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Have heard this catch-phrase alot being used to describe what women unfairly want today, special privileges without responsibility.
Such as being treated equally yet still having men behave in a chivalrous manner towards them.
Am wondering if the other side of the coin has been considered, that it could be said that some men are wanting special privileges as well, by not wanting women to be on an equal footing and to treat women as lesser beings, yet will no longer be chivalrous either to the "weaker sex" as they see us.
Thoughts?
And notice that I said "some" men, not by any means all men.

2007-12-19 13:38:02 · 12 answers · asked by Shivers 6 in Social Science Gender Studies

Steve, for me, being treated as an equal or equally means to be treated as someone who has just the same worth. You see? Life is pretty easy-going for me, just I wanted to point out a discrepency(sp) in my question.

2007-12-19 15:49:56 · update #1

Blahhhhh, not my question, but what I'm observing here. Is it so wrong to question something?

2007-12-19 15:51:07 · update #2

12 answers

People in general can be selfish, and may use any pretext available to gain advantages for themselves.

It's not gender specific. It's a personality trait. The fact that it happens in a Gender doesn't really matter. It could be any context you care to name. The important thing is the trait and the behavior, not the context.

2007-12-19 13:51:58 · answer #1 · answered by Twilight 6 · 0 2

In a job I believe that women who want the same pay should be doing the same job with the same responsibility. This doesn't mean that men have to stop treating them with respect. Just because I have a great education and have done well in my career doesn't mean that I don't want my husband to treat me like a sexy woman at home. We both spoil each other out of love. Yes I am weaker because I am smaller and cant physically lift as much as a man but that does not make me a weak person and I would never ask for special privileges in the workplace.

2007-12-19 21:51:59 · answer #2 · answered by Diane M 7 · 2 0

Mrs. Shivers - "treat women as lesser beings"? Can we lighten up a bit?

The normal male/female interaction in the US is person to person. I don't see men or women being treated as "lesser beings" based on gender. Maybe relationship, but not gender.

And, I've been to lovely Brisbane, AU and know that it's just the same way there.

What you refer to is the backlash against feminism, not against women in general. IMO feminists really make this way harder than it needs to be.

I deal with female executives all the time (none of who ever talk about feminism or any of the drama described here all day), and there is no drama between men and women. None. We take 2 seconds to slip through the door, her first. No big deal, nobody's a "lesser being", etc.

But, if those same women droned on and on about being treated equally to men, it WOULD become an issue. We'd get to the door and now know what the heck to do. "Does she go first?" "Do I go first?" "I can't open the door just because she's a female, so I'd better let her go. . ."

I recommend that you just expect to be treated fairly and stop using that word equality, unless you really mean it and are willing to accept all of it.

I believe you will find that life will be so much simpler and more pleasant.

2007-12-19 23:29:54 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 4 1

As an equalist I know that men and women are DIFFERENT but nevertheless EQUAL UNDER THE LAW. Amongst other things that means NO SPECIAL PRIVILEGES either way. (In fact the hypothesis you pose in your question seems to be contrived if you don't mind me saying so. I have never heard of any men wanting special privileges. Such demands come only from certain women who feel they are "badly done by".)

As for CHIVALRY that went out with the ark. It was a mediaeval form of exaggerated courtesy given to men and women both. (If you always thought it was just a woman thing then you have been watching too many Hollywood movies!)

Now as for COURTESY and RESPECT they're different. They're much needed and they're two-way streets and men and women are equally deserving.

2007-12-20 05:34:23 · answer #4 · answered by celtish 3 · 2 2

I've only been with one man my entire life. He walked ahead of me. He never opened a car door or pulled out a chair.
If some man did that for me, now, I'd have a heart attack. My daughter's husband and her son do such chivalrous things for their mother and for my granddaughter. It looks like they enjoy it and it looks like they are honoring the women in their lives and not giving them special privileges.
These things speak of manners and kindness and affection.
I don't see how this has anything at all to do with equal opportunity to work in a field you are gifted and trained for.
My ex-husband had food brought to him, wherever he wanted it. All household chores were mine to do, even when I worked outside the home. His special privilege was to get his way.
I was treated very badly. My children and friends thought that their father looked at me as a housekeeper and that is all.
I don't think I was the only woman he looked down on. It would be harder to deal with if I was, as he put it, "the only one he mistreated, because I deserved it."
C. :)!!

2007-12-19 22:38:47 · answer #5 · answered by Charlie Kicksass 7 · 2 1

Most men get special privlidges through different dishonest acts, but for the most part, i think there's something in most guys minds that tell them they dont need special privlidges.

Yes, i am sick of hearing about cases of women being treated differently than men in the eye of the law and society, and i do think many women use a when it suits them attitude about equality. I know this question has been beat to death on this section, but i do see and hear lots of women get out of traffic tickets by flirting or just using their looks, but then demand equality. I have seen girls, when i was in school, cry when being scolded to get out of punishment (purposeful cry), then demand equality.

Many women also do want equality, and do try their hardest to do everything men do. Many men try to live to this role, even with that little voice in our heads that tell us to take charge, and most men are in a constant battle to keep that voice surpressed to a lower level.

2007-12-19 22:35:18 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 3

I'm happy for equality... but I'm tired of women getting off for same crimes which see men incarcerated. I'm tired of seeing false accusers getting a slapped wrist for obliterating a man's life, most of the time the true criminal doesn't get named. I'm tired of being told how women are supposedly stronger in so many ways, but then flutter their eyelids when they want something and so on and so on.

I'm happy for equality - but lets' see real equality instead of the 'as and when it suites' game.

ETA: Luckily, when I was the sole worker - I still came home and helped with childcare and housework... so I can ignore comments suggesting otherwise :o)

2007-12-19 21:43:38 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 6 6

I think the answer to this is yes.Have you ever heard the expression ''it is a woman's prerogative'' ? you never hear ''it is a mans prerogative''
men are not allowed to change their mind as it shows weakness of opinion.women are allowed to change anytime and any place,as it's their prerogative !!!

2007-12-20 00:54:52 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4 2

Both sexes have their advantages. Girls uses their looks and helplessness to get help.

And men use their dominance to influence a women, and their cunningness to fulfill their urge to fertilize as many women as possible.

2007-12-19 21:50:44 · answer #9 · answered by bryant s 4 · 4 5

There are some men who'll accuse women of wanting equality as it suits them, but they also fail to see how some men are doing it too.

For example, a man may want his wife to work outside of the home like he does, as a form of equality, but he'll also want her to do all the housechores (so-called women's work).
He's certainly enjoying equality as it suits him.

2007-12-19 21:47:26 · answer #10 · answered by smoofus70 6 · 9 6

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