During the horrible practice of slavery, black people were considered chattel?

Question

Nothing more then personal property that they could do with or dispose of however they felt.
Does todays liberal consider the fetus in the womb as chattel..personal property that they can do with or dispose of however they like?

gra8ful...so do you consider a fetus as YOUR property to do with as you please??....you tried to insult me, yet you never really answered the question...here is another chance...do you consider a fetus...chattel?...

Bigjon55...ok...I'm with you on most of what you said...but you didn't answer the question...do libs consider the unborn fetus as property that they can do with or dispose of however they like??.....

This is a simple yes or no answer people...

Nostradamus...obscure? good try twisting the question into something not related to the question. I didn't ask who traded the slaves, or who captured the slaves...I'm simply saying that BOTH the slave AND the fetus are HUMAN!!....BOTH are/have been looked at as something less then human and disposible by certain people....I'm simply asking, does todays lib consider a fetus as personal property like the former slaves were and subject to whatever the owner wants??...or is a fetus, like black people, like ALL people something to protect, value and respect??....simple question, and not one lib has answered it so far.

Leslie...God loves that fetus just as much as He loves you...that precious baby has a purpose, just like God has a purpose for you..seek Him.

Steve T.....well aren't WE just the smarty pants.

Mayflower...When you are talking about the murder of a human being then I'm sorry, it becomes political AND religious..I understand where you are coming from, and I do want government out of the homes as much as possible..unless that home is not a safe home for those children...thats when government needs to step in...I no more can condone destroying a fetus then I can destroying a 5yr old child, or giving that right for a parent to destroy that 5yr old child..both are defensless...I DO know people who have made the decision to have an abortion. I don't condemn them..as a matter of fact in most cases I feel for them because I'm sure deep down inside they grieve for that child that will haunt them for the rest of their lives.

Answer 1

Very good point.
During the time of slavery, when people spoke out against its use, the DixieCrats (yup, them Democrats were slave masters...and it looks like they are doing it again, just without the color) claimed that "the right to privacy is a higher order than the right to life." And now, when the Republicans took them to war and stomped them...it because clear that the Right to life was a higher order than privacy. So, in this instance, we have the Democrats again claiming that the right to privacy ( the goings on of a persons body exceeds the jurisdiction and control of the state) is a higher order than the right to life.
What has caused this so much of a legal headache is the legal entanglements that the ACLU and other Communist Community Groups conduct in order to obscure the central crux to the argument: "When is life?" They cloud this issue as much as they can in order to prevent a clearly defined point to be established, which would cause yet another defeat for them under this platform.
Similarly though, it is not an alien concept for the Left to engage in such wanton slaughter. As the premise to the left's political idealism, the people require a large, overweight government. Under this government, it becomes easier for the government to increase its scope and control into the day-to-day lives of the people...essentially growing to become a Totalitarianism. Under such a construct, the State is all there is and is the supreme magistrate over the land. Like with communism, it was paramount to the survival of the state that religion and the family be wiped out...in order to be replaced by the State as the soverign power in the individual's life. This was executed by dividing families through trumped up conspiracy charges and pitting everyone against each other through fear of death in order to salvage only themselves at the expense of family and friends. If we are all trying to save ourselves and are seeing our fellow countrymen as enemies, than we won't unite against the State. This is how Stalinism was masterfully carried out....and its trying to make an appearence here in the US.
The Left wants to devalue human life by removing any and all forms of religion out of the public arena and by destroying the unborn in an attempt to dellude the masses as to when life occurs. Then, to destroy the family, but forcing the introduction of gay marriage and by the development of tax-exempt organizations that advocate there to be no place in the home for the father. Now they want to increase their foothold by attacking religious centers and by stripping them of their tax code status's if they make the mere mention of politics in their sermons.
You bring up a good question...especially as it portrays itself to the bigger picture!

