Filipinos: what can you say about this?

Question

i've seen a group that has this description: ANTI FILIPINO PRIDE
ANYONE, regardless of race, ethnicity, and nationality, is cordially invited to join this group to unite everyone against the detestable philosophy known as FILIPINO PRIDE. This group is NOT meant to cultivate hatred toward Filipinos but hatred toward the ideologies and philosophies behind "Filipino Pride." Instilling "Filipino" or "Pinoy" pride in the hearts, minds, and souls of Filipinos has brought us nowhere and doesn't make us any better than those who aren't Filipino.

is this offensive?

Answer 1

Regardless of their mission statement, with an official name like that, I'd pass. I can't imagine myself to be Anti Filipino Anything!

Answer 2

In my humble opinion, this is a superbly cloaked Anti-Filipino drive, designed to disarm the nation by losing its will to fight back.

Let us analize the double-talk:

"ANYONE, regardless of race, ethnicity, and nationality, is cordially invited to join this group to unite everyone against the detestable philosophy known as FILIPINO PRIDE."

Above is very clearly a call for Unity for all races to gang up on the Filipino nation, the prejudice glaring in the words "detestable philosophy". When it is American Pride, or French Pride, or any other pride, it is not "detestable"?
No, the Filipino Pride had to be singled out.

Further:


"This group is NOT meant to cultivate hatred toward Filipinos but hatred toward the ideologies and philosophies behind "Filipino Pride."

If this entity is geared towards hatred of ideologies and philosophies behind Filipino pride, how can it disavow in the same statement, the intention to cultivate hatred toward Filipinos? It is like slapping the Filipino in the face, and at the same time saying, "I am not slapping your face. I am only slapping the pride I see on your face."

Finally:

"Instilling "Filipino" or "Pinoy" pride in the hearts, minds, and souls of Filipinos has brought us nowhere and doesn't make us any better than those who aren't Filipino."

A very sweeping statement, indeed. Taking for granted that Filipino Pride has brought us nowehere(which is highly debatable), what is OFFERED to take the place of pride in our hearts, minds and souls that purportedly should make us any better than those not of the bloodline? I will tell you. What is OFFERED is Nothing. Would taking this pride away from us as a nation achieve the effect of pulling out a disabling thorn, and somehow cause the nation to miraculously recover, and become a better member of the comunity of nations? Precisely how, pray tell us.

Answer 3

ANTI FILIPINO PRIDE?? if it really exist, then nobody would care. You didn't mention what nation this group came from, so it's kinda hard to answer. Perhaps it has something to do with the recent aggressive protest over the show "Desperate Housewives". My hunch is, over 50% of Filipinos with internet connection, must have posted valiant comments on youtube, that definitely caught the attention of everyone. Thus revealing the wrath of most Filipinos, when they feel even the slightest of insults. OR, maybe a group of Mexicans started this group, because they can't beat Manny Pacquiao... All I want to say is, a Filipino should be left alone. Because it doesn't matter if we are poor or rich...we are the happiest people on earth (survey)... and super talented! oh crap, there goes my pride..

Answer 4

First, yes, I think this title is potentially confusing. But not offensive. This specific question is based on a xanga chatroom blog. Pretty much anyone can set up their own little group, like "Fat Pinoys", or "Rich Filipino's". Sometimes a few join, sometimes many join. This particular group has a lot of Filipino's in it.

Now, while I'm not and will not be a member, I would like to express that I like the concept of this group. First, pride is one of the 7 deadly sins. Just as being fat, greedy, lazy, angry, envious, and lustful.

Second, most those who call themselves proud of their Filipino ways use this as an excuse not to improve or better themselves. I have a Uncle who's always talking about Pinoy pride and Pinoy ways, but he calls his sister in law Chinese. She's Filipino, born and raised in the Philippines, her parents born and raised in the Philippines too, and so forth back many generations. So sometimes Pinoy Pride is used as a way to fuel racism.

