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I'm confused.

Also, I'm wondering..
Do you think Romney has ever met any black Americans in person?

:)

2007-12-17 12:32:46 · 12 answers · asked by roostershine 4 in Politics & Government Politics

I think it was about Mormons officially letting black christians in a few years ago (did they?) and Romney said hr heard it on the car radio and stopped his car to cry (I'm totally not joking, this is basically what he was saying).

Now, of course, I'm trying to assume he's happy to hear it/sad and emotional about things his church doesn't handle well quickly sometimes..

But Romney really confuses me about a lot of crap. Like Al Gore doing a robot performance about some danm thing about lockboxes or something.

Only with Gore at least I start to fall asleep listening, because Gore at least isn't trying to tweak out on polishing up on Religion for vote.

This is a guy who doesn't have the guts to talk about what he's once said and thought about gay people and the military because it's not as conveinient as it was for him before.

Romney, the "I'll be whatever you want me to be" top noch success-maker guy.

:)
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2007-12-17 13:49:13 · update #1

Yeah, I was thinking that too, I'm tempted to think he's not racist, or a long time ago knew he didn't want to be.

But danm,.. What a freak!?
That dude just ain't quite right.

I don't think he has a rounded sense of humor about himself, for one thing.

He probably takes himself too seriously and spends too much of his time with rich people to understand America has more substance than a marvelous painting on a wall.

Good managing skills though.

2007-12-17 14:04:32 · update #2

"He said he was.. gratitude".
That one makes sense to me. He still creeps me out for public leadership.

I was aware the second part I asked was absurd when I wrote it, but decided not too absurd to ask. I need to ask that cause I want to know what people think of HIM, how we percieve him. Not just technical stuff.

2007-12-17 14:17:13 · update #3

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You have obviously not met very many LDS people. We cry at the drop of a hat for any joyous reason. Feeling the Spirit, graduation, weddings, baby showers, baby blessings, baptisms, family gettogethers, etc.

Example: Rulon Gardner crying like a baby on the Tonight Show after he won the Gold Medal because Jay had arranged for his home town to yell hello on the show. If you saw that episode, Leno was totally shocked and cut to commercial because he didn't know what to do.

We are taught from a very early age that there is nothing to be ashamed of in crying. That often, our tears are the Spirit testifying something to us personally, and by trying to hide our tears, we are denying the gift we have recieved and will not recieve it so readily in the future. Thus, most adult members of the LDS faith that were raised in it are not ashamed to let their tears be seen by others, as you saw with Romney on Meet the Press.

On to the issue of blacks in the LDS church. The revelation in 1978 was to allow black men in the church to hold the priesthood. They could already be members and be baptized before this. But the issue was the cause of a lot of contention in the church. When this revelation was given, those members of the church that had been hoping for this revelation truly broke down and wept with joy for their black brethren.

I was born in 1978, so did not witness this. But growing up around LDS people in Florida, California, N. Dakota and Maryland, I know of many that profess the shedding of tears when the revelation was revealed to the members.

On to my views about Romney. I like him and, at this point, will vote for him in the primaries. I will vote for whichever Republican wins the primaries in the general election in November. I find Romney to be fairly straightforward and agree with his policies more than any of the other candidates.

2007-12-17 15:11:32 · answer #1 · answered by Raising6Ducklings! 6 · 1 1

His father was Governor of Michigan, a State with a large black population. He was an early advocate of civil rights legislation in the 1960s. At that time more Republicans voted for civil rights than Democrats. The LDS Church officially endorsed civil rights in 1963. You can be sure than the Romney family were more than acquainted with a number of African Americans.

By the way do you have any idea when the Southern Baptists officially renounced slavery and racial superiority?

2007-12-18 01:34:12 · answer #2 · answered by Isolde 7 · 1 0

Yes, I do Isolde. The Southern Baptist religion was started because the Baptists of the North would not support slavery. The Church was not founded on account of being Christ's Church, but in its belief that the Bible supported slavery. The Southern Baptists did not officially renounced slavery and racial superiority until June 20, 1995.

I heard that Mike Huckabee was a Southern Baptist preacher. Is this true?

2007-12-18 02:40:57 · answer #3 · answered by Braden A 2 · 2 0

I am in agreement with Ken Jennings', who's two-page opinion piece appeared in the newspaper's "Be Our Guest" section Wednesday at www.nydailynews.com/opinions.

Jennings became something of a national celebrity in 2004 after winning a record $2.52 million during his long-running stint on the popular game show. He went on to author a book.

In the opinion piece, Jennings said he's tired of seeing Latter-day Saints portrayed as "either a gullible joke or a satanic menace (or, if you can stand the cognitive dissonance, both)" in light of publicity surrounding Republican Mitt Romney's presidential quest.

"This is a strange season to be a Mormon," Jennings begins. "During my lifetime, I thought The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints had effectively mainstreamed itself. Being a Mormon was like being Canadian, or a vegetarian, or a unicyclist — it made you a bit of a conversation piece at dinner, but you didn't come in for any lip-curling scorn."

You can read the whole article at the newspaper website. I think if people were saying these types of things about any other relgion, race, or group they would be called bigots.

2007-12-23 23:53:52 · answer #4 · answered by Sweet n Sour 7 · 0 0

Romney grew up in Michagin. I would venture to guess that he saw some african americans there.

His father was one of the few prominent republicans he opposed Goldwater in the 1964 elections because of Goldwater's vote against the Civil rights act of 1964 and general opposition to civil rights progress. His father is also said to have marched with MLK.

The announcement to extend the priesthood to all worthy males was an event that moved many members of the church to tears.

Why the constant cynicism?

2007-12-18 08:28:17 · answer #5 · answered by whapingmon 4 · 1 0

He said he was crying with gratitude when the prohibition against blacks in the church was officially lifted. Who knows if it is true. But that is what he said. Many white people are very pro-integration, so it is possible that it made him very happy. Who knows, but that is what he said.
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Your second question is absurd.
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Chi - The airheads parents were obviously against the integration. But that is not the official position of the church. It will take a generation or two for all the old school to die off.

2007-12-17 20:44:23 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 2

Black folks comprise less than 1% of Mormon Church members in America, so if Romney has met any... they probably weren't Mormon.

2007-12-17 20:37:01 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 3

Ole boy said that he was driving in his car in 1978 or 79 when the Mormon church decided to let black people join his church. When they announced that decision on the radio, that's when he started crying. I myself think he's full of crap.

2007-12-17 20:45:12 · answer #8 · answered by PinkBrain 4 · 2 4

Romney has probably met black people, I don't think he is a racist. But the position his church had on blacks and the priesthood definetely was.

2007-12-17 21:03:49 · answer #9 · answered by cynical 7 · 1 3

It is too bad that his church is so racist. I dated a former Mormon who said she would be afraid to take me to Utah to meet her parents. She also happen to be a former Miss Utah.

2007-12-17 20:40:06 · answer #10 · answered by Chi Guy 5 · 2 4

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