What's your answer and why? And do you think he'll get voted in during your lifetime or his own, both or neither?
2007-12-13 13:31:29 · 18 answers · asked by Opal 6 in Sports ➔ Baseball
Every time this question gets asked, there are 10 morons that say yes.
Then you have the people that KNOW baseball that say no.
HE BET ON BASEBALL. It makes no difference what role he was in when he bet.
Geeeeez, get a clue people.
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2007-12-13 15:14:18 · answer #1 · answered by Kris 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
No.
Dammit, stop asking this. What's next, a Rose Cult camp in the backwoods of Guyana? Bring the industrial strength kool-aid.
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Mitch, don't willfully be such a tool.
Rose is ineligible for the Hall. This is not because of his playing statistics -- without the special circumstances of his own making, yes, he'd have been minted to a plaque years ago. But his stats don't exonerate him, and Player Pete is indivisible from Manager Pete and from Gamblin' Rose as well. The Hall honors a PERSON, not a role or a job.
Rose did not make a mistake. He, repeatedly and with full knowledge of the potential consequences, made a willful (albeit stupid) decision to break MLB Rule 21(e), in such a way that he could suffer permanent (not "lifetime") ineligibility. And so he does today.
It is not a question of morality or character (unless we factor in the blatant stupidity and/or monumental arrogance involved). It is a question -- clearly answered -- of rule-breaking. Rose broke the rule. Rose agreed to the punishment. And that's where Rose is today.
The Bonds comparison is not particularly germane, but it is worth noting that Rose also has federal indictment (and conviction!) and tax evasion on his permanent record.
And, not to put too fine a point on it, but someone in total disgrace has no standing to be accorded the sport's highest individual honor, and it takes some seriously deep cognitive dissonance to think otherwise.
2007-12-13 14:01:56 · answer #2 · answered by Chipmaker Authentic 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Pete Rose will never be invited into the Baseball Hall of Fame, nor should he. He gambled on his own team while he was the MANAGER of that team - doesn't matter that he bet on them to win all the time (or so he says, but since he's a liar and a cheat, how can you believe anything he says?). There is a strict rule in baseball about gambling - Rose was around long enough to know it by heart. If he did know it and gambled anyway, he thought he was above the sport. If he didn't know it, he was just plain stupid.
2007-12-14 08:41:13 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
All right to all those who say Pete Rose doesn't deserve to be in the hall of fame listen up. Pete Rose is with out a doubt one of the hardest working players the game has ever seen. In every game he ever played in he gave 110%. he had 4,256 hits, 1,314 RBI's, 198 stolen bases, and a career batting average of .303. If that is not HOF stats I don't know what is. Now i realize he broke the rules, but he did so as a manager. If you want ot keep him out of the HOF as a manager I have no problem with that but to punish him as a player is completely wrong. Wether he broke the rules as a manager or not he deserves to be in the HOF. He IS one of the greatest players ever to play the game and deserves to be in the HOF as much as anyone else. Also there is no way you can convince me that Barry Bonds, with all his steroid use, federal indictment, and tax evasion, deserves to be in the HOF more than Pete Rose.
2007-12-13 14:08:55 · answer #4 · answered by mitchgreen5 1 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Look, the Hall of Fame is NOT, I repeat NOT only about the way the player performed on the field! It also takes into account his off the field persona. Rose is a liar, a cheat, and pretty much just a terrible person during the years he managed the Reds. He used players, and friends to get what he wanted, and lied time after time after time! You need to be respected on AND off the field to be considered a Hall of Famer! He'll never get in...
2007-12-13 13:39:10 · answer #5 · answered by J 1 · 1⤊ 2⤋
I would have to say no.He cheated while in a baseball uniform.No matter how great he might have been he still cheated.
Joe Jackson was a great hitter and still no proof to this day that he took any money to throw games not to mention he had the highest Batting avg in the World Series then also but he is not in the hall due to being ban for life because they say he cheated
2007-12-13 14:28:33 · answer #6 · answered by james p 3 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Well if any of these steroid users get in he deserves to get in because he disrespected the game of baseball just like these guys did. At least he didn't cheat to get into the hall like Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens. If these guys get in I think that he should get in or there better be a good reason way not.
2007-12-13 14:48:50 · answer #7 · answered by Eaglesfan19 3 · 1⤊ 1⤋
Well the Hall of Fame is based on what you did in the field not outside.
He put up great numbers and he was mr october, so why not. He was the symbol of baseball, he made a lot of dumb choices but he isn't the only one. Michael Jordan gambled and he is definately going to the Hall of Fame, so Mr October should too. I'm not saying his gambling should be accepted but he should be rewarded for his actions on the baseball field. If barry bonds and his steriod induced body gets into the Hall, why can't Mr October???
2007-12-13 13:40:35 · answer #8 · answered by slickkittykattwhopurs 6 · 1⤊ 3⤋
He deserves to be in the Hall of Fame as a player, not a manager. What he accomplished as a player will never be topped. He was a manager when he got caught gambling.
I don't think he'll ever get voted in, which is a shame.
2007-12-13 13:41:08 · answer #9 · answered by ? 5 · 1⤊ 3⤋
"I bet on my team to win every night because I love my team...I made a big mistake. It's my fault, It's nobody's else's fault..."
Pete Rose - March 14, 2007
Pete Rose SHOULD be in the Hall of fame but will have to wait until Baseball gets a new Commish.
he is the all-time major-league leader in
hits (4,256), games played (3,562), at bats (14,053)
He won:
three World Series rings , three batting titles , one Most Valuable Player Award , two Gold Gloves , the Rookie of the Year Award, made 17 All-Star appearances
betting on baseball didn't help him accomplish any of this but, HOF rule 5 says......
Voting shall be based upon the player's record, playing ability, integrity, sportsmanship, character, and contributions to the team(s) on which the player played.
yet the very unlikeable Ty Cobb, the drinking and womanizing Babe Ruth, the umpire abusing John McGraw, the racist Cap Anson, cheaters like Gaylord Perry, the gambling Leo Durocher are all in. MLB should be honest with itself and delete the character and integrity requirements of Rule 5.
2007-12-13 13:42:13 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 4⤋