4%
female: 47.8% (2001 census)

It does not stop there because in India, as well as China, there are long held customs. In China, before the one child rule, it was common for families to have 5 to 10 children. China had to do something, thus forcing the population to comply.

The only way India is going to slow down its birth rate is to pass strict laws. I do not know if that would work or not, but I have a feeling, since religion is so strong in India, that it would be an uphill battle, maybe impossible.

Religious:

China
About 30% (according to a private study conducted in China last year)
USA
About 90%
India
About 99%

China has often been accused of practicing gender selection because boys are highly prized over girls. Thus they will have huge social problems in the future. That is not altogether true.

World wide, natural selection is 1.07 males born for every female.
China 1.11 males
USA 1.05 males
India 1.12 males

It looks like India uses gender selection thru abortion in excess of China. China has taken note and curtailed the use of sonograms and put in place laws preventing the practice, though they admit it will be hard to enforce.

I know that India has family planning for years, obviously it is not doing the job as intended and India will soon surpass China as the most populated country in the world.

Poverty
China
10% below the poverty rate
USA
12% below the poverty rate
India
25% below the poverty rate

Income disparity:
World
Household income or consumption by percentage share:
lowest 10%: 2.5%
highest 10%: 30.2% (2002 est.)

China:
Household income or consumption by percentage share:
lowest 10%: 1.6%
highest 10%: 34.9% (2004)

USA
Household income or consumption by percentage share:
lowest 10%: 1.9%
highest 10%: 29.9% (2000)

India
Household income or consumption by percentage share:
lowest 10%: 3.6%
highest 10%: 31.1% (2004)

Military expenditures:

World wide:
2% of gross product

China
4.3% of gross domestic product

USA
2.5% of gross domestic product

India
4.06% of gross domestic product

NOTE: China has made a pledge to the world and its people it will not invade a sovereign nation. The USA has made no such pledge.
Last year China reduced its military by 1 million. It is currently modernizing its military because it can now afford too instead of as before, where they robbed the people.

Most of this can be found at the CIA web site, the world facts book.
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/countrylisting.html

While this is mostly raw data, it does point out some serious problems in India.

Other information about China can be found at:
http://www.china.org.cn
or
http://english.people.com.cn/index.html

You can find more information about China through the links above, or go to my profile and look up posts I have made in regards to China, their government, society and military along with this issue that you brought up.

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Fact:
China stated they would reduce their military active military force by 1 million two years ago and met that goal this year.

Fact:
China has publicly stated they will not pre-emptively attack a sovereign nation and their history proves that.

Fact:
Taiwan has a historical connection to China and in the past it was a province. China wants it back under the concept of one country, two governments, same as Hong Kong.

Fact:
Taiwan and China has normal trade, tourism, cultural and scientific exchanges, diplomatic missions, etc, in each others countries.

Once a year or so they dust off their sabers and rattle them at each other, then go back to normal relations. I suspect it is to appease the haters on both sides and for the USA. I think that Taiwan and China will be reunited peacefully after China has had enough government change and its economy is number one that it would be in the best interests of each country to unite for their common good.

Fact:
The last invasion China did was in the late 70's when they invaded Vietnam because they were giving China a lot of trouble on their southern border. The war lasted one month to the day and China then left, slamming the door behind them and pretty much said, 'screw with us again and we'll come back and do it worse.' Seems to have worked.

Fact:
China, as indicated above, has little experience waging war. The war in Vietnam got bogged down during the second week and China had to regroup. That was because of bad planning due to lack of experience. How in the world is China going to go up against the USA experience? By getting it from other places? Yet China does not have an imperialistic nature. Can you honestly say they will take a few thousand years of not being imperialistic and understanding its shortcomings to reversing that?

Fact:
Mao was going to invade Taiwan in the early 50's but then the Korean war happened and McArthur, upon reaching the China border, made overtures that Beijing would be next, thus saving Taiwan because Mao sent his army in and pushed the Americans down almost off the Korean Peninsula.

Fact:
China is going through much needed modernization of its military because it economy can now afford it. They have no intention of building a massive blue water fleet, or an army that can invade other countries.

