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- When it Obvious their Not?

2007-12-26 01:56:12 · 11 answers · asked by Anonymous in Arts & Humanities Philosophy

hypno444, Sorry you Found It Beyond your Cimprehesion.

2007-12-26 02:12:17 · update #1

I'm Sorry, "Comprehension", WRT the Original Q, Perhaps the Problem is, that I Left Out "it's" or "is".

2007-12-26 02:18:31 · update #2

Thanks Alex, Ego?

2007-12-26 02:22:05 · update #3

Thanks Don H, you Would Think people Would Recognize their Fallibility.

2007-12-26 02:46:27 · update #4

Thanks K and Wayne, Sorry for Not Responding Sooner, but I Needed to Reread your Messages, and Give Them Some Thought (Not Enough Really). Wayne, I Would Like to Give an "Out", but don't See it Always Possible, K, Many Things you Mentioned I See as a Manifestation of Ego. In any Case, if Someone Bases their Opinion On Hearsay and/or Prejudice, it is No Better than Basing it On Rumor, In Which Case, we Have No Reason to Think Something is True, Relativity (Special and General), Evolution. So it Requires Affirmative and/or Contrary Evidence. if One Can't Point to One or Both of These, then it is Only Speculation.

2007-12-26 17:30:08 · update #5

SAMI. I Suspect you Know Why you Are Right.

2007-12-26 18:15:30 · update #6

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Garden variety narcissism and bigotry, in my mind...perhaps mixed in with a little ignorance and naivety. Some like to call this “pride” or “being stubborn”. In my opinion, all efforts to disguise how emotionally and cognitively limited this really is and further evidence that this is really about narcissism, bigotry, ignorance, and naivety–one can’t even see the behaviour for what it is; only some fluffy, socially amusing thing they believe it to be, from their own perspective: “Oh, ha-ha, she’s just stubborn”.

We live in a hedonistic society. The majority emphasizes (either directly or indirectly) self-pleasure, via wealth, consumerism and other warped notions that contribute to status; what we deem as fundamentally important and reward within our social hierarchies. "Me, me, me, more, more, more will make ME a better, smarter, highly socially regarded person in a me, me, me, more, more, more society!"

Individual narcissism is inherited or nurtured self-regard and self-centredness that arises from what we as a society deem as important. Macro conceptions filtered down to micro social systems. People who are narcissistic will have not had an array of personal experiences, will be incapable of “real” empathy; perhaps they have not successfully mastered the childhood milestone of “perspective taking”. All of this though lends itself to a narrow, self-centred, self-pleasure driven view of the world. "I am right because I think I am and it makes me feel good and that is what is important". Quite developmentally stunted and naive, based on an ignorant, but self-perspective representative of the “majority” in our society.

Narcissism goes hand-in-hand with bigotry. People are intolerant of other views and people that differ from who they think they are because they are narcissistic. If a person can only see four sides of a box how could they be accepting, let alone, see anything that lies outside of this box?

Nice to analyze these types of people, but that’s as close as they’ll ever get to me...;-)

EDIT: Sure, I can see ego as the basis of the concepts I mentioned: narcissism, ignorance, naivety, and bigotry. Perhaps ego is the primal root of all of these characteristics. Maybe Freud's concept of "id" could be adapted and more accurately characterize the manifestation of this predominance of self-centredness, self-pleasure. But, in layman's terms, sure, ego: as in, egotistical, an inflated idea of one's importance etc.

I think that opinion, heresay, rumour, speculation, prejudice? Simply "beliefs"...which are, of course, quite different than evidence: tentative truth based upon presentation of subsequent affirmation or contrary evidence.

2007-12-26 12:40:25 · answer #1 · answered by Kynysca 4 · 1 0

Greg,

You've got a good question. First off, every answer in Y!A is an opinion of the person providing you an answer so each of the answers become suspect as to the validity of the answer.

