whats so terrible about universal health care?

Question

what is the problem with government run health care?
why is america so afraid of it?
whats so horrifying about socialism?


i mean i think we need to take care of our fellow citizens, money shouldnt be an issue. life insurance companies is a business of life and death. but why do we keep it this way?


tell me your view.

my mom works for a insurance run medical group and shes against socialized health care. and i just dont understand why. . . shes seen what its done to people - doesnt she have a concious? im moving to france.

Answer 1

most of the reasons people give for not wanting it are myths. canada and european countries that have it arent failures. there healthcare is considered a right not a privilege, as it should be. waiting lists are only long for elective surgeries, and even then, the last time i checked it took a while to get an elective surgery here done a long time as well. My dad had to have both of his knees replaced. it was to the point he couldnt walk up stairs anymore. His insurance company made him wait almost two years because they didnt want to pay for any of it. His doctor had to argue with them the entire time, as his knees should have been replaced about ten years before. with universal healthcare the quality and freedom you would receive would be just as good and timely as it is here. you would have a small copay for doc visits, but other stuff is taken care of. instead of the money you pay to your insurance company it would instead go towards taxes to pay for universal healthcare. due to the volume of people in the single payer system, the costs would eventually go down. For all those that say that universal healthcare is a disaster in other countries, why do they still use it? if it is such a disaster, why wouldnt the people say to hell with it? you cant tell me our insurance companies would gladly step in there to offer private health insurance at a huge profit for themselves.
universal healthcare will never happen here though. insurance companies are multi billion dollar industries. they have bought and paid off many many politicians who will never let private health insurance companies disappear. too much money for greed is at stake. Its a shame that people value the almighty dollar over peoples lives.

Answer 2

Wow...where to begin...How about asking France ...who has recently realized that they can't afford thier socialist ways...its breaking the Government.
Or maybe UK..who recently asked pregnant mothers not to have thier babies at the hospital.
Maybe Canada can chime in with thier 6 month waiting period for serious illness's for treatment.
This is socialized medicine..Like it or not.
Now look, I would like to trust as in the old American days did that we can not fully...but generally trust our Government to make sound decisions that will benefit the people of America.
Problem is..that's not how it works. WHY NOT ? good question. That I can't answer.
Sure, we can all get government run socialized medicine..and the Government would raise our taxes and soak the tax payer any way they can with incentive taxes or added expenses, and in the end we would have a program that would ration out these services to people because they don't have enough money.
Government has mishandled every program they have been in charge of And THAT is the big difference between being a Liberal and a Conservative. Liberals think that the Government should take care of the populus. and in a perfect world it just might, but the reality is some of the money the programs collect just "disappears" probably siphoned off for some pork program or to cover charges on something else. The conservatives know this and history proves it, which is why they fight it so hard. They want the private sector to take things over..which has proven to result in better care and services...but only if you can afford it. This leaves those that can't out into the cold and the liberals know it, so they fight because they think all should be covered.
It all seems to be a spiral downward and the weak link in the chain is the government. They are insulated from us firing them, or holding them responsible. They can load up all the pork and earmarks they want. They can throw in last second riders to legislation...all the while having a comfy office, a large paycheck and all the America taxpayer can do is vote them out years later after they have caused ruin.
If it weren't for trial lawyers and Government, the system would be much better since they are the one's causing the jacked up prices on liability and malpractice insurance.
Take the mortgage industry now, only 4% of America's aren't making thier monthly payments. That isn't alot, but with the market and news hemming and hawing over the credit crunch and housing markets, you'd think it was worse. Yet here comes big daddy government, dipping his hand into the situation and will more than likely mess it up. There's pro's and con's for both liberalism and conservatism, but it is in general Government that is the cause. The people need a more direct route than voting every 4 to 6 years because there is no concerted effort between the 50 states to eliminate the bad representation in Washington.

Answer 3

The "horrifying" thing about socialism is that is in direct conflict with the one of the basic principles upon which the Republic was founded; to wit the right to and respect for Private Property (which is the underlying rational for the 3rd, 4th & 7th amendments, as well as the justification for the legalisation of abortion, the woman's body being considered "private property" with her property rights superceeding those of the fetus).

One of the interesting points missing in the discussion of the health care "crisis" is how medical costs began to rise very rapidly after the introduction of the Medicare & Medicade programs.
Coincidence?
I don't know. I'm just saying...
Also, it seems that insurance rates seem to rise more rapidly during times of declining stock prices than at other times.

Then again, if more Americans ate less crap & just less in general & excercised more (took more direct responsiblity for the state of their own health) this wouldn't be nearly the issue it is...

Answer 4

Just reading the responses to your question should give you some idea of the controversy (logical and illogical) over universal health care.
I personally find it unconscionable that the US Congress isn't smart enough, doesn't care enough, is too beholding to business & industries against UHC (take your pick) to care for it's citizens.
I have a good health care plan, but as soon as my two sons reached eighteen they were disqualified. Their employers can't afford to pay the premiums so I am still paying (only catastrophic hospital insurance.) I can't afford to pay for a comprehensive plan.

Socialism is a trigger word, like communism, liberal and neo-conservative causing ignorant rant-filled outcries that prevent a logical study and pathway to an equitable solution.

Answer 5

Ever tried getting psychological wellness help in California? i will in basic terms say i've got been needlessly positioned with the aid of a lot of crap for a chain of years for something i ought to've walked right into a health center for interior the united kingdom and been great. As for the waiting time argument, it rather is fallacious in that the only usa with some style of social wellness care that has longer ER wait situations than us is Canada (which you will observe is the only one that anti-reformers will ever cite).

Answer 6

How about a few facts about one example in Canada? I am married with 3 boys, we all wear glasses, see our family doctor yearly, optomitrist yearly, dentist yearly. This past year we had 6 ER visits, 1 emergency dental visit and just this past Friday our oldest spent the night in the ER with stomach pains. They ran about a dozen different tests including 2 Cat Scans. Then yesterday they took out his appendix. With my wife's supplemental insurance that covers prescriptions, our total out of pocket expenses was less than $100.00. Yes, there can be wait times but for elective surgeries, our system is based on the premise of worst goes first. NO ONE waits for ER care. These are the facts, health care for health care or health care for profit? You decide and my taxes run about 29% which includes health care. Thanks for the thumbs down from those who choose profit over care. And Merry Christmas to all..

Answer 7

People are selfish.
I work and my health care is covered by my company.
Why should my taxes increase so I can pay for health coverage when already so much money is given to these people through taxes like welfare.
When will the government aid stop, when will the people finally get a job.

Answer 8

My view is that it is shameful the U.S. does not have a national health care system. We are powered by the almighty dollar (or what's left of it) and would rather spend money on a senseless war than on taking care of our people. Insurance and pharmaceutical companies rule. Doctors can change this, one by one nad it is beginning to happen. A few have left the system and opened private offices where they charge a minimal fee. It's what practicing medicine used to be.

Answer 9

The problem with socialism is that it punishes people for becoming financially successful by insanely high tax rates. It rewards people who do the bare minimum to survive by giving them everything they need (like food, shelter, health care), thus taking away the incentive to earn for themselves.

Universal health care gives doctors more bearucratic paperwork for a bare minimum payment, reducing their desire to do anymore moer than the bare minimum work.

Answer 10

The government cannot even properly fund Walter Reed Hospital. If it wont provide adequate care for American soldiers wounded in battle, do you actually think it will give a flying fig if you need a triple bypass?