According to the Bible Jesus would not debate with drunken leaders. Now go and sleep it off
2007-12-19 05:42:50
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answer #1
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answered by E J 3
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I partly agree with Yaoi, this isn't really a philosophical question. You should have asked it in "Religion & Spirituality" or "History."
Here's a more philosophical question for you. Can you formulate a question so untenable, even you couldn't ask it? Since you are just making up details to ask this one, how could I not think of you this way?
Out of curiosity, do you think the Bible says Thomas touched Jesus' wounds? Have you actually read a reputable translation of the Bible?
If you had kept civil, I would've been more likely to do the same. I know, it isn't most people's idea of "turning the other cheek," but I'm not most people. Correcting someone's folly isn't wrong. Even if I am wrong, I'll be forgiven.
Isaiah prophesied that the Messiah would be "pierced through" for our salvation, and "numbered with the transgressors." The Psalmist (David, according to my Bible) foretold that the Savior would be pierced in His hands and feet and would not have any broken bones. Most scholars believe that Zechariah was predicting that the Christ would be pierced in his side, but I have found this to be rather generous.
John is the only one of the Gospels to mention Jesus being stabbed. The phrasing is very clear: "...He was already dead, they did not break his legs. Instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus' side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water." This is from the NIV, but literal translations bear out the basics (already dead, spear, blood and water).
The soldier was minding his own business. According to the text, they were sent to take down the bodies out of respect for the Sabbath. It would make sense that they'd want to make sure those who had been crucified were dead first, not much of a "death sentence" without the "death" part.
It really wouldn't have made a difference if the stab wound had finished Jesus off. The point of the Old Testament prophesies regarding the way the Messiah was to be sacrificed was just that He would suffer and die in a manner consistent with animal sacrifices made under the Law of Moses. Not having any broken bones was the important part of the whole stabbing incident.
You sound so angry about this. It isn't like someone just insulted your belief system. Oh wait, I did. Oh well, what comes around, goes around.
2007-12-19 10:25:57
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answered by ? 3
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No, he died on the cross because of the crucifixion. If you read it correctly, you will see that the best way the soldiers had at the time to check whether someone was actually dead or not was to stab them and see if the blood came out seperate (cells seperate from the liquid) or as a whole. If the blood ran normally, it meant the person was still alive. However, in Jesus' case, the blood ran seperate, denoting that he was already dead when they stabbed him.
It wasn't that they wanted to kill him that way, they just wanted to check if he was dead or simply passed out. Turns out he was dead, and you're wrong, and I've gotten around it.
Smooches!
2007-12-19 05:42:47
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answered by Anonymous
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You assume that you know better than the Bible, and that proves your hubris and Hell-bound destination. But to humor you for a second, what -exactly- do you imagine the process of crucifixion to involve? Is a sword thrust so different from a bunch of nails? Your argument is rather like saying 'the gas tank on your car exploded when it hit the wall, so therefore you weren't in a car'.
2007-12-20 09:40:57
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answered by Hate Boy! 5
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Actually it was a spear, not a sword. And he was already dead on the cross, the Roman soldier was "just making sure"
It was prophecied that this would happen, the old testament said none of his bones would be broken, which was the usual way of speeding up the death on a roman cross. . .
And when they came to break his bones... well, he was already dead, a roman soldier stuck a spear in his side (also prophesied in the old testament, I believe) just to test if he was really dead, because blood begins to separate when someone dies.
2007-12-19 05:43:41
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answered by oddball.2002 3
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What is in the bible is the recapitulation of the genuine accounts of what happened in Jesus`lifetime(Nw Testament). Jesus was charged of blasphemy and he was sentenced to death by crucifixion. He died instantly after 7th last words, and his body was taken to a tomb.
The neext day Pilate had a meeting with guards and ordered them to check on Jesus`body, to make sure he wasn`t alive because `Jesus was a liar`to them. The guard went to check on the body of Jesus, only to find out the body is gone.
Even then, Jesus had foreseen what is going to happen to him(last supper) and how he is going to die(by crucifixion).
I would like to know what version of the bible are you reading.
2007-12-19 05:53:05
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answered by oscar c 5
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each and every of the verses you pronounced approximately Jesus being hung from a tree are mistranslated. additionally word that there are Gospel (Mathew, Mark, John, Luke) verses that help that Jesus grow to be crucified on a go. Crucifixion is finished by way of a go. no longer a tree. additionally be attentive to that crosses are made from wood. to declare that Jesus grow to be hung from a tree, to purposely use mistranslated verses to instruct a faux theory and to declare that the Gospels are actually not the finished fact is sacrilege and heresy and project to excommunication.
2016-11-04 01:24:38
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answered by jetter 4
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I don't recall reading where Jesus was supposed to die by crucifixion - can you point me in the right direction?
2007-12-19 05:40:45
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answered by Prophet 1102 7
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You know, these questions have nothing to do with philosophy. They have to do with historical facts, which are still in dispute. Go ask the historians.
2007-12-19 06:36:48
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answered by Anonymous
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