If you all agree that Enoch Powell was right?

Question

What is your problem with the BNP?

Read it? LOL I heard it the same day he said it.

hein, Maybe to late

BronzedPete you are absolutely right, They need better PR.

Having said that, they must still be the fastest growing party

Phoenix, No they do not,

TIM M These are the people who accuse the BNP, yet try to bully you in secret. There is a little gang of Bullies on here who collectively give thumbs down and send abusive emails,

Phoenix they hate your commie leftie views more than my right ones. LOL

Answer 1

I dont want to get involved in this particular question, however, what I will say is this.

I dont know if those in agreement with you are in the minority or the majority.
I do know that those in agreement with you is a substantial amount.

Given that, then exactly how is it possible for this large amount of people to air their feelings (as is their right) when each time the subject is broached the immediate reply is "You are a racist".

So this country of ours which boasts free speach is effectively taking away that right by totally banning any mention of this one particular subject.

Each country in the world which stifles free speach has an underground movement prepared to create mayhem.

Is that really the conditions we want to create here?

Dr Watson I presume.

You have taken no notice of the number of posters on here who have been reported for trying to broach this subject.
You have not really listened to politicians who are terrified of saying the wrong thing in case it offens the electorate. or the liberal do gooders.

They are not saying what they want to say, they are saying what is considered politically correct.

Politically correct = It does not upset those who would use it against them.

Sod the electorate and the do gooders, this subject should be talked about openly and frankly and fair and true figures and costs should be made available to all.
Crime and disorder figures for all should be made simple and understandable and the affects of mass immigration on social issues and property values.

Then, and only then, would it be correct and just to have closure to this subject in favour of one side or the other.

If this upside country of ours would trully allow free speach and if YA would trully allow us to debate exactly what we want then you woud see the extent of feeling on this subject.
Instad we have to listen to cries of foul play.

Your rivers of blood are happening daily (mostly in LOndon) with black on black murders.

Answer 2

You all responded this question 5 years in the past, its now August 2014, in basic terms a short while rather, final 3 hundred and sixty 5 days would 2013 Lee Rigby became murdered in chilly blood by utilising 2 muslim adult males as you probable understand, and this month August 2014 American reporter John Foley whom its mentioned became beheaded in Iraq by utilising a British jihadist who became named interior the tabloid papers this week. The British born jihadists or abode grown terrorists because of the fact the media refers to them as have vowed to return to Britain and wreak havoc. they're experienced contained in using firearms and bomb making, they'd have already smuggled in small firearms and bomb making supplies waiting for his or her return. The IRA have been able to this of their day and now the way criminals and terrorists function has grow to be extra state-of-the-paintings its in basic terms a remember of waiting. we've already had 7/7 and what's to return will probable be plenty worse, the Rivers of blood ought to then flood our streets, filmed and uploaded onto YouTube as became carried out with the modern homicide of John Foley. became Enoch Powell a visionary? Its beginning to seem a splash like it............

Answer 3

There is no doubt in my mind that had Enoch Powell become our PM we would be living under far different circumstances now I have little time for BNP but I tend to think our Government must be the finest recruiting agents for them that they could wish for, their membership is increasing all the time

Answer 4

Well we don't all agree with Enoch Powell. However if the BNP supporters ever bothered to read the whole of the speech they would find that what he was talking about was something quite different from what they seem to think.

Answer 5

Powell wasn't a racist but it looks like he was right after all.
Anyone who throws "racist" at ANYONE really doesn't understand it's meaning.

My problem with the BNP is that (if you have read their manifesto, it really isn't that clever. When you think about it) because of their outspoken views, they have alienated anyone who might, at some point taken them seriously. Which is a shame, because the ideals they stand for ring true with a lot of people. Integration hasn't worked since the 50's, and ideas of a "rainbow" society just don't work for a reason.

Answer 6

Enoch got it spot on..... However, since his 'rivers of blood' speech, we have allowed the 'do gooders' to become so ensconced in our society that every wrong doer, has now got more rights than there victims.... AND that must be wrong.....
The BNP have good ideals, but are battling an impossible dream, because of how we have allowed society to become.
For example..... If you commit murder, the 'normal' sentence is life..... If you plead Not Guilty you get 25 years.... If you plead Guilty, you get your sentence halved.. and serve 12.5 years. WRONG..... If you plead guilty and are a good boy you get a further reduction, so could do six years for a crime which is penalised at 25...... Why don't they make 25 years the sentence and say...... If your bad, we will extend it...And why don't they make it hard labour.... that will stop the 'school of learning' that prison has become..... No one says to us the law abiders, 'awww you have been good' have six months free from bills etc.... We have allowed our country to become 'moral obsessed'.....
So the BNP have a good theory on how to start correcting our folly but they want to start in the WRONG PLACE...
This new Lib leader wants 10 years to be 10 years... .LETS BACK HIM..... it is a good place to start.....

Well it seems my answer offended a reader, who chose to send me a personal mail as opposed to using this medium....
Maybe we should realise, each of us is entitled to an opinion..... Which is why as a country we allow freedom of speech etc etc etc......


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About the "Rivers of Blood" speech by the Late Enoch Powell

Rivers of Blood

April 22, 1968

From the Birmingham Post



Tory Leader Rules Powell
Out of Shadow Cabinet




Text of Powell speech given by Enoch Powell in April 1968

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Enoch Powell Speaking: On the Record

Go to Enoch Powell at SterlingTimes

Answer 7

I just want to know where these 'rivers of blood' exactly are. I never understand this 'Enoch Powell was right' stuff, when was he right?

Hi Stephen up above - I never get the impression that any one on this site is 'stifled'.

Answer 8

I don't think Enoch Powell was right and the less said about the BNP the better

Answer 9

Of course he was right and so it will be proved, we don't need the BNP to spell it out anyone with any common sense knows what problems lie ahead.

Answer 10

Have you read all of the speech? It is vile. So is the BNP. I could throw loads of questions at BNP supporters (like you) that they wouldn't be able to answer without looking like racist fools, but it's Xmas Eve so can't be bothered

You do realise immigrants make a positive net contribution to the UK economy, right?

tim -

you dont do emails, so maybe youll catch this here...

that's the trouble with many emotional people in this country. they think laws are primarily for punishing the guilty. wrong. the primary aim of laws is to minimise crime

if tough prison sentences are the answer, why does the USA have such high crime rates?

forget symptoms. until you tackle the root cause of crime - poverty, deprivation and inequality - youre never going to get anywhere

britain is one of the most unequal societies on earth

why?

because of capitalism

solution?

replace capitalism with a better way of organising economic resources - a way that guarantees everyone has what they need to survive, so that the 1+ billion people who do not have access to clean water today have access to it tomorrow

the answers are easy. putting them into practice is the hard part

this time last year there were 18 million people alive who are now dead because of totally preventable things like lack of food

imagine the christmas their relatives are gonna have

the world is messed up

merry xmas and happy / healthy 2008