Men blame women?

Question

hear this argument when a rape discussion occurs, that a woman's dress or her demeanor is to blame for the violent act of rape.

All female sexism "blame the victim" mentalities aside....

Doesn't this idea paint a picture of men as incapable of self-control, animalistic, or barbaric?

Doesn't this harm men more so than women.

Answer 1

men and women who blame rape victims of being raped because of the way they were dressing do probably think of men as animals incapable of self control . however in reality most rapes do happen not because of the way the woman was dressed but because they , the victims , were in wrong place in the wrong time . it is a matter of opportunity and of bad luck for the victim .

by the way forcing another person to have sex can't never be justified not matter if the person who was raped was wearing nothing at all or was completely covered . also the fact than rape still happens in Muslim countries in which all women are completely covered proves that what a woman dresses has nothing to do with the act of rape .

there is a lot of other facts which can be mentioned too such as child rape which can't possibly be blamed in the way the victim was dressed . most rapist do have deep troubles inside the head and the worst thing about it is that many of them do have those problems so deep that people who live around them can't even see them .

by the way i would like to mention a fact which i have mentioned before and that being that alcohol is involved in a very high percentage of rapes , something to think about . in my opinion women should never drink but of course that would be another speech which i not going to give this time .

Answer 2

Well, the particular men who rape aren't capable of self control obviously. Your question assumes that all men are potential rapists. I'm sure that you meant "doesn't this idea paint a picture of RAPISTS as incapable of self-control, animalistic, or barbaric? Well, in that case, my answer is yes, it does, and with good reason.
I don't blame the victim, but I also don't think of all men being rapists or all rapists being men.

Answer 3

Yes it does, but only for those who rape. I would not want judgment to be placed on me because a women beats her kids and men should not be judged by men who rape. The men who rape are mentally ill and should be locked away. The recurrence of sexual crimes are among some of the highest. I think the should be a HUGE clue that what we are doing to prevent these crimes is not work and until we can figure out what to do, we should keep these predator (sometime women as well) away from the general population.

Answer 4

"Why do some" I truly hate this phrase honestly it stings my eyes whenever i read it because all a person has to do is type Why do some X and then commence the bashing of any group that they have it out for. "if you mention that more men commit crimes some men will say "well women drive men to it" or "there's probably a woman behind it" I do not know a person who has ever blamed women for the actions of an individual outside of the obvious Y/A trolls and i would like you to gather some actual linkage and or proper evidence to support your claims.

Answer 5

Although female rape occurs more often than male rape, I'm going to address this issue to both genders because quite honestly...rape can happen to anyone.

Rape is a crime of control, and the ONLY thing a victim should be cautious of is being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Clothing, attitude, personality, actions...none of them matter to the rapist as much as finding a victim that fits their fantasy.

The idea that when people say things like "she shouldn't have been wearing that" or "he shouldn't have been acting that way if he didn't really want it" or "if you go to *that place* you're just asking for it" is shielded under the guise of avoidance advice and not admitted for what it is...sexist attitude.

This so-called advice to the potential victims isn't anything that would actually help them in a rape situation, it is behavior modification...it’s as big a form of control as the rape itself in many ways. Look at it like this...in no other situation would anyone dream of telling an adult that they can or can not do certain things...yet, the fear of rape allows people to be controlled into believing that:
*if I can't round up 3-5 friends who also want to go out and to the same place I do...I shouldn't go because there is only safety in numbers.
*I should only wear certain things because otherwise I am unfairly advertising my willingness to have sexual relations with someone else.
*I should somehow have known better than to go to That Place, because it's dangerous.
*Don't dance with someone (like that) because it places ideas into their heads about what you are willing to offer.

The list can go on and on and on, but bottom line is that it places blame on the victim because their actions led to the consequences instead of placing ALL the blame where it belongs...on the rapist. A person can not live their lives according to what might happen, that type of fear can (and will) eventually immobilize a person. Today, it's rape that you fear, so you alter your life accordingly. Tomorrow, it's muggings, than car theft, than home invasion, than.....

Live the way you want to live, with the realization that bad things do happen to good people. No matter what happens, it is only a moment in time and you are stronger than this thing, so step aside and let it pass. Than you get up again the next day and do it all over again.

Answer 6

It's a US myth that we really have control over violence in this society--that's why women are blamed for how they dress to explain why another person would violently attack and torture them. Otherwise, where can we really be safe, if we're not safe with our families and friends in our homes, or with the rest of society in public?

When someone is murdered often it is asked: why were they there? why didn't they fight? if they did fight, why did they resist? why did they have a weapon? if they didn't have a weapon, why didn't they? who did they anger? why did they stay with someone who was angry or violent or drunk or mentally ill? why didn't they know the killer was a killer?

The truth is, the US has no control over our societal or familial violence, since we can't control each others actions every moment of every day.

Answer 7

I don't think anyone could 'deserve' to be raped, but I think although it depicts the men as being unable to resist, I think we have to remember that sane men wouldn't do this. Men that rape have to be odd in the head, either mental or have a hatred of women. Although I don't say it's a woman's fault if she dresses a certain way etc, I do think that by displaying a lot of flesh is going to entice sexual perverts. If there is a sexual pervert around, he will probably be getting more enticed by a woman that's displaying more flesh.

Answer 8

It does, but this part of rape has been blown out of proportion.
Most rapes do not occur because of how someone was dressed or how they were acting. They occur because the rapist feels that s/he is more powerful than the victim and wants to prove it on their body.

Answer 9

It's definitely not a woman's fault, nor does she deserve it, but I believe some women put themselves in bad positions like taking drinks from guys they don't know at bars, dressing like uber sluts and going to sleezy clubs, etc. For example: I'm White. Isn't it reasonable to think that if I take a stroll down 122nd St, NYC at 3am wearing gold chains, dressed well, looking at a map that I might get robbed? Do I deserve to get robbed? No. Is it my fault? No. Did I put myself in the position where someone might take advantage of my ignorance? Yeah, totally.

Answer 10

Men do not blame women for actually being raped. That would be beyond cruel.

Some men do say that if women are so concerned with rape and if the feminist false statistic of 1 in 4 women will be raped then a smart person as[ women claim to be] would not walk around scantily clad where a rapist would notice her.

That isn't blame it is pointing out that if rape is such a problem in this country then maybe women should use caution and in certain environments don't dress with all their stuff out in the open.

What is assigning blame is accusing men of blaming rape victims.

Advice and blame are two separate things.

Nice bit of propaganda though just like your previous question.

Edit- Baba Yaga Yes many rapes are about violence and it does happen to children and the elderly sadly.

But that isn't what the question was about was it? The question is clearly about women who are raped while wearing revealing outfits. Which in no way makes it a legitimate rape victims fault but if rape happens with the frequency that feminists say it does then wouldn't it be wise to not make ones self more visible to the sicko that is out to harm a woman sexually?

So while that was a nice bit of deflection to save the argument it is never the less erroneous.

Edit- Yes women should be able to wear what they want when they want but that isn't the point and you are just bashing men at this point. For men it isn't a matter of do we think a womanshould have the right to dress the way she wants it's a matter of whether or not it is advisable to dress scantily when feminist claim often and loudly that rape occurs as often as they say it does. These responses are proving what we antifeminists have been saying about man hate. We are telling you that we don't condone rape for any reason we don't think a real victim of rape is at fault we just point out that if rape occurs as often as feminists say then women would be smart to protect themselve by not being so visible that is mental enough to rape some one. So either rape doesn't happen as often as we are told or feminists are more concerned with what should happen more than the safety of women which is it? Because from your responses it would seem it would be one or the other.