Most people, not all, have root beliefs, training, life experiences and many other forms of environmental input that cause them to think about things from their own individual perspective. An example: A person says that the sky is green. Yet when you look at the sky it is blue. It is possible that the person has been trained that the color blue is named green. Or that they are wearing glasses that make the blue sky appear green. For what ever reason they use the word green to describe the blue sky is irrleavent. They know in their own minds that the color of the sky as they see it is green.

This type of thinking in many people is only changeable in a person by re-educating them as to the common knoweldge that the color of the sky is named blue.

This is an extreme example but you do you see the point -- it is based upon their training.

More difficult things like discussion of religious beliefs etc can be much more involved and must be approached from many different aspects before a person will even think of changing their minds and accepting a different interpertation of what they have believed.

One of the most talented people I know has in the past learned that argueing with someone about a belief, and getting a person to see another point of view, had to be looked at as if the person themselves discovered the error.

One of the most important things we need to understand is that it is human nature to not want to "loose face" or be embarassed. If we approach all encounters where we have an understanding one way and the other person has an understanding contrary to our own, allowing the person an "out" or way to "save face" then then we are seen as a better person and will be respected.

2007-12-26 15:47:00 · answer #2 · answered by .*. 6 · 1 0

Anything that does not support a particular thought system is seen as an attack on the thought system.

The thought system is the foundation or basis for all future beliefs.

This must be defended at all cost, or the possibility is that everything that we think we know is wrong. This is why we often ignore the obvious and convince ourselves we are right when all of the evidence points in some other direction.

Love and blessings Don

2007-12-26 10:31:13 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Failing to find the contradiction in their thinking. The Will is positive, the Judgment is negative. Is that complete knowledge to be 'right', or is it logics way of differentiating this from that, this is not that. The basis of feeling right is the absence of intent to do wrong. This does not make a person perfect, but it is a beginning for a person to perfect their self, intending to know what is positive for the other and what is negative and doing as much positive as possible and negating the negative for them, but without complete knowledge, with incomplete knowledge, we may do them wrong. After shame and guilt are dealt and defeated, inferiority. How do I negate that negation, how do I posit into the negative in my life. Power?

2007-12-26 21:01:56 · answer #4 · answered by Psyengine 7 · 1 0

It's the basic chain of cause and effect...Ignorance of course...then Fear...? What is it about Truth that some people look for it so badly...maybe they know, unconsciously, that they're living a lie? Then we come to the point of Blame...somebody is gonna have to pay for this, and it's not going to be me!0!

You know, some people complain about lies, but who is to blame if not truth, but they don't come to it because who's going to complain about Truth?

Some people even play the victim and say: Ah, but the truth hurts. They also come up with brilliant ideas; like White Lies. Then they make a whole profile of psychological constitutions out of it and they call it Defence Mechanisms!0!

You said it bro, don't blame me later. I'm not even going to say: You're welcome!0!

Good luck!

2007-12-26 10:19:44 · answer #5 · answered by Alex 5 · 3 0

Fear of uncertainty - which, after all, is fear of reality. Lots of it about. Aggravated by elders who condemn any critical thought, or "wrong" answers, as a sinful - and the idea of sin itself, along with guilt and the rest of the garbage. Boring twits.

2007-12-27 02:39:08 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

i dont really know the answer.

But i would say,to Alex, that i can easily disagree that "the people are PATHETIC".

i dont "see" that they are; i find that the vast majority are conciderate and kind,not least helpful too.
Even the "mistaken" ones!

2007-12-26 10:27:23 · answer #7 · answered by peter m 6 · 0 0

Its a natural reflex. People don't like to admit they're wrong. Self preservation. Not having it would cause depression.

2007-12-26 17:55:08 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Perhaps if you phrased this question in English, someone might be able to understand what you are trying to ask.

2007-12-26 10:04:29 · answer #9 · answered by Wiz 7 · 0 1

I am always RIGHT . The basis is known to all who know me.

2007-12-27 01:35:49 · answer #10 · answered by J.SWAMY I ఇ జ స్వామి 7 · 0 0

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