Isn't It Ironic That Muslims & Christians Lecture Hindus About The Caste System?

Question

Isn't it ironic that Muslims and Christians lecture Hindus about the caste based discrimination and the mistreatment of dalits when in fact it is both their religions that are responsible for the mess that India finds itself today???

The caste based discrimination has NOTHING to do with Hinduism as a religion...In India there are millions of people living in poverty who are not "untouchables"...many brahmins (the "upper class") are also living in dire poverty....People seem to think that in India the poor shudras are suffering while the upper castes are driving around in Bentleys...Little do the fools know that in India poverty is something that cuts across caste and creed...The problem isn't Hinduism, but poverty and illiteracy...Do you think that before Muslims and Christians came to India to exploit it and rob its wealth, the "untouchables" were as unhappy as they are today....During India's golden era, the dalits had a much higher standard of living than what they have today.

The reason that there is so much caste based discrimination is because of poverty and illiteracy....It is poverty that has caused masses of shudras and dalits living in sub human conditions...This is turn was brought about by the centuries of exploitation that Islam and Christianity undertook in India...So before Muslims and Christians get on their high horse and give lectures to us...maybe they should go back and take classes in history.

Are you blind or are you just stupid harsh??? Buy some glasses or take up some english lessons...Re-read what I have written and then come again....I am talking about the Indian golden era which existed centuries before the muslims and British came to India....fool

Answer 1

yes it is ironic. my friend is christian, n she's told me that even christianity has castes like hinduism.

n, about that indian caste system - today, the 'upper caste' people r suffering, because they r being exploited a lot. 'lower caste' people get benefits because of their 'caste' even if they don't deserve them. they make a big issue of their 'caste' so that they can get as many benefits as possible. n this inequality of today is the root cause of many problems in india.

Answer 2

The need of the hour is to pool resources by all Indians to treat the malaises afflicting the body politic of the Indian nation.

This can be done by a common action. Throwing slime won't help, not in the least.

You have rightly enough diagnosed the ailments as poverty and illiteracy. But here's the cue!

The most deadly disease seriously crippling India and the Indians is the habit of almost many Indians to blame other communities for the mess.

Each one of us should be proud of the cultural mosaic that is India. There is surely strength in unity and sure demise in the mud-slinging exercise -- which is more often than not resorted to people who cannot call a spade a spade.

Your logical conclusions would definitely shake awake the Indians from their slumber.

Let's take lessons from our glorious history and confidently look forward to a prosperous future. It will be a daunting but not an impossible task for each Indian -- be he/she be a Muslim, a Christian, a Hindu or for that matter from any religious sect or community!

Answer 3

It is better for you to learn more than just trying to escape from the reality.There was a cast system,There is a cast system,and there will be a cast system in India and especially amoung our hindu brethren.No body blames the hindu Religion! But it is the Cukture and the system which should be blamed. Ther are very poor and illetrate Muslims and Christians but no one practises the cast system of race and creed,!

Answer 4

Caste system

There seems to be a lot of confusion about the caste system these days. Lord Krishna has said that through the distribution of the gunas - qualities - and karma - actions - the four castes were created by Him. He said: "Though I am the author thereof, know Me to be actionless and changeless." Is caste an inheritance, flexible, or something we create; do we follow our own ways, our likes and dislikes, our own choice? I met a man who talked a lot against the caste system, and I said that I could not agree more, though he was not talking against the caste system but against caste prejudice. That gave him a shock. This prejudice is the problem.

What is the value of the caste system? What is its contribution? The Vedas, Manu and Lord Krishna Himself speak about it, but none of the scriptures really talk against the caste system. Lord Krishna said; "I created the castes, the caste system is created by me through the distribution of gunas and karma, meaning that according to what we do in this world here, so will our character be." Lord Krishna said: "Though I am the Creator of these things, do not think that I am partial, that I am taking sides, that I am performing actions; I am beyond the gunas.

Some people say that the gunas are inherited, that the caste system is inherited; others say that it is only functionary so that we can regulate society and develop progress, that without some function, some system, we cannot progress. Both are correct. What is necessary is to know that the caste system exists since the Vedic time and it has produced a lot of things, all the great things we can think about and are proud of: our concept and philosophy of life, our dharma, our science, mathematics, and astronomy, they all come from the caste society, the Sanskrit language. When we look at how much it has contributed to us, we can see where we have gone wrong.

