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Ron Paul is leading in the national polls! 33%
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The result of months of polling actual voters certainly destroys the phone polls the media pundits want you to believe.
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by Robert Werden
(Libertarian)
The pollsters insist that polls conducted over the phone are the most scientific way of accurately assessing a candidate’s viability. This statement couldn’t be further from the truth. What it all boils down to in the end is votes. On Caucus and Primary day you cannot phone in your vote and for all the Ron Paul supporters you cannot click your vote either. You must show up in person and cast your ballot live.
The Ron Paul brigade has proven they can vote. Ron Paul wins every single internet poll as well as almost all cell phone text message polls after network debates.
The question media pundits are constantly asking regarding the huge internet voting and fund raising success of Ron Paul is can he translate his tremendous support into Caucus and Primary votes?
Well let’s take a look at what that means. To the media, polls are success. Polls determine who gets the most media coverage. Polls determine who gets endorsed by big names in both politics and from Hollywood.
The Ron Paul supporters have proven online votes and text message votes, but have they proven votes in person, where you actually have to leave your computer or couch and travel somewhere, listen to a bunch of stump speeches then wait in long lines to vote? The only test of that are straw polls. Straw polls are actually a rehearsal for Caucus and Primary day. They are held in almost every state and require a person to travel (sometimes hours away), sit through speeches and stand in lines to vote. Furthermore straw polls are also GOP fund raisers, so in order to vote you often have to pay about $35 to $55.
So now you’re getting to the question the media pundits are asking. The translation to actual votes!
There have already been close to 50 official straw polls throughout the country. There is a website that keeps track of these events and tallies the scores just like the Media and pollsters do. Now remember straw polls are the closest you can get to actual voting. There is no spammers clicking on 50 internet polls per day, there is no phone polling to the miniscule reminant of the decimated Republican Party. These are real people taking the day off to go and support their candidate. So without further ado here are the results.
Source www.usastrawpolls.com
As you can see the candidate with the most number of Straw poll wins is Ron Paul. Also notice that the current break through front runner in the phone polls Mike Huckabee has won only 2 straw polls.
Candidate# Wins
Ron Paul 25
Fred Thompson 24
Mitt Romney 22
Rudy Giuliani 7
John McCain 5
Mike Huckabee 2
Duncan Hunter 2
Alan Keyes 0
Now here is the really shocking statistic of these real life votes. If you look at the total straw polls and average Ron Paul’s polling percentage the same way phone polls are averaged, the percentages of votes for Ron Paul is 33.02%.
Source http://www.ronpaul2008.com/straw-poll-results/
33.02% is the media pundits answer to their question of translation to actual votes.
So if you were hesitant to throw your endorsement towards Ron Paul because of the Medias assessment of viability, your likely in a genuine position to justify Ron Paul as your candidate.
I say, welcome to the Ron Paul Revolution.
2007-12-26
21:12:34
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DASHLOC4: by the looks of your answer you didnt take the 2 minutes to even read the article or look at the facts , but that happens allot here so dont sweat the truth or facts
2007-12-26
21:20:06 ·
update #1
sailorti... : actually its talking about people going to straw polls compaired with phone polls , straw polls are not jut held near colleges , they are put on by republican partys or republican voters groups, none are really backing ron paul but his supporters come out and vote , just like they will in the primaries
2007-12-26
21:39:03 ·
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Golden : 2 things just because its not your poll doesnt make it a wrong poll.
2 just becuase people dont vote for your canidate ,doesnt mean they stole anything, they just believe in a different canidate than you
and the only wasted vote is the vote not cast. (or the status quo)
2007-12-26
22:14:19 ·
update #3
I will vote for him, and I think that a lot of people will. I think that when the primary results start coming in there will be a lot of surprised pollsters.
I am not a 20 something, I am not a moron, I am not an Internet hack, I am not living off some family member, thinking that I am a reasoning adult.
I am a working adult, I support a family.
I am 56 years old.
The Internet is necessary for my business, but was difficult for me.
I am well enough educated to understand that if we don't take charge of our country, we will lose it.
I don't fit the profile that is considered the Ron Paul support base, but I will vote for him anyway.
There are many of us out here.
2007-12-27 00:24:59
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answered by maryjellerson 4
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My all time favorite "poll" was the CNN October poll in the 2000 Minnesota governor's race .. the one calling Jesse Ventura a "spoiler." CNN apparently assigned him 21%, and assigned 34% and 35% respectively to the two major party candidates.
Less than a month before the election.
Well, the rest is history. Ventura won with 37%. Apparently the 18 year-old world wrestling fans in Minnesota don't bother with CNN "news" or the other respectable sources. Thus the mainstream media failed in their attempt to herd these unruly kids into choosing between the two Mafia families, er, I mean the pre-selected Republican and Democrat career politicians.
One thing we can be sure of: for any outsider running for office, the assigned "poll" percentage number should be read as ... "this candidate has AT LEAST this percent of people favoring them." i.e., a > sign. As far as how much greater, I have never figured out the formula, but in the case of Ventura, mysteriously ending up with 37% of the vote, from a 21% prediction .. we know that the differences can be fairly significant beyond statistical "standard deviations."
2007-12-27 17:08:46
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answered by Lawrence C 2
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WOW! Now that's really very good news! You see, most of the American people use the internet and a GREAT portion of internet users support Ron Paul, so these figures actually make sense.
Besides, by May 2007 23% of the Republicans opposed the Iraq War, while 77% supported it. This is actually in favor of Ron Paul, becuase ALL of the 23% are actually gonna vote for him, while the remaining 77% are gonna be divided between Giuliani, McCain, Huckabee and Romney; not to mention the others; simply because Ron Paul is the ONLY Republican candidate against the war and because those people opposed to the war hold FIRM to their stance; besides the fact that day after day many Republicans are changing their mind regarding advocating the Iraq War.
