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Has any One heard of this before?

I was out Christmas shoping with some friends the other nite at a local mall and saw a store that told a person who had 2casted legs that she couldnt come in her store do the no shoes, no shirt, no serivce law, then there was another store that did the same thing with sman who had a SS and couldnt put on a shirt on the posistionin of the bars of the cast.

and i was thinking if that was the cast then they would have to turn down are service dogs. for not having shoes.
What is this world coming too?

2007-12-22 22:47:06 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

I later ran into them at onther store and said i dont know why you were turn down at that store but i know that they should havent said that to you because of your current sisturation and if you look they would have to do it to our service dogs. which isnt right and i will do you a favor if you allow me to do so and try help you out, and find out for you so give me you name and number and i will call the store and find out for and let you. They said they would be nice and they were pleased that someone was steping on taking part on this changing nation,

2007-12-22 22:57:11 · update #1

Also state were you are from by state or city so i can get idea of what laws are where.

2007-12-22 22:59:29 · update #2

This is Near Tampa, FLa

2007-12-22 22:59:54 · update #3

15 answers

The other day, where I work, I saw a guy in a wheelchair who had no legs. He literally started from the hips up. He had a cast or some kind of white wrapping on, but no clothes, except a half shirt. It kind of made me wish he'd put a blanket on or a long shirt, as that's what I'd've done out of tactfulness, but at the same time, I also saw him as a person who wanted to do some Christmas shopping (AKA, spend money) so.... Sad that I found it tactless; sadder still that where you were shopping the other day, he'd've been thrown out.

It's not a law. It's store policy. Not a law.

Wow.

2007-12-23 01:19:21 · answer #1 · answered by dumbuglyweirdo 5 · 0 0

As stated above, it is not a law, but a policy statement.

It is used to encourage a certain level of clientele, and discourage those that under dress or cannot afford full clothing.

It is also used for Health Code purposes, such as a restaurant.

Lastly, it is up to the business to determine who they will or will not serve, absent the recognized areas of discrimination.

The people in the casts could threaten to sue under the Americans With Disabilities Act, but by the time the matter went to trial, they would no longer be disabled, and the issue would be a moot point.

Some rules may seem unfair to some, but they allow many others to keep their freedom of choice.

2007-12-22 23:47:06 · answer #2 · answered by MenifeeManiac 7 · 1 0

I'm quite familiar with the law and it is usually stipulated as a store policy used at the discretion of the employees, where therein lay an error in judgment. The employees in both cases should have overlooked store policy for the sake of the customers NOT the store. They could have made a sale, and gotten a big pat on the back from their supervisor for having the common sense to use PROPER discretion.

2007-12-23 03:29:11 · answer #3 · answered by Emissary 6 · 1 0

Places of business in general can have no shirt/no shoes/no service policies, however they are not allowed to discriminate against a person because of their disability, which is what this basically entails. This means that if someone is unable to wear a shoe on one foot due to a cast or if a service dog that is shirtless and shoeless needs to come in, they must be allowed. The person who was discriminated against can, and probably should, file a complaint. There are many organizations dedicated to preventing discrimination on the basis of disabilities.

2007-12-22 23:29:36 · answer #4 · answered by Somebody else 6 · 1 0

I don't know the laws on this but i would agree with you as well, contact the local agency for handicap people either permanent or temporary and try and get some answers. I applaud your efforts as these people who run these stores should be held accountable. You should also contact the news media and get them involved as well and I'm betting with the Christmas season upon us you will get a response.

Good luck

Merry Christmas and Happy Holiday to all

2007-12-23 02:28:16 · answer #5 · answered by BILL 7 · 0 0

It does seem to happen this one at the discretion of employee's with either no since of compassion for those that are injured. These idiots may have lost the meaning of being a human, and are just looking at how the customers look in their store. Its funny that once these people heal up, I would do them one better go back, and ask to you remember me, and tell them how little they made them feel. Tell em that you will be shopping elsewhere, cause you money will be spent better at another store that appreciates there customers

2007-12-24 09:00:52 · answer #6 · answered by ej3dval1 6 · 0 0

Yes, I've known of this rule, it used to be a law, but that's deplorable that in your friend' case and the man's, they didn't make exceptions. When I broke my leg, I couldn't wear anything over my toes but was still allowed on a plane and into stores. That's like arresting a 4 year old who takes a squirt gun to school. That's going way over the limit and those jerks ought to be ashamed of themselves for not allowing your friend and the man in....as a matter of fact, I believe that's against the law! (but not endorsing a law suit)

2007-12-22 23:01:18 · answer #7 · answered by noodlesmycat 4 · 0 0

It's a health code thing, I don't know if you have Dave & Busters where you live but they don't allow people in with tank tops. The reason being, not everybody can stomach looking at someones armpits, especially if they don't shave and have clumped up deodorant showing. The feet are basically self explanitory and as for dogs, they don't belong everywhere especially in public places that serve food or beverages. Their hair sheds everywhere, they could releave themselves anywhere and some people are just plain allergic.

2007-12-23 06:14:30 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

"No shirt no shoes no service" is not a law. It is a policy of the business establishment. A proprietor has the right to deny service to any person for any reason--except of course for prohibited grounds for discrimination like race and country of origin and all that.

It seems, in your example, that the employees failed to exercise good judgement and discretion--and unfortunately there is no law that compels people to have or to show those characteristics.

2007-12-22 23:28:01 · answer #9 · answered by Pagan Dan 6 · 2 0

Not sure about it being a law, more like a specific shop regulation. There's loads of shops near California beaches with a no shoes etc. sign which is mainly to discourage beach vagrants.

2007-12-22 22:55:40 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0