Is technological development the cause of the bomb that fell on Hiroshima? We cannot blame technology for that. It is how we, human beings, use technology - like killing one another. Similarly, we cannot blame the caste system for the prejudices that have developed in modern times. One caste against the other - these are human failures, human negative attitudes. Technology has done very beautiful things for us, we are lucky. It has given us many things, but we use it to make, for example, atom bombs to kill people. It was not meant for that purpose; it was meant to bring happiness to mankind, to give comfort, not to destroy man. Similarly, the caste system has given us many good things. We cannot blame the caste system.

Answer 5

Rewriting history is what the people in power always do. Now that the Christians and Islamics are not in power feel free to rewrite history all you want. No one in there right mind thinks that Hinduism is any worse than any other religion. The one exception is of course the particular religion that the person follows is always the best. If one did not think that his own religion was best one would not follow it.
You may believe that your religion is the best and it may very well be. It still has something wrong with it. It's concepts may have been created by gods but it is implemented by people. Nothing people have ever done has been perfect.
In the United States where I live we have had our prejudices. I don't know what my own prejudices are. If I could see them myself they would not be prejudices. Do not feel bad that you can not see your own. Your country may be very different than it was last century but some people who lived then, are still making decisions in your country.

Answer 6

As I learned it, the caste system in India is one of the oldest, if not THE oldest, system of social hierarchy in the known world. Within the four principal castes, there are thousands of sub-castes, also called jatis, groups that are further divided along occupational, sectarian, regional and linguistic lines. Though there is some relationshi[p between the Hindu religious belief and the caste system. According to the Rig Veda, sacred texts that date back to oral traditions of more than 3,000 years ago, progenitors of the four ranked varna groups sprang from various parts of the body of the primordial man, which Brahma created from clay. Inequalities among castes are considered by the Hindu faithful to be part of the divinely ordained natural order and are expressed in terms of purity and pollution. Like anything else it has become a traditional part of Indian life.
I can understand why the sermons of others are a source of irony. Christianity, though I won't talk about Islam because I understand it so little, also has a long history of raising itself above the "lower classes" to be in control. This isn't quite the same as caste, but as a tool for keeping people in their places, it amounts to the same thing.
The first four varnas apparently existed in the ancient Aryan society of northern India. During the golden era in India, there was a rich and thriving civilization, and much more equality among the different divisions than there is today. I suspect much of European class prejudices "rubbed off" on the upper classes during all the periods of colonization that India has seen through the centuries. Caste, incidentally, is a Portugues word,derived from "casta" , meaning breed, race, or kind. I would agrue, though, that it is not religion that is responsible for the society in India today, but rather politics. Exploitation for gain by other countries...most notable England, is political, not religious. Left to itself, any society will flourish, or decline, but with interference from others it happens more rapidly, radically and permanently.

Answer 7

From presonal experience, I see the problem with the caste system being that members of the upper castes don't see those of lower castes as human, let alone equals.

A few years ago, I met an Indian woman, a university professor, who was studying cattle artifical insemination techniques at Lincoln University (Jefferson City, Missouri). Back in India, she and her husband had a housekeeper. The professor's apartment in Missouri had an automatic dishwasher and when it was mentioned that her housekeeper would surely appreciate one, with a confused exrpession on her face, the professor's reply was "Why???"

This obviously intelligent woman didn't see her housekeeper as a fellow human being who would appreciate being relieved of physical labor. Instead, the housekeep might as well have been a workhorse, nothing more than a beast of burden. That's why I think the caste system is no better than slavery was in the US.

Answer 8

Let me tell you that all happens for good. Don't just blame on Christians and Muslims there might be other religions with them who conquered India. Now you can do nothing to change India's history. Just think that they, who conquered India cheeted in the war and took over India and that is the throught. I'm a Muslim and i know how you feel.

I researched in history of India and found out that some King calling them selfs Muslim conquered India in a wrong way.
I would just say just move on with your life unstead of getting angry with the one you hate, who conquered India.

Answer 9

Over the ages caste system was on the profession one elected , but it degenerated to family of birth .
Other wise how does one explain arjun married draupadi as brahamin.
It is like democracy has gegenerated in to family affair. No scripture says that gandhi family will be sole custodians of indian leadership. the same is about caste system

Down the line u should not be surprised, it will become mandatory that ony nehru gandhi family members can become prime minister or ruling elite

Answer 10

dude i totally agree with you. the caste systems is not based on heirarchy but actually Rushi Muni created this to for a perfect society. In fact many the working class were richer than the classes above. in the original caste system there were no untouchables