David Ortiz & Manny Ramirez's were not in Mitchell list. Can I trust this despite Mitchell's tie to Red Sox??

Question

I am a bit surprised to see Ortiz's name was not in the list. But maybe true.

Answer 1

That doesn't mean Ortiz or Manny didn't take steroids.

The report got most of its meaningful information through Kirk Radomski, a former Met trainer, Brian McNamee, Clemens' former trainer, and a few others. A player was only going to get named if they were somehow connected to these two guys.

There are likely dozens more big-name players out there who have taken steroids, but the sources either couldn't be tracked down, or they wouldn't cooperate.

Answer 2

Very hard to tell, because the evidence that came out was based upon people who were talking to avoid jail time. MLB really didn't fully cooperate with the investigation in part because of the labor union. So far they are innocent because of lack of proof, but the fact is this is just the tip of the ice burg and it is hard to say if the players knew HGH was such a performance enhancer. When HGH first came out a lot of people involved in the supplement industry that were using and encouraging its use for the average person, some have taken it at first until they knew about its performance enhancing effects, but that would not have excused people from taking it since it was put on the books as a banned substance in sports.
I was a bit surprised at the number of Yankees and that some organizations had none, which made me wonder as well. I was a little surprised by Ortiz not being on the list, but Ortiz was never small and always was presumed to have power; it's not like he was small and became gigantic overnight.
The sad part is we will never know who was legit and who wasn't. I'd like to think that people that were great and did not make the list be credited for what they did with their natural ability, like Ken Griffey Jr. who was one person who I'd be surprised if he took any performance enhancers, because he was good as an 19 year old outfielder and never bulked up to a great size.

Answer 3

Ortiz isn't someone I would have thought would be on there, but you never know, and I was very happy to see it wasn't. But the shape that he is in kind of was an indication that he wasn't; or if he was, it doesn't work for everyone. Manny I don't think needs to take it. He has such a rigid workout schedule, and he tends to take a personal break of his own towards the end of the year, which gives his body the break it needs to continue at his high producing level.

Answer 4

No don't trust him.


When Ortiz played for the Twins, he looked like a fat man trapped inside a thong. After getting to Boston, he looked like a fat man exploding from a thong.

I don't use tho whole, one player looks a certain way, to accuse him of usage. My take on Ortiz is because of many other facts such as nagging injuries, heart problems, vice versa.

Answer 5

There's too many eyes on this to worry about anyone's affiliations with any team. He led this investigation, but it's not like he wrote every word of the report, or performed all of the research. Far from that, I'm sure. There's no reason to question the legitimacy of what is in the report, or NOT in the report. He names Eric Gagne, and also implies that Theo Epstein had knowledge of Gagne's steroid use prior to signing Gagne in 2007. He also named several past Redsox players in his report. I doin't know how much YOU'VE read of this report, but I downloaded it from ESPN.com and have read quite a bit of it. He did NOT pull any punches for the Redsox organization. Try reading the report before you make implications as to the legitimacy of it. All you've done now is throw away all of your credibility in regards to this topic.

And for the record, David Ortiz looks like the least likely candidate in the world to be using steroids.

Answer 6

Seeing as everybody is assuming that players are on steroids due to their size, and both Ortiz, and Manny are certainly big enough to qualify, I don't see how they can be over looked. Isn't it funny how Redsox fans can tell by looking at someone if they're on steroids, but for their players, suddenly, they need to fail a test?

Answer 7

The two guys who named most of the players were from the Mets and Yankees so it is understandable that a lot of New York players were listed. This does not mean that there weren't players from other teams who did steroids, just that they had nobody to narc on them.

Answer 8

the mitchell report is what it is. it is a comprehensive report on the nature of PED's in baseball. it doesnt name all PED users in baseball nor does it claim to. the names that came out came out as a result of compiling the report. it is not, nor was it intended to be a witch hunt list of PED abusers.

you can trust or believe whatever you want, but if you care about baseball and this report, i suggest you read it carefully. all people care about is these few names mentioned and that has very little to do with this report. it is what it is.....

Answer 9

Lots of players left out. David ortiz is a steroid user if you go by stats. Notice how his homers are going down last year. Also where are the brewer players? I am surprised Steve Finley, Brett Boone, Luis Gonzalez, and more were left out.

Answer 10

I think Mitchell is honest, but looked away from Boston and didn't dig deep there. Also he spoke to the guy who spplied it and the supplier mainly dealt with Americacns, if you noticed.