Fact:
China is not imperialistic whatsoever. It's history proves that and the wisdom of China understand that to push itself onto others is expensive, counter productive to their economy and produces a lot of hate from other countries. Why in the world would China want to do that when they are doing it better economically that can be controlled, whereas war and its outcome usually ends up not as envisioned?......our two wars prove that. Vietnam proves that as well.

Fact:
China is communism in name only, even Henry Kissinger and many others agree to that. Capitalism and communism are polar opposites. China is not socialistic either because they have a free market system. Nor are they a dictatorship since their leadership is elected by their legislative body, much like what is done in England and other countries. Nor are they totalitarian since that means that every aspect of a citizens life is controlled and yet the people can go into business, quite their job, move and travel at will, and travel outside the country.

What is China's government? Slowly morphing from communistic totalitarian state to a capitalistic socialistic democratic republic, much like our own, at their own pace, not the pace the west wants. China is smart enough to understand that instant change often has negative social consequences. Our two wars prove that.

I fail to understand how all you armchair generals seem to know so much about war and how to wage it, but know squat about China and its history. Thus making bone headed accusations, assumptions, and predictions.

I know, I live in China as an ex pat from the USA and I, like you, believed all the china crap till I really started looking into it. That is when I realized, that what we are spoon fed and what is reality are usually two different animals. The wars we are in prove that, and the pending war in Iran prove that as well. All we have to really go on is what the government is telling us. We should all know better not to trust them now, yet we still do.

Now to answer the question:
China is not our biggest enemy. They do a great job in planning for their future. They have gone from an economic has-been 20 years ago to world class, and that was done through a series of 5 year plans. Our biggest ally is China and its planning - we can learn so much from them. Our biggest enemy is ourselves because we don't plan and instead just muddle along as we have done for decades -- which served us well -- but now in this global economy, lack of planning is going to be our biggest enemy------NOT CHINA.


China is much of what we want her to be and little of what we think she is.

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Life is so simple, but we insist on making it complicated.

Confucius
551 - 479 BC
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Peace

Jim

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Answer 2

I do not dislike China. I think the most important quality for a country to have is a decent standard of living for all its citizens. I understand that China has made a lot of progress in this direction in the last thirty or forty years. I don't think Communism is the best system of government to achieve this, but I certainly don't think we (the U.S.) should start a war with them to try to force them to become a democracy.

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Answer 4

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Answer 5

I dislike its government and not the nation as with every other nations in the world.

I will answer with my other post that summarizes what is China in this world and what its people, not its rulers, want:
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20141023065539AAdvTYe

Answer 6

I should say that I am not racist against the Chinese people, just critical of their government.
-They have no respect for human rights
-They are uptight, don't like to cooperate with other nations
-They are communists: deny their people a voice, control
everything they do, right down to every day life (Internet...)
-Continue to destroy environment, worse: no plans to change
-Not fighting terrorism
-Standing in the way of new trade sanctions on evil countries
-No religious freedom
-Atheism is official
-Not making safe products, they know that, but still export
them
-Secretly building up their military. This really worries me.
Are lying to the world's face about how much they are
spending on military
-Lying to the world on the value of their currency
-Cheating on world trade for their own selfish reasons
-Taken over independent countries and "Chinaized" them
(Tibet, Taiwan)
The list goes on!

Answer 7

First of all, I don't know what kind of a job I'd do if I had to govern 1.3 billion people. But I am disgusted at China's policies on human rights, their brutal occupation of Tibet, and their atrocities at Tienanmen Square.

Answer 8

Um...i don't dislike China. I think it has problems but is not a bad country. I know the problems have been mentioned above so no use in repeating them, but I would like to point out why...cause the way the gov't runs just doesn't allow most of those issues. China's already clearing up a bunch of those issues, but haven't gotten to them all. I do recognize some issues that are very urgent that they seem to ignore. But I wouldn't suggest bashing China.

Btw...China was the pinnacle of human civilization thousands of years ago. China compared to the rest of the world was equivalent to comparing the US to Pakistan.

Answer 9

I am against their Arms build up for a potential World domination in the future.