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My son is in the choir at high school.They recently had their "holiday" program.I do not allow my children to take part in this program for religious reason's.Now the teacher has banned him from being in the choir.Go figure.....................

2007-12-19 10:51:38 · 18 answers · asked by don_steele54 6 in Politics & Government Law & Ethics

He was banned for not taking part in something that he was uncomfortable with.

2007-12-19 10:57:27 · update #1

18 answers

I am not sure in which states this kind of stuff is actually legal, but I do know it is happening all over. OUr rights are being taken away, wake up america. A friend of mine in Califor just had her child removed from school for the day, because she would not make him be in the Halloween celebration. IT happens a lot, whether it is legal or not. PPL need to call Jay Sekulow at Religious Liberty, he is on the internet, and report these situations. IF we just roll over and play dead, as we have been for years, then this will get worse and worse. WE have a muslim runing from president and many muslims and other false religions have been allowed the right to pray and speak at various govt functions, while our own govt is trying to remove anything to do with Christianity as not to offend.
Come on america, are you really listening?????
Its not about being republical or democrat, or anywhere in between> Does anyone ever read about the bilderbergers, the illumati and such things? This is all designed so long ago. I am a stron gChristian, but I dont celebrate Christmas as others do either, it is pagan. I do use this time as a time to tell everyoen all about Jesus and tell them what we are supposed to celebrate. His birth, life, death and resurrection for therein lie OUR BLESSED HOPE> GOd bless you again.

2007-12-19 12:15:15 · answer #1 · answered by full gospel shirley 6 · 7 2

Brother I do not think that this is legal at all. You may need to arrange a meeting with the teacher in order to help him or her to understand the reasons that you do not want your son participating in the choir at THIS particular time. The world's way and your way of being a part of the holiday is different with different emphasis. Making this kind of stand will have its consequences.. such is the world brother. But as far as your son's right to be a part of the choir all year round, I think that he should be able to carry out this activity. We each have a choice in this country.. where creed and religious preferences are regarded and respected. He is not breaking any rules and should not be punished for this.

I enjoyed singing in the school choir as a youngster. But when the worldly carnival (Trinidad and Tobago's big festival)aspect of it was engaged in I withdrew because of the Lord's speaking, Name, and Testimony. This was the Lord's way to keep my being sanctified as a young believer. These ones may or may not understand your view point but its worth trying for the sake of your son's going on in the choir.

May the Lord make a way for you and your son. Our prayers are with you brother Don.

YOur sister
sandy

2007-12-20 09:04:58 · answer #2 · answered by Broken Alabaster Flask 6 · 1 1

This doesn't sound right at all so if I were I were you I would immediately get on the phone and make an appointment to consult with an attorney about this matter because it sounds an awful lot to me like your son was discriminated against and if you allow the School to get away with it then your son might grow up feeling it's OK for others to treat him this way and he will always feel he doesn't have the right to defend himself if he's being discriminated against by anyone else.

But if you take a stand and fight for your son then he will grow up thinking that this is the right avenue to take when he's being treated unfairly and when he's grown he won't allow anyone else to do it to him because you wouldn't let the School get away with it when this happened.

I would take a stand for my son because he's important enough to fight for and that's how I want him to feel about himself when he's grown.

And it will teach the School a lesson, they seem to think that they are above it all when in reality they work for you because your taxes pay their wages.
Good luck and God bless.

2007-12-19 22:09:41 · answer #3 · answered by Adelaide B 5 · 0 0

I think the children should be able to make their own decisions. When you say you do not allow them it takes away their right to choose. I personally think the decision to take the Christ out of the Christmas season is absurd. I don't have an objection to others and their religious choices...just don't tell me I can't say Merry Christmas. All the people complaining and saying it isn't PC to say anything but Happy Holidays need to get a grip. It's about choices and I don't want someone elses choice forcing a change in how I celebrate the CHRISTmas season. If your son wants to participate in the choir fine...but he can't pick and choose what programs he will do. They need to be able to count on the performers being there.

2007-12-19 19:10:25 · answer #4 · answered by Otto 7 · 3 2

i think that is ridiculous, he is a part of that choir, they should not ban him from participating in future events just because this one time , he chose to sit out for personal reasons. i can't say if it's legal or not, but i can say that it's not right. and he is probably better off just leaving that particular choir all together, to find a more understanding one.

2007-12-19 21:16:07 · answer #5 · answered by ? 7 · 0 0

No it's not Legal nor is it Right, But on the other hand ask your Child what do they think is the right thing to do. Remember that might be right for you but your child must Learn too, With tottal understanding Brother I hear you But give your Child the Chance.

The are only a child once look back in time and see your self,
But if it's in a demonic since my answer is No, But if not Pray,
But you still must give your Child the =Chance.

2007-12-19 20:36:29 · answer #6 · answered by masterdk888p 2 · 0 0

I would take this before the Principal for sure. And if that does not work go to the Superintendent or get a lawyer.
If for religious reasons he does not want to participate he should be allowed not to have to. See what a lawyer says after talking to the Principal.

2007-12-19 21:50:40 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

First, speak with your son and get his side of the story
2nd, speak with your son's teacher and get his/her side of the story.
If there has been some prejudice involved, then speak with the Principal. See if something can be worked out - perhaps a meeting of all parties would work the best, and get your son reinstated back into the program (if he was not at fault).

No need to punish anyone. Just need to get to the root of what transpired, and try to wind up with a Win-Win scenario for all involved.

121907 6:06/9

2007-12-19 19:06:43 · answer #8 · answered by YRofTexas 6 · 1 1

It seems to me that most of a choirs activities would center around different holidays throughout the year, some of which are bound to be religious. I think they are justified.

Maybe you could let him decide what he wants to do?

2007-12-19 19:00:19 · answer #9 · answered by marie 7 · 1 0

I have sung in choirs since I was seven years old, both in public schools and in church.

Choirs began in the churches and the development of choral music is directly linked to the patronage of churches over the centuries.

Most of the great masterworks composed for choirs by the likes of Mozart and Bach are based on liturgical texts. But choirs sing them today, and people pay to hear them, in concert halls, not churches. Today's listeners understand these works are as important musically as a symphony and appreciate the musicality, even if they do not subscribe to the beliefs of Christian theology.

One of my finest instructors was Jewish. For four years of high school, I sang in his choir and we performed "traditional" choral pieces as well as lighter holiday fare. He taught us the history behind the work and taught us the meaning of "music appreciation".

Many schools today avoid the traditional works because of parents who have instilled in their children that any knowledge of Christian cultural history should be avoided. Last week, I heard a high school group perform for 25 minutes, singing "Winter Wonderland", "Santa Clause is Coming to Town" and other innocuous standards of the season.

If you object to even these offerings, you are rejecting hundreds of years of musical tradition and depriving your child and family of the joy that performing in a choir can bring.

A choir member needs to be committed to the choir and to the other members who rely on him to be there and carry his part. Since your son cannot do that, the teacher is right to exclude him.

2007-12-20 02:41:33 · answer #10 · answered by raichasays 7 · 3 0

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