Add to this the fact that MANY Democrats and Libertarians have turned into Republicans in order to vote for Ron Paul, this also adds to the percentage of his voters.
Finally, more and more people are going for Ron Paul than they did in May or September or even at the beginning of December because more and more people are changing their mind about the Iraq War.
Therefore these statistics MAKE SENSE to me.
Ron Paul was very cunning when he chose the Republican Party because the Democrats are in favor of withdrawing from Iraq (thus sharing the same view as his), while the Libertarians pass too much unnoticed to be elected. His choice for the RP was the right one.
Ron Paul all the way!
2007-12-27 07:18:41
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answered by Ash'ari Maturidi 5
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Polls dont mean crap,
The people that vote according to poll numbers are the ones who vote for a candidate cause he looks cute , Or doesnt look like the teacher I hated in High school.etc LOL
Do a search on youtube for... "Penn and Teller vs luntz"
and you will see how worthless polls really are!
In the end.... its "involvement" that will get someone the nomination.
That means showing up to the primary or getting involved in your local precinct caucus if that be the case in your state.
All the polls and online posturing mean Nothing if you dont get involved in the nominating process. If you look at the number who contributed to Pauls campaign.... I think he will make a good showing...
BTW. ....Remember to demand a receipt if using an electronic machine!
2007-12-27 09:58:12
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answered by Anonymous
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I believe its astonishing, and a great contribution to American Politics. This is a clear cut example of how modern media selects their candidate for President and through their "reporting" gets us to jump onto the bandwagon. Ron Paul is breaking the barriers of institutionalized candidate selection by the media. He has a huge online following and fund-raising network. He has a wealth of knowledge, has written various books, has the capability to win elections and is a certified OBGYN ! He is the candidate that is delivering a message that Americans want to hear, both liberal and conservative. He's also won the most GOP straw polls yet his name is hardly mentioned when the media reports on the '08 Presidential Campaign. Ron Paul is the real "straight talk" candidate and I am pulling for him in the upcoming primaries. Everyone should tell a friend to google Ron Paul because something amazing is happening and we should all be a part of it.
2007-12-27 05:59:49
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answered by Frederick D 1
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Well I think he's living in a little commune within his own head called Paulville where he's the head cult leader.
I loved the questions that Tim Russert asked him on "Meet The Press" where he had no answer last Sunday. He would just start laughing and say, "Oh come on Tim, come on". I never had a better laugh than I did on Sunday.
That man is so funny that he's got to be a long lost Smothers brother that Tom and Dick never knew they had.
I think he's doing so well in the AOL Straw Poll because 12-24 year olds are using different computers to cast multiple votes. Let's face it - one poll, where padding the results is possible, does not make for a winner.
It just shows one thing - anyone who's a U.S. born citizen and over the age of 35 truly can run for president. What a country - even dogs and cats have their own aisle in the supermarket!
2007-12-27 07:20:39
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answered by Jeffrey B 3
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two things: 1. you read the wrong polls. 2. ron paul supporters are skewing the polls by spamming votes on all available polls.
so what you have is false. ron paul is at the bottom of the heap.
why don't you work on something that can make a difference? the ron paul campaign will go the way of all the other wacky also rans. far too often they screw up the voting process.
think about it. had the green party not stolen democratic votes, george bush would not be in office. that's right, republicans did not win. democrats did indeed lose. they lost idiot voters to the green party.
don't get me wrong, i could support the greens, but as it is they are only an "also ran" party. the ron paul campaign is interesting, a social phenomena, but not to be taken seriously.
2007-12-27 05:54:31
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answered by Anonymous
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Fantastic! He has some great ideas. I think he'll take us back to a lot of the original ideas our Founding Fathers had and will use common sense and compassion in his approach.
2007-12-27 07:56:27
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answered by Shrieking Panda 6
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Mmm,.. Good for the Republicans because before 9-11 Giuliani ...
... this Poll is likely done on or near College Campuses ( they normally are).
Ron Paul has been actting like he is covered in women and they are all for him but he's really going after men who want women and people with disposeable incomes.
These are children, teens, and college students who do not have to pay their own expenses. These kind of things also hit people with Mental Illnesses who both cannot support themselves and do not see themselves as disabled adults, instead they bash the lazy disabled while they are taken care of [by people, like family members... but not without support from the Government as well]. They like people like Ron Paul.
Now while you can point out this is merely a Poll and not an Election,.. the people Ron Paul is slideing over to because they are friends with his Disposable income supporters are Young Adults and people that will likely go vote. If he can keep it up he can win being the Republican Canidate IF AND ONLY IF the people most likely to Vote during the Presidential Election,.. can be pushed into the Voteing Booths when it's time to vote on who the Republican Canidate is.
Personally I am going to base my Vote on the history of the person proveing they will actually do things in office. Most of the Canidates do not do what they say or lack experience,.. so this is pretty easy for me.
Just remember to get as many people in the Polls as posible,.. regardless of who they SAY they will be voteing for. Pray Bush doesn't keep tugging at strings for this War and have his presidency run over ( yes, he can do that).
Added: Hmm,.. so are those the Polls where they have Beer Companies compete for attention at a place they announced on Campus and on the Radio? *double checks* Yes,.. those are the ones near where I live where the Beer Companies and some Snack Foods compete for attention and advertise like crazy to try to get 20-somethings.
2007-12-27 05:31:54
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answered by sailortinkitty 6
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If the global elite cant kill him in the polls,I predict they will make a literal attempt. The Bilderbergs discussed that very thing at their last meeting.
2007-12-27 06:13:24
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answered by shazaamazam 4
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