OK the Jews say Jerusalem is ours over 2000 years (before Christ)?

Question

ok we know thats true till the romans took over
now my question is what about the people that lived in jerusalem before they even got thier arnt thoes the actual palestinians beeing tortured threw the last 60 years .

Answer 1

i see a a lot r just saying rubbish
the Palestinians r all farmers or at least 85% of them
till the terrorist jews came took over the land how can they farm it if they get shot getting close to it we had 3 pcs of land near a settalment that was tookin a way from us just because they can . where is justice .....
and know this adam i'm pretty sure most of u know it we will get it back sooner or later one way or another .. u know its in ur book u will have a state twice & it will be distroyed twice as gog promissed the jews u sant run away from it it is ur distany

Answer 2

Firstly, no Palestinians are being 'tortured' in or by Israel. They are living in far worse refugee camps in Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt!

The Jews have lived in Israel for over 3000 years continuously. The region was called 'Judea' but when the Romans conquered it, they renamed it 'Palestina' after the Philistines, to try and sever the link between the Jews and the land.

The actual term 'Palestinians' referred always to Jews, Arabs and Christians. As for the 'Palestinian people' that you hear about today, they were not even a distinct group until 1967 when literally overnight, Arafat declared them a 'people'.

Bear in mind that Jews lived in Jerusalem before Islam was actually an organised religion.

Answer 3

The Palestinian Muslims are the common population of the land. Mitochondrial DNA has tested their cost on this land for a minimum of 30,000 years. DNA reports, principally the CMH (Cohanim modal haplotype J1m267 and J1C3) has tested once more that the Palestinians have been the occupiers of Canaan which grew to be Israel and Judea. This haplotype originated in Yemen in which seventy six% of the Yemenese deliver the J1m267 haplotype and sixty seven% deliver the J1C3 haplotype. The Hebrews have been Arabs who participated within the incense exchange founded round 4000 BCE. These Arabs settled alongside their exchange routes and based the Mesopotamian Akkadian, Assyrian and Babylonian Empires. In the Levant, they founded the Kingdoms of Tyre, Sidon, Canaan, Israel and Judea. They additionally founded the Aramean empire that dominated what's now Syria and whose capitol was once Damascus. In North Africa they founded Carthage. These Arabs gave to the West their devout ideals, rituals, legislation, govt, exchange practices, agriculture, horticulture, animal husbandry, procedures of meals maintenance, irrigation, writing, the alphabet, urbanization, exertions institution, financial procedures plus the entire innovations that went with those social traits because the wheel, the plough, the stylus, bricks, mortar, structure, boat layout and constructing, city making plans, the loom, the water wheel, astronomy, astrology, arithmetic pharmacy, surgical procedure, zoology and botany to say a few of their achievements. The occupiers of European descent who presently occupy the field don't seem to be descended from those common population. Their DNA demonstrates an European and Asian beginning for those humans.

Answer 4

you implicitly raise the question of how we decide who gets to make the laws.

In ancient times, David slew Goliath and thus, by agreed contest of champions, the Israelites took possession of the land and Jerusalem. [There was a city there when they arrived.]

This was still the way of making law when the Romans forced the Hebrews out about 1930 years ago.

And it was still the accepted way when the Kingdom of Jerusalem was formed about 1000 years ago and then overthrown by Saladin and his forces some decades later.

So the weight of history says that military force trumps all the hand wringing in the world and the Palestinians are out of luck.


Interestingly, Hamas would probably say the same thing since their policy is to conquer Israel and evict the Hebrews. [I'm being polite here to not shock younger readers.]

Answer 5

No. Then as now, the palestinians aren't even a nationality. The Jews went there and yes they were eventually conquered by the Romans, but the Romans even let them keep the Jewish King. Palestinians have always been a roaming band. They have "refugee" camps all over the middle east.

Answer 6

I'm not interested in what happened 2000 years ago. The Jews took an old ruin of a walled town that was falling apart and built a clean, modern city out of it. This, in the middle of a new, modern, industrialized country that they also built where once there was mostly rocks and dust. So I'm not interested in the Romans or the Greeks - it's ours now, we bought that land, we fought for that land, and we built it.

Answer 7

That's a good argument Stephen, but the thing is that there are Arabs being displaced by Zionist settlements as we speak, it's not necessarily one of history's injustices yet.
If the Jews were the first to build Mr. Peanut, what was all that talk about the walls of Jericho?

Answer 8

I'm pretty sure the Jews were the first to build anything there. I think they were also the first farmers in that area.

Answer 9

More than 90 percent of the Jews are not authentic Jews, instead they are converts to the religion.

White Jews are not decendants of Abraham.

Answer 10

First please site prove of torture.
Second the Jews live there now, they are not leaving, we will not let Muslims kill them, learn to deal with reality.