Answer 2

It is so asinine that the libs can't make the simple connection in your point. They obviously feel that an unborn child is less than human and has no rights just as slave owners did. There is no difference in the treatment. They don't give the fetus the opportunity to grow or make choices out of fear that they may have to be responsible for their actions or just due to their own inconvenience.

And enough with this crap that it is the woman's body and she has the right to choose. Two things on that. 1) She did have the right to choose... she could have made the choice not to have unprotected sex or sex at all. (of course things get more complicated in the case of rape or incest.) 2) Since when did a fetus become part of a woman's anatomy? Do they all just automatically grow them on a regular basis as part of their internal organs? A fetus IS NOT part of a woman's body. It is it's own individual being. If you give the argument that it would not exist were it not for the woman... well, it wouldn't exist were it not for the man either... therefore the man should have equal rights in all decisions pertaining to the fetus.

Leslie... News Flash here... A BABY can not sustain life once born without a mothers milk or something comparable. It can not survive without someone to care for it. Nor can a person with severe mental disabilities. You know... these dang kids and mentally retarded people sure are a drain on a mother so I guess she should just have the right to "off" those parasites until they become fully independent huh? At what point do they become human and gain the basic right to live?

Answer 3

First of all MANY if not MOST slaves sent to the USA from Africa were sold into slavery by OTHER BLACKS. Yes they were often sold at ship by white traders, but were sold to them by OTHER BLACKS. Since slavery was in use in the Caribbean for a hundred to two hundred years before the USA was first populated by Europeans, many of the slaves in the USA originate from the Caribbean NOT Africa. Christianity at its core, not necessarily as practiced, is inclusive and comforting and provides a sense of community, just what most people are looking for in a religion. Yes most other major religions, also share similar core ethos, but given the demographics of the USA, they are in the minority, and thus provide a smaller community and thus less inclusion. I think "crying" for people to change from a religion that works for them to meet YOUR perceptions is just petty. Let's all just try to move forward.

Answer 4

What is amazing to me is how the libs go right to the attack...their brain is not capable of grasping the analogy of how the slave was looked on as, and how todays pro abortion lib feels about a fetus....deep down they know, but they can't allow that to ever be exposed because that would expose the rot that is in them.

Answer 5

My children are my property! They can be their own person when they pay their own bills. They have and do as I allow them.
Slavery & abortion is nothing of the same anything. Abortion is a personal decision not a political one nor a religious one.
If you knew a good friend who had an abortion would you end that friendship?

Answer 6

Yes, in those days the blacks and in some cases whites were also considered as chattel and utilised or disposed of at the owners' pleasure. Somehow I have the feeling that they were still better off compared with those starving in Africa and living in total misery today.

Answer 7

Mr Crank>What gives a woman sovereign property right of her baby? The Bible teaches that people are the property of GOD, not mankind. To take a human life is murder, and that is what abortion is. Humankind does not have the sovereign right to decide who lives and who dies, that is Gods decision. But good job trying to play God!

Our right to protect life comes from God, not the govt. It is God that gives all govt's power and authority, not mankind.

Answer 8

That is an excellent point. You can do what you want with black people or the unborn when you consider them less than human.

Either we all have the right to life, or none of us do. It is a short jump from killing the unborn, to killing the disabled, the old useless eaters, or any other undesirable. People need to wake up and see that abortion is a threat to all of us.

Answer 9

Well a fetus or zygote could not live without the womb therefore it is more like a parasite taking energy from the mother. If a fetus was a baby it would be called a baby.
what does your question say about adoption then is'nt trading babies for money equal to slavery?

Answer 10

Today's liberals consider the fetus and all decisions relating to be the private discretion of the woman who's body it is. Liberals consider a woman's right to soverignty over her own body to be more important than the government's right to intrude.

Pro-life people devalue that soverignty in favor of government control of women and their decisions. If Pro-life people really wanted to prevent abortions they would promote birth control. The fact that they don't promote birth control is proof that they are more interested in control than "saving lives".