Not just my Uncle either, my friend is born in Manila and lived here her whole life. She graduated from college here from a Nursing program but can't take the PRC exam because she's not "Pinoy". So I think that concept behind Pinoy pride is detrimental to the benefit of the people of the Philippines.

I mean I've never heard of Spanish pride, or American pride, or Mexican pride. I have heard of patriotism, and honor, and respect, and those are they key words we should focus on here in the Philippines-- Not Pride!

Answer 5

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

Thumb me down all you like but the Philippines is like the picture of Dorian Gray, an offshoot of hell in which Filipino leaders have run the country.

Ironically, since Independence our country Philippines was run up to par with the moral and idealogical precepts of democracy, when it was the model of Asia in terms of its robust economy second only to Japan and enviable education system when foreigners came here to study.

That ended when Marcos came to power, and the slide toward decadence started. EDSA I and II were a mockery of revival and recovery. For it bred even more corrupt leaders unashamedly showing their faces on prime time television, who, like pots, always call the kettles black.

If our beloved country is really fine in shape, economically and democratically, why should there be a diaspora of our countrymen working abroad, leaving their families behind? And why haven't we been like Spain and America, our former colonial masters, which are orderly and mature?

Do you think we can progress as a nation? I doubt it. (Btw, we're always quick to jump on and feel ecstatic about Fil-ams doing great in other fields like Hollywood, etc. etc. when such celebrities don't even care to know where the Philippines is!)

Edit: Homegrown talents, of course, deserve kudos. I take my hat off to the redeemer, Charise Pempemco, who sang her way to the world stage with perfect aplomb. (Expect the politicians to get into the picture.)

Answer 6

I think the groups objectives is BX(@# T...

we need Nationalism and Patriotism, and having Filipino Pride is part of it. I also feel we do not have enough Filipino Pride.

What we need to get rid of is the YABANG, and upping the ante over another. Not our sense of nationalism and patriotism.

Answer 7

I think it is about not being too nationalistic, not too patriotic as a Filipino. An antithesis to what the nationalist propagandists are espousing. In a sense they are right because too much nationalism makes us blind to the fact that if we need to progress as a nation, we have to embrace other ideologies, other philosophies of other nations. That includes accepting non-traditional methods, of revising our systems and of being un-Filipino in our ways. We are laid back as a country because we continue to live in the past; we let our sentiments rule our better self, we let our pride in being a Filipino take the upperhand. We continue to defy the changes that are taking place around us because we cannot accept or allow strangers or foreigners to take part in building our nation. We are like a larva that has not yet metamorphosed into a butterfly.

Answer 8

no, i havent heard of it.

but i agree with bopols answer up there, the name for an organization is critical & their name leave something to be desired, if not something that gives a negative or derogatory connotation.

& i can see where they are coming from, but everybody should understand that every people on earth have the same issue, we shouldnt be too hard on ourselves as a race for having too much of a pride for anything filipino even if there is not that much to be proud of or if it is misplaced or something else all together.

im not saying that i would, but i can be somebody who could be enticed to join in this group but not with a name such as that.

Answer 9

I hailed from Baguio (now in long island) and every time summer got here an excellent form of folk from the decrease provinces got here to visit and we used to call them "mga taga-baba" (on the grounds that Baguio geographically is up in the mountains) coz a number of them are somewhat naive and a few communicate like they know Baguio in and out whilst they only know appropriate to the area the place they're staying at and the vacationer spots and popularl places like Aurora Hill, Quezon Hill etc. yet in spite of this, human beings from Manila and the provinces call us Igorots like additionally they know what which ability...others do it to degrade us coz some easily hate to be pronounced as that (And sure i'm an Igorot and happy with it!) they have the stereotypical theory that an Igorot is ignorant, ill-mannered and so on.

Answer 10

i guess anti filipino pride is just a group of people who are, of course, not proud to be filipinos and are ashamed of their heritage.
i know so many people in my school that they hide their identities and do not want to be classified as filipinos.
ultimately, i think, that it's just how they think of philippines whether they like it or not.
by the way, i am proud to be filipino, even though i am here in america.